Annotating my copy of good omens for the themes I think the finale steamrolled/forgot (free will, kindness, ineffability, and human nature)
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Annotating my copy of good omens for the themes I think the finale steamrolled/forgot (free will, kindness, ineffability, and human nature)
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actually heres something that helped further cope with the ending for me (still heartbroken)
i bought the graphic novel online a bit after seeing the ending and read it and 1. its SO GOOD i truly enjoyed every bit of it and the art is *chefs kiss*
but it made me realise why i liked good omens. its for how crowley and aziraphale are placed in the world
theyre just guys that got unlucky and are now dealing with armageddon by themselves. they took it in their own hands to save the world and succeeded in doing so (tho adam played a big role in that too ofc)
I don't care what anyone says. That S3 ending was NOT canon! It can't be because it doesn't even make any sense! And also, stories that make everything before the ending pointless are just bad stories! Period!
I just want to go back to the S1 days. Really, I do! I feel like ever since S2, things have not been the same with the fandom. I'm not saying it's become horribly toxic or anything, but I just don't feel the awesome vibes of the S1 fandom anymore. Also, I'm salty because I feel like people don't engage as much these days either. Which makes sense. S3 is probably deterring lots of people from continuing with GO/joining the fandom in the first place. People also had to survive the S2 kiss, which COMPLETELY changed the types of fanfic people wrote to a genre I just don't personally care about. And then, ofc, we had... those events around NG.
I still write fanfiction and such, but I'll be honest, the spark just isn't there as much anymore. And the lack of engagement doesn't help either. I don't want to abandon GO, but I really would like to find something else to get into on the side.
I get what you mean. I do *kind* of accept that its canon but i really just see it as its own universe. I dont fully connect the events between the book, s1 and s2 and 3. I see the book and the first series more as its own thing, while s2 and 3 are a less-canon (and NG-lead. i dont want to speak abt him bc hes an ass and he imo ruined a lot of what was good omens) continuation to the story that once was. Thats why i engaged so well in the book/graphic novel, it just helps me stay in the happy universe where things didnt go wrong *again*
Well, I mean, parallel universes are theoretically possible. Therefore, we probably just saw one of the worst universes? I guess it helps that I write as a hobby, so I kind of imagine alternative universes anyway. I do canon, canon-divergence, and AUs of various kinds.
Sorry for bringing him up. I tried being vague. I'm just saying that other people involved with GO may have had different ideas for how it should end. For instance, TP's ending for a sequel was probably going to be different. Other people who understand the essence of his work could also write an ending, in theory.
We could have just stopped at a S1. However, if someone wants to write a different sequel/canon and turn it into a non-fanfiction media, I'm certainly not going to stop them! Hint hint HINT!
Today's vent:
The more I think about it the more I realise the the only thing the tv show had going for it plotwise that the other adaptations didn't is canon aziracrow
Right, right. There were some perks to the show. DT and MS, canon AziCrow, S1 and S2 having great cinematography, etc. But that's just another thing that makes S3 so hatable! It's wasted potential! Why make a pairing canon if you're going to throw it in the trash? GO had a reputation for making people feel good. Why go against the audience like that?
I miss the S1 days. I don't like S3 at all. Even if you don't accept it as canon, there are still lots of people who do, and the ones who are especially devastated probably left the fandom. In other words, I feel like I can't engage with this fandom the same way I could during the S1 era. People are too focused on human AUs and fix-its now.
Is there some other fresh media I could get into? Similar to the vibes of GO S1? It's not that I hate GO or anything. I just think I need to wait for things to calm down a bit because I'm starting to get bored.

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actually heres something that helped further cope with the ending for me (still heartbroken)
i bought the graphic novel online a bit after seeing the ending and read it and 1. its SO GOOD i truly enjoyed every bit of it and the art is *chefs kiss*
but it made me realise why i liked good omens. its for how crowley and aziraphale are placed in the world
theyre just guys that got unlucky and are now dealing with armageddon by themselves. they took it in their own hands to save the world and succeeded in doing so (tho adam played a big role in that too ofc)
I don't care what anyone says. That S3 ending was NOT canon! It can't be because it doesn't even make any sense! And also, stories that make everything before the ending pointless are just bad stories! Period!
I just want to go back to the S1 days. Really, I do! I feel like ever since S2, things have not been the same with the fandom. I'm not saying it's become horribly toxic or anything, but I just don't feel the awesome vibes of the S1 fandom anymore. Also, I'm salty because I feel like people don't engage as much these days either. Which makes sense. S3 is probably deterring lots of people from continuing with GO/joining the fandom in the first place. People also had to survive the S2 kiss, which COMPLETELY changed the types of fanfic people wrote to a genre I just don't personally care about. And then, ofc, we had... those events around NG.
I still write fanfiction and such, but I'll be honest, the spark just isn't there as much anymore. And the lack of engagement doesn't help either. I don't want to abandon GO, but I really would like to find something else to get into on the side.
So a friend and I were talking about GO the other day and tbf we might be completely off here (so don't take this too srsly), but we came up with a theory:
Which husband you identify with might (at least partly) depend on your main trauma response(s).
Crowley: fight, and especially flight
Aziraphale: freeze, and especially fawn
Hmm, interesting! There could be something to this.
I mean, I feel like I could have done all four at some point, but I relate more to Crowley than I do to Aziraphale. I grew up with two siblings who ended up getting diagnosed with severe mental health conditions. However, they don't do anything to manage them, and my parents weren't good about noticing the issues with them either. I was a kid, so I couldn't know better. Anyway, since it was always my fault when they bullied me, they learned that it's okay to hurt others. They're cool enough to get away with it. So they don't have empathy, and I don't talk to them anymore. I've told others a few of the things they've done, and people look SO SHOCKED AND DISGUSTED. Because this was FAR from normal sibling bullying! Also, I've come to learn that my cPTSD is apparently very obvious to others. I've had other people's service dogs leave them to guard ME. I am not joking when I say that growing up in my family was literal torture. It was all of the abuses!
It doesn't help either that my parents, mostly my mom, seemed to have an agenda against me. Ofc, I got to be autistic on top of putting up with a volatile home life, so I'd get bullied at school as well. And it was very easy for my parents to use every tiny thing that annoyed them about me and say, "This is why people bully you. They're actually trying to defend themselves against you."
I avoid people most of the time as an adult. I will literally spend lots of days alone in a room by myself. And it's not out of fear. I've learned not to fear people a long time ago... but I do just naturally default to disliking others unless I get to know them really well. I've learned to start standing up for myself against my family and have said some nasty things back to them (they cry because I guess they don't like it when you throw the same energy back). Other people who have fucked with me outside of the family have also sometimes gotten theirs. For instance, there was this one girl in college who wouldn't leave me alone and was CLEARLY unstable and dangerous. I ended up doing so much emotional damage to her that she left that college after one semester because I am so fucking DONE with people like that!
I don't just do shit like that with anyone. I only do this if people refuse to respect my boundaries and such. In my household, I had to learn to fight back or live a life of misery. But also, keep to yourself because it's a lot less drama that way. I handled retail like a champ. Nothing the customers said or did could hurt me. I even ended up getting bonuses and promotions. I now work an admin job. As much as I like the sciences, and am starting to get close to having a degree in science, I'm also finding that I like the social sciences as well. I like learning about how people work. And yes, I suppose that's another way I've learned to arm myself.
I've known a lot of people who are like Aziraphale. I guess their families got them to be more polite and have freeze and fawn responses. These people seem to do alright socially... but I wouldn't exactly say they're anyone's priority. I feel like they end up befriending people with questionable morals, or those who simply don't have their shit together. People they probably SHOULDN'T be friends with because they're just getting used! Sometimes, they even end up enabling bad behaviors in others because "They don't want to be mean!" Maybe I just don't understand too well how these extreme people-pleasing behaviors come about because I never had them much personally and got rid of any of those tendencies pretty quickly. Maybe it's because my family was so extreme and uncivilized. But it does get a little annoying to watch a people-pleaser struggle morally over ditching an obviously toxic friend. One who has done terrible things right in front of them. You can explain why so-and-so is no good and how they're just using them, and they still get stuck in a freeze response over it. Well, again, I might be biased because it's not hard to see that bad people exist when your own siblings are so rotten that they sometimes straight up tell you that they like it when horrible things happen to you and that they hope you will die. So, I don't exactly stick around to see the good in others when they've done something despicable. I just instantly stop caring for them without a second thought. It's actually incredibly important to learn to do this, especially when you're dating, because there are a lot of bad actors out there. And a bad marriage can literally ruin your life.
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Also “there is no way for us to be together and happy in this universe” is a bleak as fuck message to give to a queer audience.
Yeah! It's really not a cool message! Here's the thing: it's simply not easy for some queer people to find relationships in the first place. We have a much smaller dating pool than straight people do, and because we are so stigmatized, a lot of people who are attracted to the same sex simply won't unpack that, or sometimes don't seem to notice that they aren't straight. So, yeah. I'm probably not alone in the sense that I will probably not find love in this lifetime. I am only attracted to very particular gender expressions (androgyny, feminine men, and women). Guess what? Those are not people who are commonly attracted to me and available. Attraction can already be lopsided and difficult with a large dating pool. I suffer a common curse where only the types I am absolutely NOT attracted to are interested in me (only men who are trying too hard to be masculine and who want to always be in charge are interested in me, and that controlling, wannabe macho, dominating type literally makes me nauseated).
So, you know. One would hope that if two gay people found each other and got on quite well, they'd end up together forever! I mean, Good Omens is a fictional story. It was SUPPOSED to be a story about love and optimism! So, naturally, a demon and an angel could end up being together happily forever!
AziCrow used to be, and should have been, an inspiration for queer people to be themselves! It was supposed to teach straight, cis people that other kinds of love are valid! Instead, season three confirmed that I will probably not find the kind of lover that I want because the universe is literally against it (and, I mean, it does feel that way irl). Not that I consider it canon, but the reminder from a straight guy who hates women still fucking sucks! Basically, it feels like he's saying, "Ha! I still win! I can be with whoever I want and don't even have to be decent about it because it's more socially acceptable! But you guys? You can't have anything! Not even if you do everything right!"
Rewatching GO3 and it really feels wrong to me that Aziraphale just leaves Brian Cameron to his heart attack and then even later judges that he wouldn't deserve to survive it. You mean the same angel that gifted his flaming sword to the original sinners so they wouldn't get cold outside of Eden?
I can see why people probably enjoyed the scene with the crossword puzzle, but it did kind of also remind me of those stories I read on the internet when I was 12 where someone's OC and their love interest do something really cool and outstanding because they are the main characters, and the the comically evil guy they are up against, who is ridiculously cruel to one of the OCs, get brutally punished after they beat him. Like... sometimes the antagonist would just die in a gruesome way or something.
It doesn't help that Crowley is super edgy and depressed in this season. Straight up not functional and makes very bad decisions for plot reasons. Aziraphale is weirdly not noticing how miserable he is, but is also weirdly forgiving about the mess that was left behind, which has a very strange explanation behind it. But it's okay. Crowley is attractive, and Aziraphale just remembered that, so they're dating again. Aziraphale will now do anything for Crowley. Even die for him-
I've gone too far!

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remember how Terry Pratchett used to write little New Year's resolutions for Aziraphale?? does anyone have these?? 😭
I didn't know this was a thing, but now I'm curious!
keep waiting for the finale to drop 😭😭😭😭
when my cat died, i held him and pet him and gave him little kisses on the forehead and told him he was the best boy and i loved him
when crowley and aziraphale died they maintained a respectable distance from one another before the lord
It's always bothered me how... averse they seem to be about physical affection throughout the series. Like... even if one interprets them as aroace or queer platonic, wouldn't there still be some more physical affection between them? I know queer platonic people irl who hug each other, carry each other, play fight, etc.
The lack of physical affection in this series reminds me of an ex I had. I was their first same-sex relationship. Idk if they had more. The point is, things became more awkward the longer we dated. I felt like I was dating a straight person who was dared to be gay or something. Hand holding and cuddling were awkward. We never kissed. Neither of us claimed to be ace, and they had kissed the opposite sex in the past. I asked why we hadn't kissed yet when we'd been together over a year. Never got a straight answer that made sense. And then they started talking about having an open relationship where we invite someone into our "romance" from the opposite sex.
Needless to say, my AziCrow are ALL OVER each other! Crowley has one bad day in my fic and gets loved on by Aziraphale. Crowley is a clingy snek who is always by Aziraphale's side. Do I still feel undesirable because of that relationship? Yes! Yes, I do! Did the finale help? NOOOOO! That's why I write this self-indulgent fanfiction!
I'm feeling now like...every storm has a silver lining, and historically nothing produces a bigger boom of fandom works then creators doing a major fucking cock-up.
It really is so over, we really are so back.
I also see it as permission for someone else to pick up the series and do a spin-off or new canon for it. I would have been perfectly fine with just season 1, but now I feel like someone HAS to remake everything past S1! Or just do a different story post S1 altogether.
Okay so with there being no actual evidence this specific ending was planned by Terry Pratchett (known freak and liar Neil Gaiman just saying shit doesn’t count)—with a Pratchett biographer saying TP and NG never actually sat down and wrote anything for a sequel plot, pointing out that the TP estate has no writing credits for the finale, suggesting executive producer Rob Wilkins disliked the finale, and saying he believed the cottage ending was planned by Pratchett but NOT for them to be different people, plus the finale literally erasing the entire book and rendering it pointless, everyone dying contradicting attitudes from Pratchett himself about reversing deaths in gomens, and David Tennant outright saying the ending wasn’t everything he wanted, I think we can all disregard that finale as bad fan fiction and stick to the canonical ending of the book/s1 instead lol. I’ve been saying this for a couple weeks now, but it helps that it seems like everyone involved but Gaiman hated this

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2023 me: Oh...well the worst case scenario was the 'Turning Human' ending, which if that is the worst then like that's not so bad, I don't like but at least they're together...right?
2026 me:
2023 me: ...right?
2026 me: ....
2023 me: ...you're uh...you're scaring me a bit...
2026 me: go back to writing your fic.
Gonna say it again... there's just NO WAY to write something that's worse than everyone's worst case scenario by accident. Not by cutting the runtime down, not by hiring shit writers to do so, not even by writers being unfamiliar with the story or not giving a single fuck about it. This had to be deliberate.
And you are under no obligation to respect or accept what they've created.
Agreed. I think NG did this on purpose. And I don't think it was just because he was "chased out" of the fandom. I think he just wanted to make people miserable for no reason because that's just the kind of guy he is. And why do people think I'm weird for pointing out that some people have sadistic dominance tendencies when there is concrete evidence that said individuals have these tendencies? I've studied lots of abnormal psychology BECAUSE I've had people like NG in my life! Some people literally get a kick out of causing chaos for NO REASON!
Personal pet peeve: When someone who's done years of therapy and takes lots of meds acts like they're better than you.
I've done... a little therapy. But I self-reflect a lot and question many things that have happened in my life. I do actually take things sometimes to help manage anxiety. And for the most part, I am a functional member of society... just not when I'm around people with unresolved issues who take them out on me.
I've met people who constantly talk about therapy and meds like they're personality traits. And... they're still dysfunctional individuals. They still have mad respect for people who hurt and use them. They act like I'm toxic when I call it out. They take their issues out on me. They still have an extreme avoidance toward putting in actual work in small things that will help them out in the long run (i.e. they will avoid adult responsibilities and such).
Therapy and meds are good. But they are POINTLESS if you don't actually put in the work to MAKE them effective! The therapist gives you homework. You're supposed to do that homework! Also... why do these people always take it out on some random woman in their life who is just being neutral around them but has traumas themselves? And then... practically worship people who aren't good for them? People who feed into depression spirals and such? People with anger management issues who get mad over the stupidest shit? I know, ancient wounds, ancient patterns. I try to point it out, and they get defensive. But then... I am repeating an ancient pattern myself by being the scapegoat who "holds everything together while taking everyone's shit." I'm getting better about dropping these people like hot potatoes. It's gotten to the point where only forced proximity makes me HARDLY tolerate them... if at all. But I just instantly distrust them.
I've met other people who seemed perfectly fine as individuals, and found out later they were going to therapy and taking meds. They just... don't make it their personality. They're responsible and aren't afraid to do the hard work that healing requires.
So, sorry to inform you, but taking meds and going to therapy isn't some badge of honor that INSTANTLY guarantees that you're a good, well-adjusted individual. Someone who doesn't do as much therapy and doesn't take meds isn't instantly worse off than you. They could have still done more work on their mental health than you did. In fact, I've had therapists praise me for some of the things I've done to cope with trauma! Even if the coping mechanisms weren't always perfect, they never entered into something that was horribly unhealthy, and they eventually got managed. Emotional intelligence is important.