Endless Cartoon Brainrot

You'd think given their propensity for getting under each others skin there would've been a jab about it thrown out by Raven at some point, but no.

There is an argument that for all their sniping at each other the twins have certain lines and topics for the other that they simply won't cross. Which is fair, but you would think that rule would only apply in direct conversation with each other. Raven doesn't even bring it up when trying to convince Yang to stay.

The easiest explanation for why Raven never makes jabs at Qrows semblance is, in my mind, that she doesn't see it as a negative thing.

No, not opposing authority, opposing totalitarianism.

For example...the UK encouraging its citizens to suffer.

Why am I using this as an example?

Because in V7, Ironwood wanted to make Mantle go through suffering “for the greater good,” RWBY and co opposed the suffering of Mantle.

And we’re supposed to support the totalitarians on this who make the poor and sick suffer?

If the authorities in power are cruel to its people that it is supposed to care for?

Then the people have a right to oppose the decision of said authorities.

But Robyn doesn't know about the Amity project, not until Yang and Blake decide to tell her. All she knows is that the paranoid man in control of the military and the huntsman academy, who has been taking increasingly authoritarian control of her city, has a secret project out on the tundra and almost nobody knows what it is, and those that do are refusing to talk to her.

"Her actions stop a project that we all know to be a positive one for the entire world of remnant. What we have here is Robyn opposing authority to no actual positive effect gained,"

Yep, Robyn was opposing something that would have benefitted the world... because she didn't know what it was, it was depriving her people of resources with no explanation, and she was constantly given reasons to distrust the person in charge of it.

Wow... its almost like Ironwood's paranoia and secrecy was unecessarily making enemies out of people who could've been a big help. Almost like that's a character flaw of his. Almost like "choising to trust others" is a major theme of the volume or something.

No, not opposing authority, opposing totalitarianism.

For example...the UK encouraging its citizens to suffer.

Why am I using this as an example?

Because in V7, Ironwood wanted to make Mantle go through suffering “for the greater good,” RWBY and co opposed the suffering of Mantle.

And we’re supposed to support the totalitarians on this who make the poor and sick suffer?

If the authorities in power are cruel to its people that it is supposed to care for?

Then the people have a right to oppose the decision of said authorities.

But Robyn doesn't know about the Amity project, not until Yang and Blake decide to tell her. All she knows is that the paranoid man in control of the military and the huntsman academy, who has been taking increasingly authoritarian control of her city, has a secret project out on the tundra and almost nobody knows what it is, and those that do are refusing to talk to her.

"Her actions stop a project that we all know to be a positive one for the entire world of remnant. What we have here is Robyn opposing authority to no actual positive effect gained,"

Yep, Robyn was opposing something that would have benefitted the world... because she didn't know what it was, it was depriving her people of resources with no explanation, and she was constantly given reasons to distrust the person in charge of it.

Wow... its almost like Ironwood's paranoia and secrecy was unecessarily making enemies out of people who could've been a big help. Almost like that's a character flaw of his. Almost like "choising to trust others" is a major theme of the volume or something.

And Robyn even said during Election Night that if she won, she’d  have to work alongside Ironwood.

Ironwood doesn’t work alongside anyone, he simply gives orders and expects people to follow them.

Robyn is the one who is willing to compromise.

Willing to compromise Atlas security and Penny's free will by working with Watts.

Willing to compromise on allowing Mantle to get torn apart by the grimm rather than just blowing it up himself.

Truly he was making compromises left and right, while Ruby and Robyn were being totally unreasonable by not compromising at all on their stance of...

*checks notes*

No, not opposing authority, opposing totalitarianism.

For example...the UK encouraging its citizens to suffer.

Why am I using this as an example?

Because in V7, Ironwood wanted to make Mantle go through suffering “for the greater good,” RWBY and co opposed the suffering of Mantle.

And we’re supposed to support the totalitarians on this who make the poor and sick suffer?

If the authorities in power are cruel to its people that it is supposed to care for?

Then the people have a right to oppose the decision of said authorities.

But Robyn doesn't know about the Amity project, not until Yang and Blake decide to tell her. All she knows is that the paranoid man in control of the military and the huntsman academy, who has been taking increasingly authoritarian control of her city, has a secret project out on the tundra and almost nobody knows what it is, and those that do are refusing to talk to her.

"Her actions stop a project that we all know to be a positive one for the entire world of remnant. What we have here is Robyn opposing authority to no actual positive effect gained,"

Yep, Robyn was opposing something that would have benefitted the world... because she didn't know what it was, it was depriving her people of resources with no explanation, and she was constantly given reasons to distrust the person in charge of it.

Wow... its almost like Ironwood's paranoia and secrecy was unecessarily making enemies out of people who could've been a big help. Almost like that's a character flaw of his. Almost like "choising to trust others" is a major theme of the volume or something.

okay but this is actually another interesting part of "who the heck was the spring maiden" and where the lack of her name really starts to stand out.

i think we can safely assume that people like qrow and lionheart would have known the spring maiden before she left, right? qrow especially, since he knew amber and fria.

yet, when they see vernal, the presumed spring maiden, there's no reaction from them; no familiarity, no questions on why she changed her name; and in an event that vernal didn't resemble the spring maiden at all, no mention of how the powers have changed host and they're now dealing with a spring maiden they don't know.

so, in my mind, there are two options:

vernal was the perfect decoy and resembled the previous spring maiden so much that no one questioned the name change—or the spring maiden's name was vernal and the vernal we knew decided to add identity theft on top of all the other crimes that come by default with banditry. it wouldn't explain the lack of familiarity, but that could be chalked up to time and place... OR

qrow and lionheart never actually met the spring maiden and simply presumed that vernal must have been her based on what they did know about her... which admittedly doesn't sound like was much, but it also does raise a question where and from whom they got that information from (most likely ozpin, but you never know)

this is why the lack of name and raven never mentioning the time frame starts making things a bit suspicious, because frankly, can we even say that these people are talking about the same spring maiden? there have been many spring maidens over the years, so some identification would be nice!!

for all we know, they're talking about two different spring maidens and we're all just assuming it's one and the same.

qrow wouldn't even know that? he wasn't there when raven claimed she wanted qrow dead, and she certainly did not tell him at haven either

raven didn't even actually want qrow dead. if he was going to be such a big problem for knowing about the spring maiden, raven had plenty of opportunities to get rid of him after higanbana... ya know, like that time he was dying of poison

qrow doesn't exactly have the highest of high horses here; he was planning on attacking the tribe to get the spring maiden, and considering he was trying to recruit huntsmen and huntresses for the task, it didn't exactly sound like they were going to ask nicely—which on its own is pretty damning because based on what they knew, the spring maiden had ran away to get away from them, and here they were, planning to take her back by what sounds like force

the very first thing qrow did when he found out raven was there at haven was to shoot at her, and raven was offended he didn't do it properly.

In fact I fully believe every member of team strq has tried to kill at least one other team member at some point (because they are both individually and collectively disasters).

But this time Raven's throwing of Qrow under the bus also put Ruby and Yang (and the rest of his kids, but I don't think he's willing to admit that) in danger.

And true to form Qrow seems to care far more about them being put in danger than himself. Hence his statement "you've crossed a line".

Its definitely something they can move past, especially if Raven ends up helping get the kids out of the ever after. But I think the twins are too stubborn to just move past it without outside help.

What is the Theme of RWBY?

Now I just have to stay up until... 4:30am.

Ice Queendom sucks, I can't believe they ruined Monty's vision like this.

He's lying.