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âDonât compare your beginning to someone elseâs middle.â
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A small mystery in the Norwegian language is which preposition you are supposed to use when it comes to place names.
You can live in - i - [name of town], but you can also live on - pĂĽ - [name of another town], and it is often impossible to guess even for a Norwegian, which to use where, without having been told. And, you also risk offending the locals if you use the wrong one.
There are no grammatical rules that decide which to use, and this is of course where it gets complicated.
Sometimes you can make correct guesses based on the name of the town, since - for instance - Kongsberg means âKingâs Mountainâ and you live on a mountain, and Arendal means âEagle Valleyâ, and you live in a valley. Simple logic.
But, unless you actually know it is called to live or stay on the town of - say - Lillehammer, whose etymological roots arenât all that obvious any more, you have no way to make such a guess.
While you can avoid offending the locals simply by asking, it becomes logical first when you learn that Lillehammer - like so many of our towns and villages do - started out as a farm centuries upon centuries ago, and farms are something you live on. Also simple logic.
But etymology and logic do not always help. There are towns that started out as farms, but for which you use in, like Søgne, for instance. And we also have towns that started out as - and named after - some topographic or natural formation or feature where it would be natural to use in, like a valley or a forest, e.g. Oppdal or Finnskogen, but about which we actually use on.
In this episode of the Norwegian radio-show SprĂĽkteigen - a weekly show on Norwegian words and expressions - you can hear some explanations of some of the irregularities found in the use of prepositions in front of place names.
For advanced learners. And for Norwegians without a clue. OBS! Dialects will be heard.
Why would using the wrong preposition be offending??
I think âiâ is the most common preposition before place names so Iâd say itâs mostly the locals in the âpĂĽâ-places, in the âspecial snowflakeâ places if you will (iâm just kidding), that get offended because (and this is pure speculation on my part) 1) theyâre so tired of correcting everyone or 2) theyâre proud of being in the âpĂĽâ minority, so being mislabeled is offending because it associates them with the lowly âiâ places lol. But no I donât know, I donât think itâs necessarily offensive, but rather it might be annoying to some.
My impression is that it is more about tradition and a sense of identity. The act of practicing something that directly relates to the very birth of the place you belong to, creates a connection to that place in both time and space, to your very roots. Itâs almost a sacred act making sure visitors get to know that. Your home-place becomes almost a sort of extension of you. There are many people in pĂĽ-places (I donât have the statistics, but are they really a minority?) who count their ancestry from that very first farm the place has grown from.
Ok, yeah, I can see that. Honestly everything I said was pure speculation and guesswork. I donât have statistics on that either, I was just assuming because the place names I know are mostly âiâ-places. And I donât have very strong ties to the place I come from either, so maybe thatâs why I canât see that easily why people would get offended by something like misuse of prepositions.
No worries! Iâm from Trøndelag where there are a huge amount of pĂĽ-places - Orkanger, BerkĂĽk, Spongdal, Roan, Oppdal, Støren, Stjørdalshalsen, Brekstad, Namsos, KyrksĂŚterøra, BotngĂĽrd, Levanger, Steinkjer, Kolvereid, Verdalsøra, Grong, Lauvsnes, Dun, Sistranda, Høylandet, Straumen, Leknes, Ă rnset, Malm, SnĂĽsa, Hommelvik⌠Off the top of my head I can only recall two places that are i-places - Trondheim and Soknedal! Wait, maybe I can think of another couple if I try⌠Selbu! And⌠Børsa? Haha! Iâm not sure!
EDIT: Look what I found!
From here.
Preposisjoner ved stedsnavn
Mange er usikre pü i og pü foran stedsnavn nür de skal fortelle om noe som foregür eller befinner seg pü det aktuelle stedet. Her er tradisjonen slik at foran de fleste norske stedsnavn, ogsü navn pü byer og tettsteder, brukes i, men foran en del slike navn er pü den tradisjonelle preposisjonen. Man bør merke seg at der stedsnavnet ogsü er kommunenavn, kan det vÌre riktig ü velge i nür man sikter til kommunen, sjøl om det er tradisjon for pü foran by-eller tettstednavnet. Et par eksempler: Den som er i Heddal i Telemark, er i Notodden (kommunen), men ikke pü Notodden (i bysentret). Folk fra Hamar vil gjerne si at de bor pü Hamar nür de mener bysentret, men i Hamarnür de mener kommunen. Nedenfor finner du lister med eksempler pü bruk av preposisjoner ved stedsnavn.
Vi anbefaler i foran disse norske stedsnavnene:
Askvoll, Austevoll, Balestrand, Brunlanes, Bud, Børsa, Etne, Førde, Grue, Gudvangen, Hammerfest (før: pĂĽ), Helgeroa, Hokksund, Hol, Hole, Hov, Hurum (men pĂĽ Hurumlandet), Hvittingfoss, Kirkenes (før: pĂĽ), KlĂŚbu, Krokstadelva, Land, Lom, Moss (før: pĂĽ), MĂĽløy, Namsos, Nes (i Hallingdal, i Akershus), Onsøy, Portør, Rennebu, Rosendal, RĂŚlingen, Salhus, Selbu, SkjĂĽk, Skrova, Solbergelva, Steigen, Tromsø (før: pĂĽ), Vadsø (før: pĂĽ), Vardø (før: pĂĽ), VĂĽgĂĽ, Ăystese, Ă mot (i Telemark)
Vi anbefaler pĂĽ foran disse navnene:
Agder (om kysten â men i Aust-Agder, Vest-Agder), Akkerhaugen, Alstahaug, Andenes, Askim, Bagn, Bardufoss, BerkĂĽk, Billingstad, Biri, Bjørkelangen, Bokn, Bryne, Byrkjelo, Bømlo, Dalen (i Telemark), Dokka, DombĂĽs, Dovre, Dønna, Eidsvoll, Eina, Elverum, Evenes (om kirkestedet og flyplassen), Evje, Fagernes, Fannrem, Fauske, Fedje, Figgjo, Finnsnes, Finse, Fitjar, Flesland, Flisa, Fokstua, Fosen, Frosta, Frøya, Geilo, Giske, Gjøvik, Gol, Gran, GreĂĽker, Grip, Grua, Grue Finnskog, Gvarv, Hadeland, Hamar, Halsa, Haram, Hareid, Hedmarken (men i Hedmark), Helgeland, Hermansverk, Hinna, Hitra, Hovden, Hvaler, Hønefoss, Jessheim, Jevnaker, JĂŚren, Jørpeland, Kløfta, Kolbotn, Kongsberg, Kongsvinger, Koppang, KrĂĽkerøy, Kvikne, KyrksĂŚterøra, KĂĽrstø, Lade, LaksevĂĽg, Leira, Lena, Lesja, Levanger, Lillehammer, Lillestrøm, Lindesnes, LindĂĽs, Lisleby, Lista, Lunner, Lørenskog, Madla, Melhus, MerĂĽker, Minnesund, Mo (i Rana), Modum, Moi, Molde (ogsĂĽ i), Momarken, Mongstad, Moster, Mysen, Møre, Namdalseid, Nes (i Hedmark, i Ă dal i Buskerud), Nesbyen, Nesna, Nesodden, Nordfjordeid, Nordkapp, Nordmøre, Notodden, NĂŚrbø, Oppdal, OppegĂĽrd, Orkanger, Os, Otta, Randaberg, Raufoss, Rauland, Rena, Ringebu, Ringerike, Ringsaker, Rjukan, Roa, Rognan, Romerike, Runde, Rygge, Røros, Røst, Sandane, Sandnes, Sel, Selje, Skarnes, Ski, Skjetten, Slemmestad, Smøla, SnĂĽsa, Sokna, Sola, Sollihøgda, Sortland, Sotra, Spikkestad, Spitsbergen, Stabekk, Stad, Stange, Steinkjer, Stokmarknes, Stord, Stranda, Strømmen, Støren, Sula, Sunndalsøra, Sunnmøre, Svalbard, SĂŚtre, Time, Tingvoll, Tjøme, Tofte, Tolga, Toten, Tranby, Tretten, TrĂŚna, Tune, Tynset, Tysnes, Ulefoss, Ustaoset, Utsira, Utstein, Varhaug, Vega, Vennesla, Vestfossen, Vestnes, Vigra, Vigrestad, Vinstra, Voss, VĂŚrnes, Ărje, Ărlandet, Ă l, Ă lgĂĽrd, Ă mot (i Buskerud), Ă ndalsnes, Ă rdalstangen, Ă rnes, Ă s
So, pĂĽ seems to be way more common.
Iâm confused because the quote says âHer er tradisjonen slik at foran de fleste norske stedsnavn, ogsĂĽ navn pĂĽ byer og tettsteder, brukes i, men foran en del slike navn er pĂĽ den tradisjonelle preposisjonen.â but the lists indicate something else, which I think is because it focuses on places that arenât necessarily municipalities (big cities like Oslo, Stavanger, Bergen, Trondheim, Drammen, Tønsberg are for example not mentioned).
Something I found (from here) basically says that using âiâ is the rule of thumb for most places, but that some place names take âpĂĽâ (especially when talking about islands, mountains etc.), although itâs hard to be completely sure because there are so many exceptions.
Anyway, letâs not make it a âcompetitionâ for which is more common, because we donât know for sure, and end this on the note that asking locals is the best way to go about the problem when you go to a new place!
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Wow, interesting!
My master thesis will be a critical discourse analysis of the latest governative rapport about languages in Norway and how it creates an unbalanced ideological representation of the country (or something like that, I still have to send my final project proposal)
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