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No matter how many versions of this story I read it's never going to fail to make me wet

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"Gaddafi's abortion bunker" is the name of my new punk band
I'm about halfway through this book (made it to the other side of the picture section)
It's actually not as awful as I thought it was going to be. The author is a little hard to take because it's painfully obvious he has that deeply ingrained subconscious belief that Americans deserve to run the world with Britain and Israel's help and everyone else should just deal with it.
However, there's a good level of detail about incidents and events that most writers never get into, most authors are like "so that happened" whereas this guy actually goes into what led up to it and why and how it happened not just "it happened." Maybe he was some kind of political analyst dude. Caveat, I caught a few minor factual errors around events I'm super-familiar with, so that makes me unsure how accurate he is in the things I'm less familiar with, so I'm reading with caution.
Another funny thing is he keeps accidentally making Gaddafi sound even more based than I thought he was. 😅
What was with the abortion bunker thing Gaddafi had?
😂 sensationalist propaganda created by his Western enemies. France in particular.
There might have been some actual medical clinic underground, or not, but the weird backstory about what it was used for and why is propaganda dreamed up by a French writer in late 2011 or 2012 and then parroted and added to by other Western info-tainment agencies.
My guess is that the motive for France attacking Libya to begin with had to do with Gaddafi's plan to unite Africa as a new superpower- which would make it near impossible for France to regain its old colonies and plunder Africa's resources like it used to.
America and the UK also hated Libya/Gaddafi for eroding their power and control over Africa.
So they concocted this false story and continue spreading it in hopes that people would fall for it and think "well, he was a terrible person, so after all it's not that bad that the imperialists killed him"
Remember when Little Talks was on the radio all the time? Things were better then. Have we tried putting Little Talks back on the radio 18 times a day to see if that fixes things
I guess...? 🤷♀️

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They complained about Muammar laughing/giggling a lot? That seems like an odd compliment lol
"laughing for no reason" as a symptom of mental illness. But you watch his interviews there's always a reason. They may not like the reason or may not understand the reason, but there's definitely a reason.
I need a calendar of Gaddafi like those cheesy firemen ones, especially since he liked to lounge around like a cat on silk rugs and pillows
oohhh yes, assemble a dream team of photographers - Lochon, Kewley, Chauvel, I want Ellen Von Unwerth involved too even though she never got to photograph him irl that I know of
In what ways was Safia considered 'odd'?
Specific examples (they don't always give one) were that she giggled a lot for no reason (something they also complain about with Muammar) and that she was very reclusive and private, didn't like to be in public (of course it's a matter of opinion whether that's "odd" or not - also some dispute over whether that was her idea or Muammar's wish that she stay out of public. I personally think it was hers)
I've also heard weird criticisms from the rats of "she is just as weird as her husband, the whole family is weird" but I don't know if I would take them seriously
I could be wrong but I think Gaddafi also had those weird world leader contract marriages where you have to have the ideal family dynamic ie; wife, kids , picket house fence and all that in order to be a good leader. “The people love strong family values”
Like how most leaders in the west are married to women that aren’t even attracted to them or they aren’t even attracted to (some aren’t even heterosexual but you can’t have that no no)
He didn’t despise her or anything and he took care of their kids and all that but it’s something he had to do/ commit to for an image.
Right, and then there are additional layers of Libyan/Arab specific cultural things contributing to it.
Daad Sharab (part of Gaddafi's team) mentioned in her memoir that she always thought Muammar and Safia were an odd match and seemed to have nothing in common. She elaborated that she suspected he married her as a reward for saving his life in the hospital. (Not just the appendicitis, Safia may have discovered someone was planning to kill him or stage a coup while he was in the hospital and she warned him about it.) Daad pointed out that Gaddafi had a habit of doing drastic things like this to thank people for helping him. I'm sure that wasn't the only reason, but it could have helped sway his decision.
Another big factor is that in the Arab world (also was a thing among European royalty in the past) marriages between rival nations are a sign of a peace treaty. The union between Eastern and Western Libya has always been shaky. Safia's family is from Bayda which is closer to Benghazi (Eastern capital) while Gaddafi was from Sirte and headquartered in Tripoli (Western capital and at the time, of the whole country.) I've heard that her family is even related to the King he overthrew. Marrying Safia would have been a symbolic gesture of peace and unity between east and west Libya, and would have made the East less likely to turn against Gaddafi's fledgling government. Not saying this was the only reason, but could have factored heavily into his decision to make her his wife instead of just a mistress, and most certainly in his decision to stay with her even after things went downhill at home.
My personal theory is that she got a crush on him (a lot of girls did, I mean he was young and handsome and the hero of the whole country - except the king's tribe lol) and he felt the same because she was so pretty and young and independent and brave, and when he saw she was loyal to him and the other things, they rushed into marriage. (He was already having trouble with his first wife and her family) But remember they knew each other less than a year. I don't think either of them had the chance to really get to know each other first, and after they got married and moved in together they started having personality clashes and realizing they didn't really like each other.
My head canon being that she still loved him but on her terms. She wanted to mold him into who she thought he should be or who she thought he was when they first met before she really got to know him. She probably thought "Why can't you just be normal!"* a few times. While he just started to feel irritated around her. But he couldn't divorce her because she hadn't actually done anything wrong, and his ethics were very much against divorcing a woman for no better reason than you got tired of her. And besides, if he divorced her, he risked losing the East.
*(funny thing is people who knew her said she was kinda odd too)

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Did Gaddafi genuinely have a romantic love of his life? Do you know anything about his childhood crushes? I wonder if he had his heart broken early and made him bitter
No, I definitely don't think he was in any deep romantic relationship with anyone. Gamal Nasser is the person he admired and genuinely loved, I think Nasser's death broke him in more ways than one, but he was able to pick up the pieces and live on to pursue their mutual dream of Arab Unity (and to perfect his own Third Universal Theory.) It's more likely this was a platonic love. Or if he did have any kind of romantic feelings toward him he wouldn't have admitted that even to himself, but he clearly stanned over him. I kind of don't think he had any childhood crushes, well he's never mentioned such a thing, and he had an all-consuming singular focus of planning his revolution (modelled after Nasser's) and ordered his school comrades not to date girls, so they could concentrate on their plans, so I'm sure he followed that same rule for himself too. Overall I think he craved a true deep love with a woman but never found it, because either he was just too unique and nobody could understand him, so much less the two sides of him at once, and because a lot of women didn't like him for himself but for whatever status or privileges they could get from being close to him. I'm absolutely convinced it was that way with Galyna, probably Safia, mayyybe even Huda. And then another thing is his life was so complicated and dangerous that it would have been incredibly painful and frustrating to be his lover.
Welsh porn?
yes.
I think I was put on this earth to read good books but unfortunately I have to be "employed" to "live"
Brother colonel got a 3 star rating on wikifeet. Do you agree with that rating?
I...
Have they SEEN his feet? 🤤

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Could the naming a child after an older dead child be a wider Arab thing?
Like how Hafez al-Assad and Anisa Makhlouf had a daughter named Bushra, who passed away very young, and named the next child Bushra as well
😥 yes, that makes sense
Did muammar get cosmetic surgery on his face? He just looked drastically different at the end
Yes he did have several facelifts and botox and all that. The facial hair and the dressing more traditionally really affect his vibe too, though. It's a combination of things.
The main thing he lost was the deep lines in his cheeks 😞