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humans have a natural inclination to accept universal truths. if someone disagrees with you, the problem is not that you are wrong, it's that what you think is not universal. the simple solution to this is to stay within your universe.

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i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
No actually words have meaning, they don't just mean what you want them to mean. Especially when Jew haters are using that same warped definition of "semitic" to claim Jews are "the real antisemites" because they hate Arabs.
you are right again. words do have meaning, and some jews do hate arabs. but the meaning of words is relative to who says them. what words do not do is dictate reality. just because jews call it israel and arabs call it palestine do not make them two difference places. you just have to decide which is more important to you: living where you want, or living there alone.
Ok I'll try to make this simple. When you say "Arabs are semites" you are giving ammo to Jew haters. If they can say shit like "Jews are antisemitic" then the term loses all its meaning, and calling out anyone on their antisemitism results in dumb wordplay they use to hide the truth.
Plus, this bozo forgets there's already a term for Arab hating. Islamophobia.
i know. anti-semitism and islamaphobia are actually pretty similar. jews and arabs are related, they just practice a different form of the same original religion, and people just want to find any reason to hate other people so they will take what they can get, regardless of whether its logical.
Except one is a lot more widespread and socially acceptable under different "valid" reasons in each era, and repeats blood libels that have no true correlation to reality, and actively harms normal people who had the "misfortune" being related to the prosecuted group.
Like how people once claimed IDF soldiers cut out Gazans' corpses and rob their organs, not too long ago. But please, tell me how they're similar.🫤
both anti-semitism and islamaphobia are widespread and practiced for all of the reasons you said. the only reason one seems to matter more than the other does is because it matters to you. both of those things cause suffering, so why does it matter which one is more widespread if we have to fight all of it? if everything is the same, then what matters is what we distinguish.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
OP's argument is based on a misunderstanding of both linguistics and history.
"Semitic" refers to a language family (Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic), not to a race or ethnic group. People are not "Semitic" any more than they are "Indo-European" because they speak English or Russian.
The idea of a "Semitic race" was developed by 18th century European racial theorists who attempted to divide humanity into discrete biological races based on language, appearance, and ancestry. These racial classifications are now widely regarded as pseudoscientific. Modern genetics, anthropology, and history have thoroughly debunked the notion that language families correspond to distinct biological races. As a result, concepts such as a "Semitic race" or an "Aryan race" are considered outdated relics of racialist thinking rather than valid scientific categories.
The word "antisemitism" was coined in 19th century Europe specifically to describe hostility toward Jews. It has never meant prejudice against all speakers of Semitic languages.
Whether Palestinians and Jews share ancestry, have roots in the Levant, or belong in the region is a completely separate discussion. None of those facts change the meaning of the term antisemitism, which refers specifically to anti Jewish prejudice.
i'm assuming all of that was correct except for the very first sentence and one other thing. you're right, my argument is based in both linguistics and history because linguistics is the foundation of communication which all people do and therefore is something all people can understand and accept the reality of. and history is our understanding of the past based on what happened which is also something all people can understand and accept the reality of.
religion, just like race, is not. so my argument therefore is not really based in linguistics or history, but logic, and i merely used linguistics and history to get the point across.
the other thing i don't agree on that you said is that "anti-semitism" has never referred to a racial group. like every thought of hate, it has only ever referred to a group of people that other people don't like without a logical basis. the idea that someone thinks they are better than someone else is a pseudoscience itself, which is why it often includes other psuedosciences, such as xenophobia.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
No actually words have meaning, they don't just mean what you want them to mean. Especially when Jew haters are using that same warped definition of "semitic" to claim Jews are "the real antisemites" because they hate Arabs.
you are right again. words do have meaning, and some jews do hate arabs. but the meaning of words is relative to who says them. what words do not do is dictate reality. just because jews call it israel and arabs call it palestine do not make them two difference places. you just have to decide which is more important to you: living where you want, or living there alone.
Ok I'll try to make this simple. When you say "Arabs are semites" you are giving ammo to Jew haters. If they can say shit like "Jews are antisemitic" then the term loses all its meaning, and calling out anyone on their antisemitism results in dumb wordplay they use to hide the truth.
and when you talk like that you are giving ammo to people who hate arabs. so how about we stop using guns?
By saying Arabs aren't semitic because semitic is a linguistic term and not a racial one? How exactly?
because semitic is a linguistic term and not a racial one. you just said it. you also said in your very first response that race was a made up term for a pseudoscience, which was correct, but you used it now without referring to the flaws of its premise because it indicates a shared idea that we can both understand which is the foundation of communication on which linguistics is based. but since you are debating me by weaponizing my linguistics against me, that is not a good strategy, because i can do that, too, because linguistics has a basis in reality and does not originate from an uncomfortable feeling of uncertainty of one's place in the world that causes them to try to solve problems that don't exist rather than focusing on the real ones that do, like suffering.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
No actually words have meaning, they don't just mean what you want them to mean. Especially when Jew haters are using that same warped definition of "semitic" to claim Jews are "the real antisemites" because they hate Arabs.
you are right again. words do have meaning, and some jews do hate arabs. but the meaning of words is relative to who says them. what words do not do is dictate reality. just because jews call it israel and arabs call it palestine do not make them two difference places. you just have to decide which is more important to you: living where you want, or living there alone.
Ok I'll try to make this simple. When you say "Arabs are semites" you are giving ammo to Jew haters. If they can say shit like "Jews are antisemitic" then the term loses all its meaning, and calling out anyone on their antisemitism results in dumb wordplay they use to hide the truth.
Plus, this bozo forgets there's already a term for Arab hating. Islamophobia.
i know. anti-semitism and islamaphobia are actually pretty similar. jews and arabs are related, they just practice a different form of the same original religion, and people just want to find any reason to hate other people so they will take what they can get, regardless of whether its logical.

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i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
No actually words have meaning, they don't just mean what you want them to mean. Especially when Jew haters are using that same warped definition of "semitic" to claim Jews are "the real antisemites" because they hate Arabs.
you are right again. words do have meaning, and some jews do hate arabs. but the meaning of words is relative to who says them. what words do not do is dictate reality. just because jews call it israel and arabs call it palestine do not make them two difference places. you just have to decide which is more important to you: living where you want, or living there alone.
Ok I'll try to make this simple. When you say "Arabs are semites" you are giving ammo to Jew haters. If they can say shit like "Jews are antisemitic" then the term loses all its meaning, and calling out anyone on their antisemitism results in dumb wordplay they use to hide the truth.
and when you talk like that you are giving ammo to people who hate arabs. so how about we stop using guns?
actors STOP getting BOTOX it is your literal JOB to move that FOREHEAD
you know what helps to convey emotion? lines. that's why we draw with them.
you can't hate some of a group of people. you either hate a group of people or you dont, and then you make judgements based on which of those people make you feel safest and which make you feel the most insecure. the only thing that is true of the first sentence is that you can hate people.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
No actually words have meaning, they don't just mean what you want them to mean. Especially when Jew haters are using that same warped definition of "semitic" to claim Jews are "the real antisemites" because they hate Arabs.
you are right again. words do have meaning, and some jews do hate arabs. but the meaning of words is relative to who says them. what words do not do is dictate reality. just because jews call it israel and arabs call it palestine do not make them two difference places. you just have to decide which is more important to you: living where you want, or living there alone.
there's a difference between discovering something and realizing something exists. when we discover something we feel a sense of ownership over it. finders keepers after all. and what's yours is yours to use however you see fit. but when we realize something exists, we recognize its true place in the world, and we can understand that it is not our place to mess with it. its here for everyone, not just you.

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what we care about shows in our work. if you care about profits, you will do anything and everything to maximize those profits, including things that are detrimental to other aspects of the business. if you care about innovation, your focus will not be on what you want, but on what people need, and you will focus on what they need to the potential detriment of everything else.
in order for something to be a joke you have to be kidding. truth is always funny. that's why when someone says something funny that you relate to, you laugh, because you recognize the truth in it. it's why in groups can use slurs that apply to them and out groups can't. because either way, when you say something that's real, people can usually tell if you're a safe person for them to be around or not.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
i apologize for the tone in which i said the above. it continues a negative rapport, and i'd like to change that if possible. i'd also like to explain further. i'm sure you're right that the reason the term became "anti-semitic" was precisely to hide people's anti-semitism. my point is, why are we still letting people get away with that? it's time take we change the word we use, and therefore, the meaning behind it
i believe you. and that is terrible. israeli solders have also killed many children with their own families. that is terrible, too.
hostility is not useful. is does not communicate with understanding, it communicates with fear and confusion, and fear and confusion are rarely useful.
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
i apologize for the tone in which i said the above. it continues a negative rapport, and i'd like to change that if possible. i'd also like to explain further. i'm sure you're right that the reason the term became "anti-semitic" was precisely to hide people's anti-semitism. my point is, why are we still letting people get away with that? it's time take we change the word we use, and therefore, the meaning behind it

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i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.
"Semitic" isn't a thing. Antisemitism is hatred of Jews, it's a term that directly replaced judenhass to shift the "reason" for hating Jews from religion to the pseudoscience of race.
Palestinians are antisemitic because they hate Jews.
you understood my words but the meaning flew right over your head
i don't think palestinians are anti-semitic. i think there are many of them that are anti-jewish. but they are not anti-semitic. because they are semitic. they are our family, and they belong in the levant as much as jews do.