probably Oshii Mamoru's greatest sequence in his animated film career. hypnotic. otherworldly. beautiful and filthy.
#GitS would be so good if it was good - but alas
Explaining the premise directly to the camera
I will always remember sitting in the movie theatre watching the elevator scene, a completely still image of the two leads, devoid of emotion, just describing plot minutia uninterrupted for like a full minute, and going, "oh, this is a *bad* movie, isn't it?" I understand you maybe ran out of budget here but come on! Deal with that better! And so on for so much of the film.
Half of the movie has incredible potential, for sure, but it is my go-to example of a work that is less than the sum of its parts.
IMO it's a milieu movie -- the point isn't the plot or characters, it's "hey look at this cool world" and "spend some time living in the world and appreciate its unique vibes" and "emerge with a new sense of wonder". I put James Cameron Avatar solidly in this bucket as well. Glad I watched this; does this well; etc..
I think there's a potential 50 minute cut of Ghost in the Shell that's an improvement on the original (with less talking).
I would agree with the 50 minute cut idea - its best parts absolutely are a mileau movie, the ~vibe of cyberpunk futures and hacker crime and "what is being human anyway" aesthetics. But alas the majority of the run time is spent on the non-mileau portions of the flat characters or boilerplate plots. It is a film that gets in the way of itself.
Angel's Egg is a great example of Oshii doing exactly this idea well - you don't care that the plot of the film is threadbare because it doesn't spend time on it. It is your fault if you care about it overmuch! GitS meanwhile tried to be too many things at once.
it’s almost like………. there’s a ghost of a better movie……. in there somewhere
really gits needs much more time to get its ideas accross. in the absence of that time the movie kind of just reduces it down to bare aesthetics while vaguely gesturing at a couple themes.
The thing is, I think I agree with both of you. I want the 50 minute (maybe even 30 minute) "cut all the plot-in-the-sense-that-it-makes-the-wikipedia-plot-summary" mood piece. And I want the series-length "actually use the plot to build your themes" version.



















