Hi 👋. This blog is for everything whump-related I like. No specific tropes bc i haven't found something I dislike yet but probably some recovery whump, living weapon.
#bposts for my posts, #bwrites for anything I've written. ive listed things i've written below.
I HAVE A PLOT IN MIND AND THINGS ARE BEING WRITTEN I SWEAR THERELL BESTUFFS IN THE FUTURE:
Commander: X, Names
Where the big evil scary commander of the kingdom was really just a slave and the resistance wants to be better and they can't just execute him - right? They have to teach him how to be a person.
Raised: Rescue, Welcome Home, darting, Leave it , Welcome Home (take II)
Vampire raised as a slave in a country of humans, brought to a multispecies country and abandoned. In the care of the people who found him.
Nathan: Welcome
Slave being brought home and discovering what life with his master is like <3
Hound: boring, Technically Successful.
Guard who was sacrificed for his young master, got released, and now has to learn how to live normally.
One shots (technically. for now.) :
Happy Birthday : vampire whumper tries to do something nice for their pet <3
Dinner : Whumper tries to be nice and feeds whumpee.
Yes, sir: War prisoner who maybe finally broke. Someone should really teach him that that's not what his orders are.
Made: Either you do it or I make you. I don't mind either way so I'll let you choose. am I not kind?
the sun is a deadly laser: ex-hunter fledgling has a bad experience with the Sun and is Very Scared of her sire. Continuation: Snack run: blood is very hard to resist and the fledgling is Very Sad.
Yes, Your Majesty: Royal whump. King whumpee and gray eminence whumper, who is very displeased at having been opposed. publicly.
Lesson: wealthy influential family decided to go against the family of assassins. someone teaches them a lesson. 😇.
Affection: Prisoner isn't aware of Fantasy Geneva Convention
kink negotiation: Whumper having fun discussing Whumpee's yes-no-maybe list with them.
Highness: Knight who came back from their service to another lord with a new fear of power
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Bucky is a particularly interesting character to analyze in light of the decisions made in Captain America:The Winter Soldier that changed him from the comics winter soldier.
These changes from comics canon contain some of the things about the character that were compelling, and also the things MCU had no idea what to do with in later installments
In the winter soldier comics, (which are themselves a violent re-invention of the character, he was raised on a military base and became Steve's sidekick after Steve had become Captain America, kind of a darker figure willing to do dirty work that Cap couldn't be seen doing
in the movie, he's Steve's closest childhood friend. They only end up paired up and fighting together because Steve goes on a desperate mission to save his life
in the winter soldier comics, he is something like 7 or 8 years younger than Steve and they still have a mentor/sidekick type of relationship
in the movie they are the same age and steve is no longer a "mentor" figure, that dynamic is eliminated
in the winter soldier comics Bucky loses all his prior memories after his apparent death, making him a blank slate to be groomed into a soviet super-assassin. There is no brainwashing.
in the movie they deliberately erase his memories by strapping him into this scary device that fries his brain with electricity. It's clearly torture: he is shown hyperventilating as the restraints close onto his limbs and then screaming in agony as the device activates.
in the winter soldier comics Bucky as the Winter Soldier is capable of independent thought and snark, and is shown questioning and mouthing off at his superiors
in the movie, Bucky is completely passive. He barely speaks at all; when he does, he is almost childlike, meek and quiet in his interactions with the Hydra characters, stubborn and confused in his fight with Steve. The main antagonist slaps him across the face for not answering a question and he doesn't retaliate at all even though he can obviously kill everyone in the room in the blink of an eye. In the same scene he also lets the scientists manhandle him and eagerly opens his mouth for the mouthguard even as his heart rate is spiking on the monitor and he's starting to hyperventilate because he KNOWS the pain is coming.
(side note: he is shirtless in this scene for no reason)
(second side note: the line "who the hell is Bucky?" is in the movie because it's iconic from the comics, but it's arguably super OOC for mcu!bucky)
The long hair and cyborg arm are straight from the comics, but the most striking change to his appearance is his mask: in the comics, he's wearing a domino mask over his eyes, but in the film, he has an opaque black mask covering his nose and mouth that takes away much of his ability to emote and looks strikingly like a muzzle. The comics mask evokes mysterious wiles; the film's mask evokes dehumanization.
basically the films gave him a much deeper and more intimate connection to Steve while putting the two of them on even footing as friends and partners, and changed him from a morally gray character who indifferently kills people and regrets and becomes angsty once his memories are restored, to a tortured and dehumanized human weapon who obeys despite not understanding anything that's going on because he knows nothing but pain and punishment.
The film's version is really much more interesting. Snarky antiheroes who kill indifferently are a dime a dozen; a character who is palpably, terrifyingly dominating and powerful yet completely powerless in the hands of those who control him, who is hollowed out of all personal identity and who has no agency or control over his own body as it is mutilated, reconstructed and wielded as a weapon, is something much more delicious and fascinating.
We watch this guy slaughter people effortlessly with an apex predator swagger that projects pure dominance and prowess, then we watch him meekly accept abuse and torture with soft, confused eyes.
Of course I'm insane about him. There's a lot to be insane about.
what gets me is like. Ed Brubaker knew what the fuck he was doing when reinventing The Bucky from tragically killed-off sidekick to reanimated cyborg death machine. Sebastian Stan knew what the fuck he was doing when portraying The Bucky. And I'm sure the other people involved with CA:TWS had SOME inkling, because this compelling portrayal doesn't assemble itself by accident.
The rest of the MCU portrayal of Bucky though after that? Clearly no idea what they fuck they had on their hands or what the fuck they were doing with it.
Flattening his character out into "morally gray depression man and he has Gun." And essentially making his story about shouldering responsibility for what he did as the Winter Soldier. A very flat, "guy did bad thing and now he's angsty and guilty about it and trying to redeem himself" (boring) instead of like. the gut wrenching horror of having your memories burned away and your name taken from you and your body reconstructed without your consent and used against your will.
The horror of being a weapon that was once a person and having your very selfhood irretrievably lost to you.
this is where the fanfictions pick it up, and I'm honestly pretty sad that fanfictions are still so widely viewed as Not Real Art, when they are closer to how humans told stories for the last hundred thousand years, and indeed to how storytelling works at its best and most alive and thriving.
We could be telling the most brilliant stories about The Bucky, if we all understood the essential principles (that stories are not Owned by anyone, but become Alive when they are told, in the hearts of the teller and the listener, and to listen to a story gives the gift of the power to tell it again)
And if we could all defeat our enemy, the Cringe (which is to say, that which cringes at sincerity)
God, the writers you put on this earth to write Buckyfic are trying to create something "Original" instead
(because originality receives respect by society as real, legitimate art, and is capable of becoming profitable)
I think, with hindsight, the main problem the post-TWS movies had with Bucky is the torture.
The broad consensus in modern western media seems to be that Torture Is Basically Fine. It works. Torture is an effective way of extracting accurate information. And because that alone isn't enough to make it seem legitimate, there's another failsafe: Torture works only on bad people. Villains crack under torture, and heroes don't.
This is how media creates a culture that finds torture justifiable. Especially media that is largely sponsored by the US military, of course, who in a post-Abu Ghraib, post-Guantanamo, post-CIA papers world has an interest in creating public indifference (or straight up support) for torture, but there's torture in animated movies for children, too. It's ubiquitous.
In real life, torture is horrific violence inflicted on our fellow human beings, that traumatizes both the victim and the torturer, creates heaps of false information, and has no discernible benefits. It doesn't work.
But in fiction, it must work, every time, because if it doesn't, then that collapses the entire structure, doesn't it?
In comes Bucky in TWS.
He's a character who is tortured into complete submission. Who is given electric shocks to the brain to erase his memory, but he still holds onto his own humanity. He is tortured into doing horrible things - the torture works - but it doesn't work completely. He breaks through it. He's beaten, abused, violated on screen, but - and this is important! - because he overcomes in the end, he's not the villain. His story evokes pity and sympathy, not suspicion.
With hindsight, it is clear to me that the mind wipe scene was meant to inspire disgust in the audience. Bucky's terror without fighting back, his defeated acceptance of the inevitable, the slow, lingering pan up his unclothed body. This is emasculating; at the time a lot of meta has been written about how Bucky is shot like a woman in a rape scene.
He submits. This is meant to be suspicious.
But it completely backfires, because what is shown and what follows is the story of a victim of unspeakable abuse finally breaking free from his abuser in a show of awe-inspiring mental strength.
(and also through the power of gay love but let's not get into that)
That's a problem. By complete accident, the film ends up saying Hey, torture is maybe sometimes bad? And that cannot be allowed. There is a more conventional torture scene in the film, where Steve and Sam throw a guy off a roof to get information out of him, but that almost doesn't matter. This is the one instance that makes the whole house of cards come crumbling down. If Bucky is a victim, then torture is both bad and does not work.
It is obvious to me that what followed TWS didn't know how to reconcile that. CA:CW felt extremely jarring because it treats Bucky with so much suspicion; it even retcons in the trigger word nonsense to justify that suspicion. Bucky has to earn trust. He has to redeem himself. From what? Not being able to withstand seven decades of torture?
Well, yes, the film says. Torture only works on bad guys. Bucky allowed the torture to work on him, and so, has proven himself to be untrustworthy. The abuse he suffered sullied him. He has to earn back his moral righteousness.
I want to stress that I do not think any of this is intentional. I don't think there was a meeting in the writer's room where they talked about how they accidentally made it seem like Torture Is Bad Maybe, and how they could reconcile that. If that had been the case, CW would have been a more honest movie. But looking back, it is clear in how the directors talked about the characters after CW came out, and in the baffling writing choices they made, that they were trying to breach this disconnect, without being aware that this is what they were doing.
For the fan spaces I hung around in at the time, where cis men were a minority, this was baffling. There's a reason post-TWS fic almost exclusively talked about Bucky's recovery, not his redemption. There simply was, in fandom's eyes, nothing to redeem him from. CW made clear that w completely misinterpreted TWS.
I'd love to go back in time to observe what the fallout from TWS and CW was in male-dominated fan spaces; how they talked about Bucky in 2015 and 2017.
Anyhow. With the benefit of hindsight, it is obvious to me that no one involved in the writing of CW and what came after took a moment to actually think about the themes and motives of the movies beyond the shallowest surface, and not just with regards to Bucky.
TWS ended up taking the tamest, most inconsistent anti-torture stance possible by complete accident and that could not be allowed. It had to be forcefully retconned. And that's why, in my opinion, post-TWS Bucky ended up being Like That.
Thank you thank you thank you for this. I don't know if you've read my Buckyfic but I've written a lot of meta about torture in relation to my fic and the political context re: torture at the time, to the point that Abu Ghraib is mentioned/discussed in the fic as the thing that broke Steve's desire to be Captain America
I've never thought of it in this light, though; this is actually a great explanation for why the trigger words were introduced in Civil War and why it feels like a retcon. Audiences didn't respond to Bucky as expected, and they had to change the method of his control/brainwashing to make audiences read him as a threat/antagonist for Civil War
You're also completely correct that the scene where the protagonists throw the Hydra dude off the roof is a torture scene. (I realized this after watching Jacob Geller's video analyzing the torture scenes in Call of Duty. Highly recommend if this topic interests you)
It is absolutely true that torture scenes in fiction often serve to show off the (usually male) character's "toughness" and mental resolve, which is a fantasy, one that comes out of this political context at the time of Guantanamo and the torture memos and the political agenda to make torture more acceptable/palatable to the public.
So in this context, the vault scene (where Bucky is struck across the face and doesn't retaliate, and passively submits to torture without complaint) evokes sympathy for Bucky but it's also supposed to show that Bucky isn't a "hero" in the same way the Heroes are heroes. Heroes don't "break" under torture; Bucky does.
Which means that accidentally, the scene was a little more honest about torture than movies are usually allowed to be.
This is what I meant when I said the Hydra Trash Party-goers knew what they were doing, btw. Real life torture is almost inseparable from sexual violence.
The popular portrayal of torture in movies is fully irreconcilable with that: when a Hero is tortured, it's an opportunity for him to reinforce his strength (and masculinity) by Not Breaking and hanging on to his dignity. The reality of what a torture victim would actually go through is so threatening to that fantasy version that it can't be acknowledged.
whumpee who has a "Y/T" slot. Your Title. by default it's sir or smth but they'll replace if you ask, of course. sure they can use your name - shove it into the Title slot and use it with all the gravitas and lack of grammar sense of someone who doesn't see it as anything other than the way you prefer to be referred to - the way which is less likely to get them punished. it doesn't depends on the circumstances or feelings they just. substitute.
We love a nice gun barrel used to brush Whumpee’s hair out of their face. We love when the cold metal passes over a bruise and presses down gently, drawing out a wince or a groan.
"Keep those eyes open. This is happening because of you. They are dying because of you. You need to accept the consequences of your actions and WATCH."
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he likes having his autonomy violated and his boundaries overruled it's literally good for him. he likes being given a meaningful task within pre-defined constraints that he absolutely must do Or Else. and he likes being packed up and kept in a box. send post.
Take a whumpee out on a farm in the middle of nowhere man’s land, and you don’t even have to tie them up, you don’t have to break them. The escaping will do all the work for you.
They’ll run till their lungs give out, they keep crawling until they bleed. And then you ride out on your horse and carry them back, each time patient as ever until they just stop.
They beg you to talk to them, to yell at them, to punish them, anything other than just ignoring them, watching them break slowly.
And eventually you throw them a bone, you acknowledge them only at the small cost of everything they were before.
They only have room to be yours now, and a part of them can’t remember anything else.
literally just start posting about your OCs. you don’t even have to “properly” introduce them just make them a dedicated tag, tag them on posts that remind you of them, and then start talking about them like everyone’s supposed to already know who they are. i am not joking when i say this method works.
AND CRUCIALLY NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR TALKING ABOUT THEM. IF YOU DO NOT LOVE YOUR CREATIONS ENTHUSIASTICALLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY THEN WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE!!!!!
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it's lucky we get to hear murderbot's internal monologue because otherwise we might be deluded into thinking it's a cool badass action hero. fuckin swooping in at the last second and whisking people out of the jaws of monsters. unlocking doors with a thought. cloud of drones sweeping past in formation. it caught an assassin a yard away from Mensah's face after chasing them all the way across the station. nobody else knows it's constantly going oh shit oh fuck oh SHIT I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM DOING
New whumpee :)))))) a lot of context is in a word doc somewhere but this is still readable.
Twelve takes over Zero's position and has some hesitations. He recommends drills.
cw: living weapon, kneeling, conditioned whumpee
Zero corners their new vice-leader a few days after the announcement. And by corner – he audibly asks her if they could talk after training and waits on the other side of the hall while everyone leaves them be.
Twelve comes to him like a guilty dog and he almost clacks his tongue.
“I have no reproach concerning your taking over my position. Only concerns.”
The relieved lowering of her shoulders stops mid-move. She sighs.
“You always have concerns, Zero.”
He almost chides her for her tone. It’s no longer his prerogative, technically, but it’s not like he’ll stop watching their behaviour. The client can say as he like: once they’re back to the base, Zero will get his responsibilities back and it will be easier if he pays attention now.
“I’ve noticed your hesitation when giving orders. When giving me orders.”
He’s always watched her – the rest of the team, as well – and since James asked him if they could consider putting Twelve in charge, he’s watched her even closer.
From their team, she’s probably the most competent for the position. She doesn’t hesitate to yell out a command when in action, she’s diplomatic – but not afraid to speak her mind – in meetings. She’s positive, managing to motivate her teammates in a way Zero has never even tried.
Twelve is also a lot more social, which he can concede is helpful in her new position. The position was meant to help with teamwork, making sure both teams would collaborate well and learn from each other. Zero can acknowledge it is better to put in charge someone who can have casual conversation with every member of both teams.
Which is not him.
There is, however, one problem.
“You seem to struggle with giving me commands.”
Systematically adding could or would to her requests – because those couldn’t be called orders, really – sometimes a please or a thank you. He has enough experience to guess what she wants from him, but sometimes she tries something novel enough that Zero has to look for her directions and she hesitates.
It’s dangerous, both on and off the field.
He’s not really expecting to fail, but if he did and Twelve had to correct him and didn’t, for any reasons, it would spell her end. There are implications in refusing to correct a fellow weapon none of his teammates thought about, Zero knows.
Twelve tries to deny but he only has to raise an eyebrow in her direction. She’s not that unaware. He pushes a little further.
“Do you think I won’t follow your commands?”
The way she scowls at the floor says a lot of things she never will. He knows the rest of his team struggles a bit more with the amount of control they’re under.
“I know you will.” Twelve sounds bitter. “That’s the problem.”
Zero tilts his head to the side.
“It’s- It feels wrong. You’re.... Zero. You’re in charge. I hate-” She cuts herself off and turns away. “It shouldn’t be like this.”
Clients are in charge unless on base, where a handler’s authority overrules anything short of an emergency.
James has been kind enough that he doesn’t correct her.
“I’ve had the same training as you, Twelve.” Amongst others. “You’ve seen me follow directions from handlers, too.”
Not as often as the rest of them because some people love describing their problems at length – listening to the sound of their own voice – and having him figure out how to turn that into concise orders for the team. So, the rest of them wait at down and Zero plays soldier.
“I don’t like it then, either.”
He also doesn’t need the reminders as much as them – he doesn’t say, because it always pisses off his team somehow. He doesn’t have their… reservations about orders. Handlers – most of them, anyway – behave accordingly. Even when in a mood, they know he’s not the one to go after when they’re looking to let off steam.
Maybe that’s the issue, Twelve assuming he’ll find following her commands humiliating. His teammates tend to extend their feelings to him.
She continues to scowl, muttering something he wouldn’t let fly on base about handlers.
“Let’s run through basic commands. It’ll help.”
Twelve’s jaw clenches and she only scowls harder at the floor. It had helped him practice ordering people around – running through drills alone, speaking commands at himself.
She has a different issue, but he imagines it’ll help, still.
“Let’s go. The next option is not doing anything unless you command it and I don’t think you’d enjoy that.”
She’s still scowling when he drops to his knees in front of her. It’ll force her to use up and then Zero hopes she’ll cycle through the commands almost out of habit. It should be instinct, or something like that, if the conditioning has been done properly – and it has.
He forces his body into relaxed, unsuitable posture. The first command is mumbled but the rhythm is familiar, and he falls back into it immediately.
Down.
Up.
Ease.
Guard.
Crouch.
Come.
Drop.
Freeze.
On and on without Zero ever having to think. His body moves on its own, to the point where he has to still a few times – Twelve stutters some of the commands and it wouldn’t be helpful if he did things before she asked just because he knows the arrangement.
She skips some of them, for reasons he can guess at but not understand. He at least makes sure to keep his expression blank – it throws him off a little but it’s not like the cycle absolutely must be followed.
Zero only really stops when she apologises – hands reaching for a holster he doesn’t have. Twelve doesn’t look better, just resigned. She looks down at him and sighs, something tired – sad? Or angry? He’s not quite sure – in her eyes.
There’s no way she’ll be able to correct him, if it comes to it. No way in hell.
He’ll do what he can to guess her intentions and not fail but if it comes to it, they’re definitely better off with him redirecting the correction, as always.
“Good enough. Did it help?”
Twelve says no but the denial is already a sign of her growing confidence. She was good at making her displeasure or disagreement known, telling him to fuck off was new.
Either his idea had worked or their latest client was working his magic – and giving them terrible habits Zero would struggle to fight off.
“Are we done?”
She starts to head for the door when he nods, looking back when he doesn’t follow her. He raises an eyebrow.
“I’m not telling you to get up, Zero. That’s- No.”
He waits a while longer to see if she’ll come back but she doesn’t. James calls his name from the corridor, and he pushes himself up slowly.
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