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Everyday the more I believe that Caine actually didnt do anything wrong and making him out to be the Evil Sentient Ai just....doesnt work [and makes the last episode. hm.]
ok i did it. image for people who like defending caine but also want to make it clear that they Understand that He Did Bad Things. feel free to use, no credit required. enjoy
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I will be bitching on main cuz I think its incredibly funny to watch 10 chambers make another meme contest, have plentiful amount of people NOT show a liking to it, and instead ask WHY they're doing it with a game they've said they will no longer be working on.
Ive read TOS, I've read all the posts, understood what i needed to do.
Deadline is on June 9th right>? And on their TOS it states, "Winners will be chosen within 7 days after the contest" <--[Not exact but it still stated winners would be chosen basically after a week]
It has been now 2 WEEKS. And retweeted smt where someone asked about the winners on their social media.
ALSO. Someone has asked on the steam discussion from the original post and all we got was an answer back on June 23rd [A Tuesday] being told winners are being chosen this week. [Its currently 27th, Saturday.]
Now. While I still hold gtfo dear to my heart I will never lie and say I dont think 10 chambers is. A Company. That Certainly Do Stuff. A lot I dont agree with, a lot I have issues with. A lot I find very frustrating when your own community continues to make their feelings clear and you seemingly outright ignore that to just shove another funny meme competition to a game that hasnt gotten a big update since the release of Rundown 8 >? [2024] Get a fuckin grip.
[Note, I feel like I should add that I did infact enter the contest [not under the light of winning, cuz frankly i have no clue what id do with half the shit they plan on giving---esp the den of wolves shit. Dont...dont get me started.] But I think the fact they've failed to really....acknowledge anything or how its going with the contest is....wow. You really are a company 10 Chambers...
I will be bitching on main cuz I think its incredibly funny to watch 10 chambers make another meme contest, have plentiful amount of people NOT show a liking to it, and instead ask WHY they're doing it with a game they've said they will no longer be working on.
Ive read TOS, I've read all the posts, understood what i needed to do.
Deadline is on June 9th right>? And on their TOS it states, "Winners will be chosen within 7 days after the contest" <--[Not exact but it still stated winners would be chosen basically after a week]
It has been now 2 WEEKS. And retweeted smt where someone asked about the winners on their social media.
ALSO. Someone has asked on the steam discussion from the original post and all we got was an answer back on June 23rd [A Tuesday] being told winners are being chosen this week. [Its currently 27th, Saturday.]
Now. While I still hold gtfo dear to my heart I will never lie and say I dont think 10 chambers is. A Company. That Certainly Do Stuff. A lot I dont agree with, a lot I have issues with. A lot I find very frustrating when your own community continues to make their feelings clear and you seemingly outright ignore that to just shove another funny meme competition to a game that hasnt gotten a big update since the release of Rundown 8 >? [2024] Get a fuckin grip.
[Note, I feel like I should add that I did infact enter the contest [not under the light of winning, cuz frankly i have no clue what id do with half the shit they plan on giving---esp the den of wolves shit. Dont...dont get me started.] But I think the fact they've failed to really....acknowledge anything or how its going with the contest is....wow. You really are a company 10 Chambers...
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Perhaps a dumb rant, but I really hate how people will sometimes treat Leland Coyle like he's "the most evil" of the PAs.
Like, first off, I don't think there IS a most evil, they're all "evil" in their own ways.
I would even hesitate to call them evil, I feel like evil implies they were born like this, or that they're inherently bad, but they're not. They're all products of their environment, and Coyle is the same. They're bad people, terrible people even, but I don't like the use of the word evil for them, but that's neither here nor there.
I feel like calling Coyle "the most evil" or "the worst of them" not only downplays the other's "evilness" (again, I don't think they're evil, they're bad people, yes, but evil isn't the word I'd use) but also makes, not a lot of sense to me? Yes he's racist, so are the Kress twins. Yes he has killed people, so have literally everyone else in this goddamn game, yes he's misogynistic, the others most likely are too (including Gooseberry, or her father at least. Liliya is a question mark for this because we don't really know much of her in that regard). Yes he's a rapist, again, almost all of them are.
If I had to choose a "worst" of them, it'd be the Kress twins, mostly because they're fucking billionaires! Coyle was limited only to his area, as far as I know, but Kress chemical was everywhere. Otto was a politician (or controlled politicians?), they had more of a hand in things, in the government, than Coyle ever did. Not to mention than Otto looks up to fucking Hitler (apparently, I may need to double check that but I'm 90% sure he does).
Even then, I don't like choosing a worst, they're all terrible fucking people. They're all horrible. It isn't about choosing "the best" of them or the most pure, there is no one in this game who is innocent (except for some of the victims and ex-pop perhaps). Everyone has done something bad.
Like, I can understand not liking Coyle, you can have your feelings about him, that's fine. I just really hate when people have this sort of "I'm better than you" attitude in regards to others liking Coyle or when they treat him like he's the absolute worst character in the whole game.
Also, I'm tired of people treating the women like somehow better than the other PAs?? It's weird, it gives the vibes of "women can't hurt people like men do" which is bullshit. Gooseberry is at least a little implied to be a pedophile and even if she isn't she encouraged kids to do drugs and kill their parents, didn't she? Her whole thing with kids is weird, no matter how "motherly" she acts you can't really brush that off as "harmless". We may not know much about Liliya but we can't just assume she's a morally good or even neutral person. Yes she targeted rich people, that's great, but she likely also targeted innocent people too, and maybe I don't know enough about her to really speak on her, but I feel like just based off her trial perhaps she also took part in some human trafficking (even if it was only to get at her rich victims or something of the sort). I don't know, this is a rushed point because my phone is about to die, but anyways. They're all horrible people, that's it. No one is worse, no one is better.
Prev you made GREAT points!!! I agree with you like 100%, I just got a lot of inspiration to expand upon them, so. This is me doing that.
This is really long tho (like REALLY long) so it's below the cut.... I'm really passionate about this game and the characters, okay?
YES. I NOTICED THAT!! people tend to hold more sympathy for the other PAs I noticed, but they also treat the other PAs as more of a joke than anything (particularly The Kress Twins though I wouldn't doubt it happens with the others too).
In particular, I'd bet the reason more people don't directly hate the Kress twins as much as they hate Coyle is because they're so blinded by the incest thing (and the conjoined twins thing, I won't get into it too much, but people are really ableist towarfs them tbh) they don't even look into the character, and like, I get it. The incest thing is weird, but given their whole backstory it's not unexpected either? And there's so much more to them than that...
The jokes are funny, I'll say that, I just wish people would look more into the characters. Like, we could note how Arora is clearly suicidal, how she seems to have some form of ED. How both the twins are incredibly racist and hold clearly fascist beliefs (again; Otto looking up to Hitler), how they were a part of the government and clearly had way more control and the ability to do way more damage than Coyle ever truly did because they were fucking politicians (sorry this pisses me off the most. I understand that like, Coyle is very racist and the corrupt cop thing hits close to home for people, but shouldn't the politician thing hit even harder then? I genuinely cannot understand how between "corrupt cop who was part of the KKK but probably only really had reach in a small sundown town" is constantly put as worse than "corrupt politician and scientist who are both clearly very fascist and racist and had quite the large amount of reach due to, you know, being a part of the government/having influence on it and also they look up to Hitler")
LITERALLY THIS. Otto has a line where I believe he calls Franco "barely even white" due to him being Italian, they have creepy lines towards almost everyone where they essentially suggest using them as toys (including Coyle, actually. Arora takes interest in him because of his uniform or his hat, I believe? It's some sort of poverty kink type thing I think) and obviously they've said some very fucked shit about gooseberry too, but people ignore that
And yeah, the female characters are always treated as lesser or more naive. Especially gooseberry, i feel like just because she's mentally ill and a woman everyone seems to excuse her actions or act as if she's better than the others? She harmed literal children? Hello??? She isn't. Better. Neither is Liliya. It's just weird.
Nod nod nod!!!! I feel like a lot of people ignore Coyle's trauma actually. They treat him like he's evil just because and that he's always been that way, when in actuality all throughout his trials, his voice lines, notes, the comics, ect, there are hints of his trauma. Not even hints, it's not like, subtle, they're very fucking obvious tbh
Like, we know he's a victim of CSA, both from his comics and his paranoia around the topic (perhaps that's an assumption, but generally I feel like most people don't jump to "they're gonna rape me" like he does in his voice lines unless they've been raped or been exposed to that kind of thing before), and we know it was most likely his mother who did it, based on how he talks about her (though his father could've also been involved, we don't know).
I'd also like to bring up that him being apart of the KKK, while obviously terrible, doesn't necessarily mean he wanted to join, if that makes sense? Maybe I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I do believe it could be interrupted that he was groomed into it given how it's described that he joined. He was "recruited" (I think that word is the important part, but I'll go into that in a moment) as a teenager, presumably to escape the consequences of his crimes, or to "kibosh" aka stop them. That particular wording does also make me think maybe his parents made him join? But anyways, I'm focusing a bit on the word recruited because, let's really consider that word. What does it mean to recruit someone? Well, it usually means persuading them to join something, and when we consider how the KKK were it isn't hard to believe they may have done this via fearmongering or some other kind of Manipulative method. But that's just theorising. I do also think he's pretty aware that his racism isn't like, logical. I mean he does admit it's just "looking for an easy answer" and such, but obviously that doesn't excuse that he still continues to believe in it anyways. It's just a point I wanted to make, that he's not necessarily a mindless racist, he does have depth in him even in that regard.
But, anyways. Besides analysing his trauma, let me discuss the trials a bit. Because like, he likes them, sure, I'm sure he loves torturing people, but it's not that simple at the same time.
People ignore that the trials are not just rough on the reagents but also on the ex-pop and the prime assets. Coyle isn't just having fun and games (though he can make you think as much), the trials are just as much a form of torture for him as they are for you. He's a deeply paranoid and controlling man, see, and they put him in an environment where, in theory, he can control everything, but then they also have people (the reagents) constantly coming in and messing everything up, undermining his power, throwing things at him, ect.
We can say he likes going after reagents, I'm sure he does, but consider how much he has to do it, and the shame he feels when they actually manage to escape. It would certainly build up over time. I imagine he never really relaxes in his trial environments, because just being there means that at any moment some "criminal" can just come in and fuck everything up. Alongside that, he's constantly surrounded by mentally unstable and dangerous ex-pop, and sure those ex-pop obey him, but to what extent? He doesn't trust them, that is clear by his line where he essentially admits that he's overwhelmed by the amount of them and doesn't think he can keep them all "cowed and submissive" (assuming he's talking about the ex-pop; it could also be the reagents, or maybe both, but either way it stands that he clearly doesn't feel safe, he fears an uprising.)
Also, just overall, when you kill the snitch or the judge he seems genuinely devastated, I don't think he necessarily cares about them the same way you would a loved one, but he clearly puts a lot of effort into protecting them and every time they die it's a failure on his part. He doesn't take failure well, that much is clear. The trials are just constant failure upon failure with the occasional murder/torture involved (which, while likely a little fulfilling for him, I doubt the high from that lasts long when he has more reagents coming in right after).
I don't know, maybe I'm not making much sense, this post took me a bit to write and I did write half of it with a headache, my point is simply that there's a Lot more to Leland Coyle than just "haha racist hillbilly cop" and i wish people would just stop treating him like he's genuinely the worst character in the game and as if he's not also suffering. There's a lot more I can say, but I'll leave it here for now.
Perhaps a dumb rant, but I really hate how people will sometimes treat Leland Coyle like he's "the most evil" of the PAs.
Like, first off, I don't think there IS a most evil, they're all "evil" in their own ways.
I would even hesitate to call them evil, I feel like evil implies they were born like this, or that they're inherently bad, but they're not. They're all products of their environment, and Coyle is the same. They're bad people, terrible people even, but I don't like the use of the word evil for them, but that's neither here nor there.
I feel like calling Coyle "the most evil" or "the worst of them" not only downplays the other's "evilness" (again, I don't think they're evil, they're bad people, yes, but evil isn't the word I'd use) but also makes, not a lot of sense to me? Yes he's racist, so are the Kress twins. Yes he has killed people, so have literally everyone else in this goddamn game, yes he's misogynistic, the others most likely are too (including Gooseberry, or her father at least. Liliya is a question mark for this because we don't really know much of her in that regard). Yes he's a rapist, again, almost all of them are.
If I had to choose a "worst" of them, it'd be the Kress twins, mostly because they're fucking billionaires! Coyle was limited only to his area, as far as I know, but Kress chemical was everywhere. Otto was a politician (or controlled politicians?), they had more of a hand in things, in the government, than Coyle ever did. Not to mention than Otto looks up to fucking Hitler (apparently, I may need to double check that but I'm 90% sure he does).
Even then, I don't like choosing a worst, they're all terrible fucking people. They're all horrible. It isn't about choosing "the best" of them or the most pure, there is no one in this game who is innocent (except for some of the victims and ex-pop perhaps). Everyone has done something bad.
Like, I can understand not liking Coyle, you can have your feelings about him, that's fine. I just really hate when people have this sort of "I'm better than you" attitude in regards to others liking Coyle or when they treat him like he's the absolute worst character in the whole game.
Also, I'm tired of people treating the women like somehow better than the other PAs?? It's weird, it gives the vibes of "women can't hurt people like men do" which is bullshit. Gooseberry is at least a little implied to be a pedophile and even if she isn't she encouraged kids to do drugs and kill their parents, didn't she? Her whole thing with kids is weird, no matter how "motherly" she acts you can't really brush that off as "harmless". We may not know much about Liliya but we can't just assume she's a morally good or even neutral person. Yes she targeted rich people, that's great, but she likely also targeted innocent people too, and maybe I don't know enough about her to really speak on her, but I feel like just based off her trial perhaps she also took part in some human trafficking (even if it was only to get at her rich victims or something of the sort). I don't know, this is a rushed point because my phone is about to die, but anyways. They're all horrible people, that's it. No one is worse, no one is better.
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I don't wanna sound like mean or nuthin but a lot of y'all have been trapped in a vortex of suffering for so long that you've come to identify with the suffering as an aspect of your personality and ideology and thereby to covet suffering and to mistake debasement for enoblement and humiliation for virtue
The brief rush of moral superiority might be enough to sustain you for an hour or a day but in the long term it's a very very unhealthy coping mechanism and in the very long term it's where stuff like Christianity comes from