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Just saw a "nature is q*eer" with a male seahorse as an example 😭😭😭😭😭 THESE PEOPLE DONT EVEN KNOW THE MECHANICS OF SEAHORSE REPRODUCTION! The male is not pregnant! He literally just incubates the eggs in a pouch! Again, quite telling when these people think pregnancy = just holding developing embryos
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"Cis privilege" is a way for males to say that women have privilege over them in order to silence them
Males think that oppressing women is a human right. No matter how oppressed a man is, he will always seek to oppress women in the same position as him. Their entitlement to oppress women is considered a given, and when they feel injustice at being poor, a large part of it is that they feel injustice at the fact that they can't oppress rich women as much as they oppress other poor women.
Men don't measure class by wealth, or race, or country, they measure it by how many women they are given the opportunity to oppress.
I’ll never forget when I was arguing with a person in favor of total prison abolition and I asked them “what about violent offenders?” And they said “Well, in a world where prisons have been abolished, we’ll have leveled the playing field and everyone will have their basic needs met, and crime won’t be as much of an issue.” And then I was like “okay. But…no. Because rich people also rape and murder, so it isn’t just a poor person thing. So what will we do about that?” And I don’t think they answered me after that. I’m ashamed to say I continued to think that the problem was that I simply didn’t understand prison abolitionists enough and that their point was right in front of me, and it would click once I finally let myself understand it. It took me a long time to realize that if something is going to make sense, it needs to make sense. If you want to turn theory into Praxis (I’m using that word right don’t correct me I’ll vomit) everyone needs to be on board, which mean it all needs to click and it needs to click fast and fucking clear. You need to turn a complex idea into something both digestible and flexible enough to be expanded upon. Every time I ask a prison abolitionist what they actually intend to do about violent crime, I get directed to a summer reading list and a BreadTuber. It’s like a sleight-of-hand trick. Where’s the answer to my question. There it is. No wait, there it is. It’s under this cup. No it isn’t. “There’s theory that can explain this better than I can.” As if most theory isn’t just a collection of essays meant to be absorbed and discussed by academics, not the average skeptic. “Read this book.” And the book won’t even answer the question. The book tells you to go ask someone else. “Oh, watch this so-and-so, she totally explains it better than me.” Why can’t you explain it at all? Why did you even bring it up if you were going to point me to someone else to give me the basics that you should probably already know? Maybe I’m just one of those crazy people who thinks that some people need to be kept away from the public for everyone’s good. Maybe that just makes me insane. Maybe not believing that pervasive systemic misogyny could be solved with a UBI and a prayer circle makes me a bad guy. But it’s not like women’s safety is a priority anyway. It’s not like there is an objective claim to be made that re-releasing violent offenders or simply not locking them up is deadly.
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finding out the 4B subreddit is full of SWERFs is a big yikes.
The fuck were you expecting? One of the tenets of 4B is “Don’t have sex with men”. That’s like entering the vegan subreddit and getting mad there’s vegans there.
Y'all really do think prostituted women and girls are a special species who enjoy being subjected to the behaviours y'all won't tolerate from men. You cruise the 4B subreddit because men keep acting like buying you dinner means you owe them sex but us saying "yes and also it is horrible to be stuck in a situation where you're FORCED to let men have sex with you for money, where "the customer is always right" is taken to violent extremes in ways that make a job at McDonalds look like a kumbaya fest, because society is structured to create an underclass of women who have to choose between having sex with men they don't want to have sex with or starving" is beyond the pale? I get that the industry has insane PR; I'm guilty of falling for it too in the past, but if you're going to reject one societal institution with insane PR (heterosexual dating) then you might as well open your mind to criticisms of other ones.
y’all can deadass blame Drew Afualo for me going full on terf and proud. i do NOT care anymore. how can you, as a cis woman, deadass get on the internet and say that you stand by the opinion that trans women have a “better and more beautiful understanding of womanhood than cis women do” and then call every cis woman a terf bitch who disagrees? it’s no shock to me that so many feminists and women are jumping ship. y’all continue to constantly go into spaces meant for women and throw misogyny in our faces. we can’t speak on sex based violence, our biology, our childhoods, pregnancy, periods, and now even our own womanhood without it being redefined, or us being told to shut up OR being called insecure or a “terf” / transphobic for recognizing that there are differences between trans and cis women. whether y’all like it or not biology and socialization play a huge part, a trans woman will NEVER understand womanhood from the perspective of a biological woman who was born and raised a female. that doesn’t meant they aren’t “women” but trying to pretend they have a “better understanding” of womanhood is flat out invalidating and misogynistic. period. why are we even comparing anyway? it’s like they are asking for a further divide. i could seriously rant about this forever, i even have screenshots, im just glad she blocked me or i would’ve been arguing in her comment section on tiktok for years. this was nothing but a great reminder as to why i keep my opinions on this topic to myself. i genuinely am so done dealing with braindead idiots like her who purposely dance around the point then fall back on misogynistic rhetoric to project this allyship persona. you’re NOT an ally to cis women: that’s for sure.
I would like for her and her ilk to please define why and how males have a "more beautiful understanding of womanhood."
From both podcast clips and her circular responses, the answer seems to be that males understand womanhood better because they weren't tainted by sexual assault. That's it. Women are bitter because they are more likely to be sexually exploited and abused because of their womanhood, while males aren't.
These "feminists" are looking in our faces and telling us that fearing sexual assault and all its consequences (most importantly pregnancy) makes us less women than the men who were never taught to fear it from birth.
i fear they are online saying that biology had nothing to do with womanhood or our experience has women and the reason trans women have a “better and more beautiful” perspective of womanhood/femininity is because they have to “find themselves in this big scary world” 🥺🥺🥺🥺
i still can’t even fathom how this person could even bring sexual assault into the conversation??? i don’t know one biological woman who defines herself and her womanhood around her “ability to be sexually assaulted” but to deny that the sexual gender based violence that women around the world experience from the moment we are born….yeah that’s something trans women can’t relate with. sorry, and that’s not transphobic to say. trans women get assaulted yes, and that’s not okay but they cannot relate to biological women. that’s why i continue to say it’s delusional to pretend biological sex doesn’t pay a huge factor in how you were raised and formed as a person, therefore your ideas and opinions and experiences.
when i tell you im genuinely done engaging with people who agree with this thinking, i mean it. i do think it’s absolutely hilarious they equate makeup and skirts with womanhood but not periods and being born with a vagina. i think it’s hilarious trans women relay so heavily on a traditionally feminine appearance to pass and then turn around to mock cis women in our own spaces but tell us gender is a spectrum and biology is transphobic. i was recently asked in a threads argument if i’ve had my “eggs checked to confirm im really a female” i mean hello?????
it’s misogyny, pure and simple. that’s all it ever will be.
Womanhood is equated to how well female people respond and obey the patriarchy. Since women have decided it's not worth it, that there's nothing for us to gain, misogynists are finding other ways to try to convince us (a couple of years ago it was by telling us we'd never find good men to marry. Now it is by comparing us to men with fetishes and telling us we'll never be as womanly as them)
Their comments all read like religious propaganda. "Womanhood is inherent," "womanhood is a feeling," "womanhood is something from your soul," "womanhood is an interpretation."
They can only lay down abstract concepts because all material reality is against them. None of them will be able to tell you how come, if being a woman is such an impalpable concept, only female people were excluded from voting, or why we commit less crimes, or why less medications are studied on our bodies too.
Being a woman is a feeling, yet they immediately know that disobedient female people are to be called "bitches."
Womanhood is not complex. Womanhood is quite literally to be a female human who has reached adulthood, no matter how many bells, whistles, skirts, heels, and make-up product one adds to her life.
And don't even get me started on that stupid second comment, with that line about us nasty women always whining about being women while the men in wigs are always so happy. They will do anything in their power to make sure that women will stop pointing out the discrimination we suffer for being born female.
y’all can deadass blame Drew Afualo for me going full on terf and proud. i do NOT care anymore. how can you, as a cis woman, deadass get on the internet and say that you stand by the opinion that trans women have a “better and more beautiful understanding of womanhood than cis women do” and then call every cis woman a terf bitch who disagrees? it’s no shock to me that so many feminists and women are jumping ship. y’all continue to constantly go into spaces meant for women and throw misogyny in our faces. we can’t speak on sex based violence, our biology, our childhoods, pregnancy, periods, and now even our own womanhood without it being redefined, or us being told to shut up OR being called insecure or a “terf” / transphobic for recognizing that there are differences between trans and cis women. whether y’all like it or not biology and socialization play a huge part, a trans woman will NEVER understand womanhood from the perspective of a biological woman who was born and raised a female. that doesn’t meant they aren’t “women” but trying to pretend they have a “better understanding” of womanhood is flat out invalidating and misogynistic. period. why are we even comparing anyway? it’s like they are asking for a further divide. i could seriously rant about this forever, i even have screenshots, im just glad she blocked me or i would’ve been arguing in her comment section on tiktok for years. this was nothing but a great reminder as to why i keep my opinions on this topic to myself. i genuinely am so done dealing with braindead idiots like her who purposely dance around the point then fall back on misogynistic rhetoric to project this allyship persona. you’re NOT an ally to cis women: that’s for sure.
I would like for her and her ilk to please define why and how males have a "more beautiful understanding of womanhood."
From both podcast clips and her circular responses, the answer seems to be that males understand womanhood better because they weren't tainted by sexual assault. That's it. Women are bitter because they are more likely to be sexually exploited and abused because of their womanhood, while males aren't.
These "feminists" are looking in our faces and telling us that fearing sexual assault and all its consequences (most importantly pregnancy) makes us less women than the men who were never taught to fear it from birth.
"Trans women love and revere women so much, that's why we're trans women!" as an argument is a bit like saying "You have to accept me because I'm a gay ally!"
You don't just decide that you respect women and then push it on women to see you that way. Women are the ones who decide if you respect women from your choices and behavior. And using this as a guilt token to force yourself in places women don't want you is a pretty clear sign you do not respect women lol
I think a lot of transmisogyny stems from this idea that people are really scared to see a dick. The reason bathrooms and locker rooms and hot springs keep being flash points is because these are all places where if a trans woman is using them, it's possible you might see her dick. A lot of transmisogynistic humor revolves around being traumatized because the subject saw a woman with a penis. And look, to a certain extent I sympathize. I'm not a fan of dick; I dont want this thing either. But if you want to be an ally to trans women, I think a big important step you can take personally is to examine your own reaction to the scenarios I described above, and recognize that a dick is just a body part a girl has sometimes. Seeing it as inherently sexual and/or traumatizing is a major wedge conservatives use to justify their rhetoric
"women should be okay with seeing dicks in every possible environment they exist in, regardless of their own comfort because it makes men in dresses happy. Their own personal safety, well being, and trauma doesn't matter because trans women might get their feelings hurt being reminded they have a dick! Even though they claim to hate having one, they find every opportunity and reason to show it off to women who dont want to see it! I'm very progressive"
Op, seriously go fuck yourself.
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They're never beating the cult allegations with shit like this
Blessed is consent and blessed is respect next to blessed are the sex workers 🫠
Not seeing “blessed are the lesbians, gay men, or bisexuals” on there at any point…
not our culture. never will be.
Jeans, t-shirts, leggings and mini skirts aren't originally part of India's, Iran's or Somalia's culture either, yet I do not see you making a comparison complaining about that, even though westernization is WAY more prevalent than the niqab in most of these countries mentioned. It's almost like you just have a problem with Arabs or something...
By the way, face covering IS part of Gulf Arab culture.
It also says a lot that you cherry picked images of women without headcoverings like the example for Bosnia even though headscarves are part of Balkan folk clothing including for Christians like Greeks and Serbs. You clearly don't know anything.
The difference is that no one's forced to wear jeans or tshirts you moron. I'm an ex muslim from india and I live in a predominantly muslim village. I still get judgemental looks when I wear pants. I can't walk around my neighborhood without a shawl on my head because I get stopped by random grown ass men and women who slutshame me for not wearing one. Yes it's a "choice". But made at what cost? How much of a choice is there when the only alternative is to suffer humiliation and bullying? It might be a choice for you because you live in fucking Germany. Why don't you go live in Afghanistan or Iran to experience true freedom of choice?
And I don't have a problem with Arabs. I have a problem with arab imperialism. Because if they hadn't invaded our country and forced their barbaric religion on us, millions of girls like me wouldn't be forced into this fucking cult. You can all pretend that arab imperialism isn't real and that only the British invaded us but fact remains that both Arabs and the British irreparably damaged our country. I was taught to read and write arabic at the age of 6 by an ustad who would pinch my arm for every little mistake. so hard that it would bleed but I wasn't allowed to cry or complain because I'm learning a "holy language". At the age where I should've been eating mud, I learnt to hide my pain and smile. You tell us to learn your superior godly language and visit your godly worship site in Saudi Arabia and I'm supposed to pretend that shit is not imperialism?
I know face covering is a part of arab culture that's exactly why I tagged this as #arab imperialism ? I don't care about your culture. Just don't force that shit on us.
And I did not cherry pick pictures of women without head coverings tf ☠️ are you blind? there's like 5 or 6 women in that picture with head coverings.
Edit: also the implication that most people here wear jeans and t shirts ☠️ girl literally 95% of the non-Muslim women around me wear sarees and churidhars. there's women that wear jeans and t shirts but they get shamed for it. And the women that wear them do not stop wearing traditional clothes either. Even in my age group most girls wear churidhars.
the crazy thing to me is that the gender equality warriors who shit their pants if you say men are overwhelmingly more likely to harm women than women are to harm men are also very frequently the same people who suck themselves off about how drag queens never molest children whenever they see a piece on sexual abuse in the news
i just think it displays a general inability to name the problem. by claiming it’s conservative men rather than admitting that it’s all men, this archetype of person can shift the blame onto Them. so they can more or less avoid confronting how thoroughly society is permeated with male perversion and violence against women, effectively moving it to a mysterious third space that they and their male companions don’t inhabit. it’s similar to guys who say “men don’t abuse their wives only BOYS would do something like that” like hmmmm kind of obfuscating the facts of the matter here aren’t we
bisexual actress amber heard was abused by her straight husband johnny depp in such a way that directly correlates to her sexuality. he alienated her from her lesbian/bi friends, tried to control when/if she saw them, and attempted to control her access to her community. his abuse was absolutely very very heavily rooted in biphobic misogyny. her bisexuality is a major and important aspect of the conversation of her abuse.
feminist killjoy hours again, what the actual fuck is “weird girl literature” and how often do we acquiesce to the latest degrading gendered advertising campaigns
Women did not fucking pioneer horror, thriller, and science fiction as we know it for publishing to infantilize it into a high school phase
is Stephen king “weird boy literature”? Or does he get to be an adult horror novelist?
Most “weird girl literature” is about neurodivergent young women becoming prostitutes and loving it.
Oh my god fuck off you brainrotted Jordan Peterson soundalike
You are welcome to go back to read “Shy Girl,” about a neurodivergent woman becoming a prostitute, or “The Hop,” about a neurodivergent woman becoming a prostitute.
But your hatred for women and worship for men tells me you much, much prefer badly written crap such as “Manhunt,” a novel in which men are aggressors because of a virus but it is the women who defend themselves who must be murdered as violently as possible.
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feminist killjoy hours again, what the actual fuck is “weird girl literature” and how often do we acquiesce to the latest degrading gendered advertising campaigns
Women did not fucking pioneer horror, thriller, and science fiction as we know it for publishing to infantilize it into a high school phase
is Stephen king “weird boy literature”? Or does he get to be an adult horror novelist?
Most “weird girl literature” is about neurodivergent young women becoming prostitutes and loving it.
why are these the only options
