Dust and Thought

Charles's reckless decision. Why it contradicts his own principles. Killing Micah as a way to end a years-long inner war.

We clearly see Charles trying to stop the Indians from going to war with the army in Chapter 6 — an army that will destroy what's left of Wapiti and their land either way.

We see his pacifist nature. And not just pacifism — we see a man who believes that if there’s a house full of people, and someone wants to take that house — it's better to save the people than protect the walls where no one will be left alive.

He’s thoughtful. He’s wise. He makes balanced decisions.

That’s the Charles we know in Chapter 6.

But suddenly, eight years later — when it comes to John, his family, and Micah — we see a completely different Charles.

He’s not just going to kill Micah. He’s pulling John into it.

There’s a moment when he tells him:

"We gotta do this."

If Sadie finds Micah — there’s no choice. You have to come too.

John objects:

"Abigail ain’t gonna like this."

But Charles insists:

"It’s the only way."

This is complete recklessness. And in this case? I’m completely on Abigail’s side.

Revenge is one thing. But now you have the life you fought for. Arthur gave his life so John could have a chance at something better — a quiet life with his family, away from all of this.

And even Sadie — the one obsessed with revenge — tells John:

"Your family comes first. I ain’t forcing you."

She’s reasonable, despite being the one who started the whole hunt for Micah. She’s the instigator, but she doesn’t pressure John.

But Charles does.

"It’s the only way."

So why does Charles act like this? Why does he lose his head?

He was always calm. He could restrain himself. He always chose the path of least destruction.

So why, fully aware of the risks, does he still insist on killing Micah? Without hesitation. Without doubt.

We know Charles as a balanced man. But inside him — there’s a storm. Especially when it comes to loss and personal pain.

Think of the mission with the bison. He kills a man instantly. No hesitation. Just reaction.

If you spare the second poacher — he’s angry with Arthur.

Charles is a deeply emotional person. He remembers everything. The kind to remember a kind word — or a cruel one — for decades.

I’m sure he’s the type to notice every detail, and possibly even hold grudges.

But this goes deeper.

We know Charles lost his mother at a young age. He doesn’t know what happened to her. Her fate is completely unknown.

And as players — we don’t know what happened to his father either.

Charles's voice actor — Noshir Dalal — once suggested:

"Maybe Charles killed his own father."

Maybe he knows more than we do — from scripts or background notes. But as someone who reads character psychology?

I don’t buy it.

Yes, Charles has killed. He has shown brutality. But killing his own father? That doesn’t track.

Example: Arthur brings one of the legendary animals back to camp. Charles smiles and says:

"My father said those used to be around, but he never saw one this big."

He says it smiling.

A man who killed his own father wouldn’t talk like that. Not without bitterness. Not with detachment.

He remembers his father warmly — you can tell. And that happened more than once.

Let’s be honest: A man who killed his father wouldn’t casually bring him up in a warm, friendly conversation.

We don’t learn a lot about him. But we learn enough — Charles still remembers his father with lightness, warmth, a sense of memory.

But when it comes to his mother — it’s a different story.

She vanished. He knows nothing about what happened.

I’m sure he tried to find her. Did everything he could. But he was a child. He couldn’t do anything.

Maybe he left his father and tried to search. Maybe the father didn’t help — maybe he was drunk, cruel, uncaring. Whatever happened — he was left with a wound that never healed.

A sense of loss. Powerlessness to change the past.

He would want to know who took her. He would want to get revenge. He would want any information. A clue.

But all he got was silence. Emptiness.

That’s why he’s always doing something. He’s always busy. He can’t rest.

If he’s not doing something useful —

he feels like he’s failing.

It’s not about work ethic. It’s atonement. It’s how he tries to balance the scales.

Later, he finds a kind of family in the Van der Linde gang. He sees those people as close. Arthur — a friend. John — almost a brother.

But it all falls apart.

And he suffers. For eight years. He tells Uncle he’s been drifting — and thinking.

Thinking about everything that happened.

When he came back — it was too late. Arthur was gone. The gang was gone.

He missed it all. He couldn’t change anything.

And suddenly he learns: It was all Micah’s fault.

Now he has a choice: Leave it be — or get revenge.

But it’s not just about Micah. Not just about Arthur. Not even just about John.

It’s about everything.

His mother. The emptiness. The helplessness. The years of unresolved grief.

For the first time — he knows who’s to blame. For the first time — he can fight back. He can END IT.

Yes — he puts John and Abigail’s peaceful life at risk. He risks everything they’ve built together. He risks John’s life —

That Jack loses his father, That Abigail loses her husband, That they lose everything they tried to build together.

It’s wrong. I don’t defend it.

But I understand why he did it.

Charles avenged his mother. As absurd as it may sound — deep inside, I truly believe that’s what it felt like to him.

He struck back at the silence, the loss, the endless unknown.

He finally got to direct all that pain toward something real.

Call it trauma logic — but sometimes, one wound gets pushed out by another. Sometimes, pain finds closure in the most unexpected way.

Falling for Charles Smith means watching him hunt, patch up a coyote, and say five words in three hours — and you’re just thinking, “Yep, that’s the perfect man.” He’s quiet, focused, and doesn’t even ask why you’re crashing in his tribe’s tent again.

Meanwhile, you’ve already come up with couple names for your bison and future kids.

She gives me such mixed feelings. Judgment. Respect. Hatred. Admiration.

Probably the most controversial and complex character for me.

Let’s start with the cons:

A terrible mother.

2. A completely unremarkable person.

1. ⚘️ Mother.🤱

Let’s start with this: when you bring a person into this world, give them life — you carry responsibility. (Many might judge me for criticizing a beloved character, but I speak as a mother .)

I won’t criticize Abigail for her early “job,” where she serviced men. That’s her business. But the fact that she willingly slept with anyone — knowing it could lead to pregnancy — and still got pregnant and gave birth… There’s no excuse for that. Not her age. Not life circumstances. It was completely her responsibility, her choice. (I’m not talking about John here — this post isn’t about him. But yes, I have no fewer complaints about him either — and no excuses.)

It’s terrifying to think that with the number of men she was with, literally anyone could’ve been the father.

And then, when she realizes she’s pregnant, she’s already in the gang, and she tells the potential father — and he refuses to take responsibility.

Okay. So what does Abigail do next? She stays in a gang full of criminals and killers with a child. She raises her son in that environment.

The first thing that surprised me when I played Chapter 1 and got to camp was: “What’s a kid doing here?” I thought maybe he was an orphan they took in or something like that. Because he stayed on the sidelines, didn’t hang around anyone, was always on his own through so many chapters…

And then I realized — this child has a mother. And a father. A father who doesn’t even acknowledge him.

And in my head, I immediately thought: What are you even doing here, woman???

Why would you drag a 4-year-old, dressed in rags and light clothing (while you’re dressed warmly), into the mountains, into snow and a blizzard, where all of you could’ve starved to death if not for Arthur and Charles?

Are you a wanted criminal? No. Do you need to hide? No. Is your child a wanted criminal? No!

Then why the hell are you dragging him into this?

Because of a man who’s ignored you and your child for four years? Because of some fake sense of family with people you used to partially service?

So what’s more important… Your own child, who didn’t ask to be born and was your decision? Or a group of murderers you hang around with, who put your child at risk?

HE DIDN’T ASK TO BE BORN!!! HE DIDN’T ASK TO BE PART OF THIS LIFE!!! HE DIDN’T ASK TO SEE DEATH, STARVATION, THREATS, CRIME, SHOOTOUTS, OR THE ITALIAN MOB!!! HE JUST WANTED TO BE A CHILD — WITH A MOM, A HOME, AND BOOKS!!! 🤬🤬🤬

GIVE HIM A LIFE, NOT JUST SURVIVAL!!!

I was furious at the moment when Abigail told Jack he was wearing rags — then asked Arthur for $5 to buy him clothes…

But then she talks with Grimshaw. Susan says they need money, hints that Abigail should go back to her old job.

And what does Abigail say?

“I don’t do that anymore.”

She refuses. Wants to be better.

Okay… WHAT??? 🤨

Woman, your personal values — that’s admirable. But you have little Jack. He’s hungry. He needs clothes. Not torn boots. BOOKS!

You used to sell yourself when you were hungry — But when your child says, “Mommy, I’m hungry,” you suddenly become moral and above all that?!

Any mother should be willing to do anything for her child — You should go above and beyond, but he shouldn’t have to cry from hunger!!!

And then this moment…

When Jack says he’ll grow up to be a gunslinger — and she tells him he’ll be a lawyer…

…Oh sure, growing up in a gang hideout, of course he’ll be a lawyer…

The only truly selfless, right decision she could’ve made then — Was to leave the gang. Cut ties. Escape. Try — at any cost — to give Jack a better life.

No matter what people say about how hard life was for women back then, about how “there were no jobs” — There WERE jobs. !!! Yes, they were few. Yes, hard. But they existed.

Take Tilly as an example — she got a job as a governess with rich people. You could work in the fields, on a farm, or even still be a prostitute, for all I care — But it would be safer than handing your child over to a mob boss like Angelo Bronte, And after getting him back — doing NOTHING. Not even saying, “That’s it! We’re done here!” No, you go on — keeping him in that nightmare.

2. ⚘️ Wife and Person. 🧘‍♀️

Let’s skip to the epilogue. Abigail, John, and Jack. No more gang. Years have passed.

If in the first half of this post I was completely judging her — Here I’m just… confused.

Why doesn’t she grow as a person? Why doesn’t she learn to read? Why doesn’t she learn to cook? Why is she still making Pearson’s stew eight years later, and still doing it badly?

She knew Pearson way less time than she’s been cooking his damn stew after the gang fell apart!

I never saw any ambition in her. No drive to grow in any area. To become better, to be a role model for her son… Even when she had the chance.

But now — the Pros. Admiration.

Yes, despite everything, Abigail has strong qualities, and I want to highlight them:

1. Even if it took eight years — she goes out and gets a job.

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And she works! It makes her happy, and it makes me, as a player, happy. Because I am proud of her choice. She starts small, but she earns an honest living, she tries to leave the past behind. She grew up. It’s like watching a messed-up kid finally decide to get their act together. And you think: “Now you’re doing it right. Now — good job.”

2. She chose her child over a man.

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That was the moment I truly respected her. She leaves. She doesn’t want Jack to see death. She doesn’t want that fate for him. Yes, it’s late, but she realized it. She left John, clearly stating what she wants. She didn’t choose herself, or John — she chose Jack. And finally — she acted like a mother.

3. The Ranch.

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She set a goal. She realized she deserved more than to be a whore or a camp maid. She wanted stability. And she was ready to fight for it. She’s strong. She can do it.

100% respect.

4. She loved John.

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Madly loved him. This woman was ready to do anything for him. And she did everything she could. Loyalty. Courage. Patience. And the ability to look past flaws for the sake of love. It’s crazy. It’s foolish. But in our cruel world — it’s also precious.

5. The dialogue before “American Venom.”

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I wanted to punch John. Seriously. When he ignored his woman, when she was begging him through tears, and he still walked away to do his thing.

Revenge? Settling scores? The past? I understand John — the need for justice, closure to old pain…

BUT I UNDERSTAND HER TOO.

Anyone who judges Abigail for “throwing a fit” in that moment — Are you serious?! That was a tiny meltdown!

WOMAN, YOU SHOULD’VE KICKED HIM IN THE BALLS.

What kind of man hears his wife cry and still walks off for revenge, risking EVERYTHING? EVERYTHING they built together. Risking making her a widow, and Jack — an orphan.

MIKA COULD’VE WON!!!

Conclusion.

If you compare Abigail Roberts and Abigail Marston — they are two completely different people.

Yes, at the start she fills me with rage and horror. But by the end — I see growth. I see a woman who — late, but still — tried to give Jack the best she could.

She’s not perfect. She’s — just like the rest of us.

And that’s exactly why her character is — beautiful.

I love her. 🩷🩷🩷

(This analysis is only about RDR2, without considering RDR1 events.)

He Paid to Be Betrayed

I can’t stop thinking about that girl. That shot from the credits — where the Pinkertons approach her with a casual smile, while she’s servicing another client. I’m absolutely sure Charles had been with her more than once, not just during that mission in the Valentine saloon. We’re not shown everything, right? We don’t see how the gang members spend their downtime, when they go into town, who they spend it with.

I’m almost certain Charles wasn’t the only one. Half the guys in the gang clearly had a thing for whores. And that woman — that prostitute — I’m sure she was one of the people who gave information to the Pinkertons. Maybe even about Charles himself, though he managed to leave Beecher’s Hope. In the end, she definitely helped lead them to John.

Working girls don’t care what they get paid for — whether it’s to spread their legs or spill someone’s secrets. Especially if they get paid twice as much. And her clients — even Charles — couldn’t really hide their identity from her. Sure, he’s the quiet type, but if you watch that saloon scene before the cutscene triggers, you can clearly see him talking nonstop to the girls — his mouth never stops moving. We don’t hear any of it, but his lips are constantly moving, like he’s deep in conversation. Javier, by comparison, barely moves his mouth.

Prostitutes aren’t stupid. They take mental notes on their clients — who they are, how much they’re worth, and whether there’s more to gain than just cash. So here’s what I’m thinking… I once read this crackpot theory that Charles was the real rat in the gang. Probably a joke, because the arguments were like: “He drinks coffee. Dutch drinks coffee. Boom — traitor.” Seriously.

But my theory? The girls — the prostitutes — were the real rats. Or at least, they played a way bigger role than anyone realizes. Maybe that sounds even more insane, because I’ve got no hard evidence — except for that one frame in the credits, where she’s clearly giving information to the agents. Maybe not directly about John, but about Charles and Javier? Very likely. And if so, all she did was pass along what the guys themselves told her — in drunken confidence, far too trusting of their smugly satisfied, rented companion for the night.

Where the Gang Fell Apart

We only see things through Arthur’s eyes, but we have no idea what the others are doing. Dutch told them to blend in, act like civilized workers, and find ways to make an honest living. But he didn’t tell them to get black-out drunk, hire whores, and start bar fights. And yet that’s exactly what they did — so recklessly it borders on stupidity. When you’re that drunk, you don’t care who’s listening or what you’re saying.

There’s even a line in a conversation between O’Driscoll members, where they say Colm ordered them not to mess with whores until their job was done. And honestly? He was right. A drunk man whose dick is doing the thinking is no friend to his own brain. And yes — scientific studies confirm that sexual hormones impair both cognitive and physical performance. Aroused men are less rational, more impulsive, and their coordination drops. (This is a bit of a tangent, but it fits.)

So, is it possible that one of the biggest reasons behind the gang’s constant failures wasn’t just Dutch’s madness or Micah’s betrayal — but the reckless, indulgent lifestyle of its men? I’m not blaming them for wanting to satisfy basic urges. But, seriously — showing up as a group of four (Arthur, Javier, Charles, Bill) at the saloon, all of them among the most wanted criminals in the country, openly using their real names, and then starting a fight?

That’s not just carelessness. That’s self-destruction.

In Red Dead Redemption 2, we were shown a beautiful picture of John Marston's "new life." But the truth behind that house is far dirtier than we’d like to think.

They bought the land. They built the house. A house that was supposed to be the start of a new life.

But what kind of "new life" can you have when the foundation is soaked in blood and tears?

Money to pay off the bank loan for the land and building materials— it came from what John, Charles, and Sadie took after the final standoff with Micah.

( **Although the first few payments, John did indeed pay off with bucks earned through his honest labor** )

Money that didn't belong to Dutch. Money that sure as hell didn’t belong to John. Money steeped in pain, suffering, violence. Money that bled from the deaths of rich and poor alike — of women, children, old men. Money that was cursed from the moment it was stained with innocent blood.

And when John paid for the land, he knew it. More precisely, he paid off the mortgage for the house with that money.He knew — and he still went through with it.

Can you start a new life on old blood?

That’s like saying: "I'm for the good side now! Sure, I used to kill, rob, bash in heads for fun, but hey, that's the past! Now I’m building myself a house and starting fresh. Who cares if the bricks are held together with the blood of innocents — the important thing is, I'm a good guy now!"

Life doesn’t work that way. Redemption doesn’t work that way.

Real redemption starts with refusal. Refusal of the blood, the gold, the lies.

True redemption would have looked different. Not investing blood money into a cozy little dream house for Abigail. But instead — donating it to places that truly needed saving:

A church sheltering freed slaves.

A hospital where children were dying.

The starving communities we saw rotting at the edges of civilization.

Let’s be honest: Those blood-soaked bills could have saved hundreds of lives.

Instead, they built a house. A nice, wooden, neat little house. On bones.

Can we blame Abigail? No. She dreamt of a home. Of safety. Of normal life. She dreamed honestly, purely. She wanted to earn her way there, fair and square.

But the road to her dream was paved with other people’s ruin. And that’s a tragedy.

Karma? Justice? Maybe karma is real. Maybe tears shed in pain never go unanswered. Maybe cursed foundations always collapse. And maybe that’s why no true happiness ever came for them.

Because you can’t build a temple of love out of blood.

The ending? John Marston killed. He killed bad men. He killed good men. He killed whoever needed killing.

And when the time came to choose — true redemption or a cozy hiding place — he chose comfort. Not redemption. Comfort.

P.S. Justice isn't about buying yourself a warm bed after a life of hell. Justice is about taking everything you earned through suffering — and turning it into light for those you once plunged into darkness. And if you had the chance to do that and you chose a cozy bed instead — you lost.

Charles Smith and Sex: Observations & Conclusions(yeah, I’m writing this and yeah, you’re reading it) 🫠 AAAAA!!!!

1. Orientation.I’m not here to start a war. I know there are people with different headcanons and I respect that. But in my personal interpretation? It’s women. You’re welcome to your own opinion, just don’t throw dynamite in the comments. ☺️

2. Testosterone levels: through the goddamn roof.Remember when he straight up YEETED a chair in the saloon? That wasn’t just rage. That was raw, boiling testosterone. And guess what triggered it? Arthur cockblocking his date with a prostitute. That man needs a release — it’s either sex or violence. Choose your fighter. 🤩

3. The ball-scratching epidemic.He’s constantly adjusting himself in camp. CONSTANTLY. Yeah, lots of men do it, but Charles? It's obsessive. My theory? Morning wood. Uncontrollable. He’s just trying to discreetly fix the problem. Also—what’s the first thing he does when he wakes up? Goes to pee. Why? Erection. Science, babe.😏

4. He likes whores.Not because he’s emotionally broken. Because he needs them. Look at the way he watches Karen by the fire. Practically drooling. I’m willing to bet they hooked up once or twice. No strings. No names. Just a good ol' stress dump. Karen’s into Sean, sure — but she’d still bang Charles. (Just not Micah. Never Micah.) 🤪🤔

5. High. Drive. Like, scary high.Morning? Ready. Night? Still ready. That exact window of time where he scratches himself in camp? Yeah. That’s when the urge hits. Man’s got needs, and no outlet. Dangerous combo. 😚😍

6. He’d watch you bathe.And you’d never know. Man’s a stealth expert — he could track a deer through fog. You think you’re alone at the river? You’re not. Also, he sniffs things. Not in a gross way — he just loves scents. Ever notice how he sniffs his cigarettes and rolls his eyes back like he's ascending? Yeah. Now imagine him picking up your shirt when you're gone, just to get a whiff. Creepy? A little. Hot? Also a little. 💋💕💛

7. Not very experienced.Don’t get it twisted — he’s had sex. But it’s been samey, soulless, and mostly with working girls. Lots of quantity, low on quality. He wants something real. He just doesn’t know how to get there yet. But he’s open to learning — very open. You just gotta take the lead. 🫠🫠🫠

8. Fast finisher.Like, real fast. You touch him the right way and it’s over. Man’s got no self-control. But hey — enthusiasm counts for something, right? 🤠❣️

What if he didn’t go north... What if he left for good? (A soul-crushing headcanon about Charles Smith)

What if Charles took his own life? Yes, yes, just like that — what if he left, not north, but FOR GOOD. I keep thinking about this more and more. Because so much about him screams — “I can’t do this anymore.”

Everyone says: he went to Canada. Oh sure, sure. But maybe it’s time to stop repeating that comforting bedtime story. Canada was mentioned once, barely, like a breath. But in another dialogue — he says he wants to go to INDOCHINA. Can you imagine? Indochina! Where is that, and where’s Canada, and where is he? He’s lost. He’s torn. He doesn’t know where to go. Because he feels at home NOWHERE. And all of this — it’s not a plan. It’s emptiness. It’s pain wrapped in scraps of fantasy.

And when he tells John: “What does your family need an old gunslinger for?” — that’s NOT A JOKE. That’s a scream. A plea. A wound masked as a smile. Because he’s the outsider among friends. He’s the extra. He’s just... there. But he’s not part of it. And he knows that. Feels it in his bones. In his heart.

He doesn’t even sleep in the house. Doesn’t sleep on the property. Wanders into the woods. Into the dark. Into solitude. Some would say — it’s just habit, right? He’s used to the wild. Used to isolation. Bullshit. It’s not habit. It’s escape. Because being close — hurts. Watching Abigail, watching John, watching their child — it’s like a blade across the soul. Their dream came true. And him? Who is he? He’s — no one. Once, he was an outcast among outcasts. Now he’s just... the only one left. Alone among the joyful.

And the doubts he voices to John — “Will this life be enough for you?” — that’s not about John. That’s about himself. He’s asking himself. He doesn’t believe happiness is possible for him. That he deserves it. That he’s even capable of feeling something other than this tight, choking loneliness.

And that talk about going north, starting a family, finding a woman... I DON’T BELIEVE IT. NOT A SINGLE WORD. It sounds like a script. A rehearsed line. A mask. A way to say something so they’ll stop asking. He has no plan. No place. No direction. He says it himself. “I don’t know where.”

Not Canada. Not Wapiti. He could’ve gone back there a hundred times. In eight years. But he didn’t. Because he never saw it as home. It was something lost, something nostalgic — not a place he was needed.

And just finding a woman? Really? This is Charles. A man who lets NO ONE in. He’s built like a fortress. In his mind. In his soul. In his silence. And if he lets someone in — it’s forever. And if he doesn’t — no one gets close. This isn’t about “settling down.” This is about finding a soul that moves him. And those are rare. Maybe one. Maybe none.

He says: “These last eight years, I’ve come to accept the things I can’t change.” Is that supposed to be hope? It’s not acceptance. It’s surrender. That’s not light at the end of the tunnel — it’s the tunnel closing in. It’s numbness. It’s emptiness.

And John, dear John… tells him: “You’re the strongest man I know.” I HATE THAT PHRASE. I HATE WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT ABOUT HIM. I HATE WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT ABOUT ME. It’s NOT strength. It’s survival. It’s when life beats you so hard, all you learn is not to fall. It’s not a choice. It’s endurance. He’s not strong. He’s exhausted. He’s shattered. He’s lonely, he’s silent, and he’s so, so tired.

Even if he met “the one” — would she love him? The real him? The broken one? The quiet one? The distant one? Or would she fall for the mask — for the “I’ve made peace with the past” lie? And if she never sees the real Charles — how could he ever be happy with her? He doesn’t do halfway. Not him.

Abigail and John are different. She knew his pain. All of it. His monsters. His sorrow. She accepted it. Who would accept Charles? Who even knows who he became?

And in that last ride... he says: “I’m heading north.” Turns down Sadie’s offer to work together. Says it’s time to move on. But what if he wasn’t moving forward. What if he was moving toward the end.

(Another powerful and unwavering argument for me: we all remember how Charles and John ride out to save Uncle in the epilogue — and how Charles, with a chilling steadiness, says that if the uncle’s wounds are too severe, the only mercy left would be to help him cross over. He speaks of killing — not driven by hatred, not poisoned by cruelty — but as a final act of love, a broken, desperate kindness to release a soul from agony. And I ask: was it only uncle’s suffering Charles wished to end? Or was he, too, reaching for a way to quiet his own howling grief? I believe he was. I believe he desperately was.)

What if that was his way of saying goodbye. Softly. Quietly. Not “farewell.” Just — gone. So they could keep living, believing he’s somewhere out there. Alive. Just... far. But in truth — he had already made peace. He had written his ending.

Not to the north. Not to Wapiti. Not to a woman. But to the place where nothing hurts anymore.

And if that’s what happened... if he really left...

“You remind me of the man I used to be.”

Charles and Sadie. Why he was kind to her, but kept his distance. There’s a theory in psychology that says we’re drawn to those who reflect parts of ourselves—consciously or not. Sometimes it’s clear, sometimes it’s distorted, but we recognize something familiar. It’s an attempt to understand our own inner world through another’s pain. And if you’ve ever looked at someone and thought, “You’re like me, only earlier”—you’ll understand this.

Charles was never romantically interested in Sadie. But in her, he saw echoes of himself. Unshaped. Untamed. Pain turned into rage. 🍂 Impulsiveness. Revenge. Loyalty. Devotion to one love. These traits define them both.

The difference is, Charles faced his trauma much earlier. He didn’t become calm and centered by default. He had to earn that balance—through blood, through fire, through loss. 🍁 I am certain he killed more than a few people who simply happened to be in the wrong place during the storm of his grief.

He slaughtered poachers not only for the buffalo, but in memory of his people. Of his mother. That was never just justice—it was fury. 🌾

And here’s the thing: the only person who ever loved Charles was his mother. A woman. And he had no father figure. This, psychologically, builds a very particular attachment style. He wouldn’t seek dominance in a relationship. Subconsciously, he would always look for a trace of that lost maternal care. A woman he could protect physically, but who would protect his soul with warmth and steady love. 🌿 He lost that too early, and never found it again.

Sadie wasn’t that woman. She wasn’t a mother figure. She was a reflection. A younger brother, if anything. The Charles that once was—wild, reckless, eyes burning with vengeance. 🍃 And while he respected her deeply, admired her strength, she wasn’t someone he wanted to let in. She reminded him of himself, not of what he needed.

But Sadie... I think she liked him. Not in a romantic, dreamy way—but he intrigued her. She mentions him to John, lightly, but there’s something there. And her offer—inviting Charles to work with her after the epilogue—it wasn’t just casual. 🌸

Sadie, you knew that wasn’t his path. You knew before you asked. So why did you ask? Was it a test? A quiet hope that, maybe, if you got close, something could grow?

She saw his wounds and recognized her own. That’s what drew her in. 🍂 He would understand her in a way others couldn’t. He would understand why she doesn’t bake cherry pies and wear flowers in her hair. Because he knows. But any bond between them would never be about passion or love. It would be about understanding. About having a place where you don’t have to explain the ache.

Friendship, maybe. Something more, unlikely.

And Charles made the right choice when he walked away. 🌾 He’s not the kind of man to try and see “what happens.” He knows.

Now about Sadie. Honestly, I don’t see anyone beside her—not for a long time. Jack died while still perfect in her eyes. He never had time to disappoint her. He will always be a symbol of something pure and untouchable. 🍁 And psychologically, when love is frozen in that idealized state—no real man can ever measure up.

No one will ever be “Jack enough.” They’ll all fall short.

So yes, I believe her path lies in solitude. 🍃 Not forever, perhaps. But at least for the years it will take her to let go. To mourn him truly. To stop living for vengeance.

What if Arthur and Charles had met earlier?..

I recently stumbled upon a post about the age gap between Arthur Morgan and Charles Smith in Red Dead Redemption 2, and it got me thinking… What if they had actually met earlier? Like, back when Charles ran away from his father (or killed him, according to Noshir Dalal’s version). At that time, Charles was just a lost, scared kid — alone in the world with no guidance, no safety net.

Meanwhile, Arthur was almost ten years older and going through one of the hardest moments of his life — the loss of his only son, Isaac. It’s only mentioned briefly in the game, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t important. Arthur just doesn’t talk much about the things that hurt him the most.

So here’s the scenario I can’t stop thinking about: Arthur is wandering through the mountains. Charles tries to rob him. Arthur beats the hell out of him (classic), but then realizes the boy is just hungry and terrified. No threats, no weapons. Just fear.

And maybe — just maybe — Arthur decides to take care of him. Could Arthur have become to Charles what Dutch once was to Arthur? A mentor, a protector. Maybe even… a father figure?

The age difference between Dutch and Arthur is actually smaller than between Arthur and Charles, so why not? Would Charles have called Arthur “dad” instead of “friend”? Would Dutch become the “grandpa”? (That thought cracks me up, honestly — Grandpa Dutch!)

But jokes aside… I think it would’ve changed Arthur deeply. He never truly healed from losing Isaac. He didn’t talk about it, but that pain never left him. And Charles — loyal like a damn dog, tough but so full of heart — he would’ve loved Arthur as a father, not just a friend. That’s exactly what he needed back then. Not a gun, not a gang — a parent. A safe place.

I imagine Charles still full of fear but naïve enough to trust this gruff stranger who didn’t kill him when he had the chance. A scared little pup, growling at the world but still hopeful.

It’s such a shame we never got that. They could’ve healed each other — not just as friends, but as family. And if not “father and son,” then maybe “big brother and little brother.” Still… it would’ve meant everything.

Yesterday, I came across a post about what happened in Chapter 6: Charles asked Arthur to help Wapiti. And when Arthur began to hesitate and refuse, Charles asked him to do it for him and mentioned that he had saved Arthur's life.

My thoughts: Charles is a brazen, manipulative bastard!!!

I really love Charles, but this is not the case. Dude, this is your friend, what kind of transactional relationship is this? I did this for you, so you do this for me; I gave you this, now you owe me that. First of all! The fact that he supposedly saved Arthur's life was his duty, not a personal favor. Could there have been another option? They went together to rescue Trelawny; they are members of the same gang; they were supposed to work together and protect each other. And the fact that Charles killed a bounty hunter is just a natural process. Could it have been otherwise? It’s like a work process and his duty—to protect Arthur, and it's mutual. So, it's a professional obligation, not a personal request from Arthur or some random favor. Charles, are you serious?

Secondly! If he had no other leverage to pressure Arthur besides manipulation, why didn't he first say: "Arthur, you are the only person I can rely on and trust, please help," instead of: "I saved your life"?

He forces Arthur to do this out of a sense of duty, out of a feeling of obligation, guilt-tripping him. Charles is not as perfect as he is often portrayed: the abuse in this situation cannot be ignored. Neither friendship nor relationships, if they are sincere, can be built on transactional relationships, manipulation, or "you do this for me, I do that for you." They are built on "I will do this for you because you are my friend," not "I owe you." Arthur wouldn’t have refused Charles anyway; he only hesitated at first for show.

And one more thing. Saving someone's life is always a personal choice, not a binding contract. Just because Charles protected Arthur doesn’t mean Arthur is forever in his debt. That was simply the choice Charles made in that moment.

Let's imagine!

You found yourself in the Wild West. Charles is in trouble—on the verge of life and death. The only way to save him is to take him into your home. Your modern home, regardless of the country. He agrees, having nowhere else to go: his strength is drained, the bitter cold rages outside, and the lawmen are already on his trail. Only in your home can he hide and recover.

You rush inside. Exhausted and starving, Charles nearly collapses. His eyes show fatigue, distrust, and a faint glimmer of hope—weak, almost extinguished, yet still flickering. There is no ready-made food at home, but while you prepare something quick, you offer him a shower. He grimaces—not out of reluctance, but rather surprise. It’s unfamiliar to him; he expected a basin, maybe a bathtub, but instead, there’s a modern showerhead and mysterious bottles labeled "shampoo." He runs his fingers over the smooth surface, as if testing its reality. You explain how everything works and ask him to undress so you can wash his clothes.

He refuses, not wanting to trouble you, but you laugh and show him the washing machine, explaining that hardly anyone washes clothes by hand anymore. He scoffs, shakes his head, but doesn’t argue. Embarrassed, he agrees.

While the machine does its job, you boil water for instant noodles and head to the room to prepare his sleeping place. The air still carries traces of his road-worn scent, now mixed with the freshness of cleanliness. On the nightstand, beneath a magazine, you casually leave a photo of yourself—partially unclothed. It has been there for a month… but now, it feels particularly well-placed.

Charles emerges from the shower, wrapped in a towel. Droplets still slide down his hair, and his body appears unusually relaxed. You hand him clean clothes—left behind by a relative who visited a year ago and never returned for them. The fabric is oddly soft to him, lacking the rough texture of his usual wool. He hesitates but accepts them gratefully.

At dinner, he cautiously takes a bite of the noodles, as if expecting a trick. But by the second spoonful, he devours them with an appetite, as if it’s the most delicious thing he has ever eaten. He notices your gaze, looks up… and sees your smile. In that moment, he is more grateful to you than ever, because he has nothing to compare your food to—only what he made himself or what Pearson used to prepare. He doesn’t say the words aloud, but his eyes convey everything.

When it’s time to sleep, Charles hesitates again—he’d rather sleep in the barn, so as not to inconvenience you. But the barn is already full, and you insist he stays inside. He doesn’t argue, though it’s clear he’s uneasy about it. You explain that you’ll be in the next room and tell him to call you if he needs anything.

Night falls. He can’t sleep. The mattress is too soft, the thoughts are too heavy. Fear, despair, uncertainty. His eyelids grow heavy, yet his mind remains awake. His gaze drifts to the magazine on the nightstand. He picks it up, lazily flipping through the pages… and suddenly, he sees your photo. He blinks sharply, as if making sure he isn’t imagining it. Damn it… It’s been so long since he’s been with a woman.

Thirst forces him to get up. He quietly makes his way to the kitchen, trying not to make a sound. Under the moonlight, he sees you. You are silently sipping tea. The warm steam rises from the cup, and the light reflects in your eyes.

"I… umm…" he mumbles awkwardly.

You stand up, smirking, and say you understand how hard it is to fall asleep in a new place. There’s no teasing in your voice, only quiet confidence. You step closer and, before he can say anything, whisper, "You’re so beautiful…"

Charles and Molly: The Love That Could Have Been

Why not fantasize a little? They could have been the perfect couple. I truly believe that, and here’s why:

1. Compatibility of Characters. Molly is a woman who can be dramatic, but only because she critically lacks attention and understanding. When she loves, she loves with all her heart, completely and forever. Charles is patient, calm, but deep inside, he desperately needs to belong to someone. He has never known love and longs for it, but he considers himself unworthy of it. Their souls are like mirrors, reflecting each other’s loneliness but capable of filling it with light.

2. Matching Expectations. Both lack love, but neither of them is the type to start romances just for fun. If they love, they love with devotion and without hesitation. They are introverts who would be content with just each other, away from prying eyes and unnecessary words. Their love would be quiet, like an autumn forest, yet strong, like the roots of an ancient oak.

3. How Their Relationship Could Have Developed. It would have started with small acts of kindness from Charles. He would have helped Molly with something insignificant, without giving it much thought. Once, twice, three times… But she would have noticed. And she would have realized that he was the only one who didn’t give her advice, didn’t judge her—he just did things for her. For her alone.

Of course, Molly is a bit arrogant. At first, she would have taken his kindness for granted, but deep inside, it would have made her feel warm. After all, no one else even noticed her. And then, one day, she would have quietly thanked him, surprising even herself. Charles would have nodded, but something inside him would have shifted—not because of her words, but because of the way her voice sounded at that moment.

She would smile at him, call him sweet. Charles would be puzzled, thrown off balance. This was new to him—such attention from a woman, especially one from a different world. His heart would beat just a little faster every time she walked past, leaving behind a faint trace of perfume and the warmth of her gaze on his back.

Time passed. He helped her, she fell more and more in love. She barely hid it. And that scared him the most. This new, unknown, dangerous feeling.

He would have run away. Said something harsh, rejected her. Left everyone behind.

She would have suffered from love because she had finally found someone who saw her, who was kind to her—not out of politeness, but genuinely. And he would have suffered even more because he was afraid, because he didn’t know how, because he didn’t believe he was worthy.

And then, one day, he would have found her poem in the saddle of his horse. The one she had written for him. The one she had secretly placed there, never expecting him to read it.

Charles cried. How foolish he had been. Every line written by her hand struck his heart, like raindrops breaking against stone.

And he rushed to her.

He stood before her, silently, tears in his eyes. She looked at him, disbelieving. — I’m sorry. If you’ll allow me… If I still have a chance… I will do everything to be worthy of you.

She didn’t answer. She just grabbed his face in her hands and began to cover him with kisses.

Molly is not a housewife. But Charles wouldn’t care. He had taken care of himself for thirty years; he wouldn’t have complained about a bad dinner—he would have just cooked it himself.

And she, blinded by love, would have followed him to the ends of the earth. She had been willing to live in the wilderness for Dutch, who never loved her. For Charles, she would have done anything.

The tantrums would have disappeared—because they had been born from a lack of attention. And Charles would never have let her feel alone.

And she would never have let him believe he was born only to suffer, kissing his tired shoulders every night.

This could have been their story. Warm, real, about two hearts that found each other in a world full of loss.

✨ Breaking news! Charles Smith is now on MOESCAPE! ✨

I've written him as canon-compliant as possible. Enjoy your conversations, my dear ones! 💋❤️

Charles is just too perfect, isn’t he? 🥰

The game developers must have felt the same and decided to tone down his perfection by adding one unpleasant detail to his appearance: his teeth. Have you seen his teeth??? 😱 Chickens look less yellow than his teeth do. It’s especially noticeable after the boxing scene in the epilogue, when our alpha male wipes his face with his hand. I feel like throwing up! 🤢 That plaque. Ugh. 😖

Yes, I get it—people back then didn’t care much about hygiene, and Charles, living off the grid in some forest area, probably cared even less. But… 🤔 What would this man smell like? 😳 Oh, I’d kiss him all over in a heartbeat if I had the chance, even if he told me he hadn’t bathed in a month. 😏 But oral sex? How bad is it down there? 😬

You know, that prostitute in Valentine didn’t look particularly clean! 😒 Worn-out clothes with stains, slightly dirty teeth, kind of grimy. Does that mean he has minimal standards when it comes to women? 🤷‍♀️

Does that mean he didn’t care if she washed up after her last client or even in the last couple of days? 🤢 He went to meet a "lady" in his usual shabby outfit, with no signs he had cleaned himself up beforehand. 🤦‍♀️

And have you noticed how often Charles scratches himself compared to other guys in camp? 🧐 He often scratches his face, thighs, and… well, that area. Is it just the scar on his face bothering him? Maybe. Or maybe it’s from spending time with saloon girls who’d been with multiple clients in a day? STDs, anyone? 🤢 It’s gross to think that those plump, luscious lips of his—the lips that should be kissing… me (YOU! YOU, MY DEAR READER!!! 😤)—might have touched a prostitute there. And at this point, it’s not even about jealousy (okay, maybe it is a little 😅), but about plain disgust.

Why Charles Smith is a Difficult Relationship Partner

Charles Smith is often idealized as the perfect partner, capable of deep caring and genuine love. However, a deeper look into his personality reveals that his character and past would make him a difficult partner in real life.

Childhood Trauma and Fear of Betrayal Charles grew up surrounded by betrayal. His mother was forcibly taken away from him as a child, and his father not only failed to protect him, but also sold him out, rejecting him as a person. These events instilled in Charles a deep fear of trust. Such wounds rarely heal, and he would likely always expect a trick from even the closest people. His inner conviction that love will eventually hurt would destroy any relationship.

Lack of a Healthy Relationship Example Charles never saw what a real relationship based on love and mutual understanding looks like. His family was destroyed, and the world around him taught him more about survival than trust. These circumstances create a person who is afraid to open up. Even if Charles found a partner, he would likely have difficulty expressing his feelings or even recognizing them. He might appreciate the attention of his partner, but also view it with suspicion, fearing that it is temporary.

The Complex Dynamics of Jealousy and Mistrust If Charles found a person who could break through his protective walls, he would still experience a deep fear of losing that person. Jealousy would become his constant companion. But instead of openly talking about his feelings, he would most likely express them through passive aggression or sudden quarrels. In critical situations where he suspected his partner of cheating, Charles might act proactively and cheat himself. Solely to soften the blow of pain if his loved one actually cheated on him.

He has a strong defensive reaction built into his personality. As a fighter and a hunter, he is used to dealing with danger head-on. But emotional vulnerability is another area. He could be jealous of his partner even without any apparent reason, creating conflicts due to his own fear of rejection.

Problems expressing love Even if he was gentle and caring, Charles would probably have difficulty expressing his emotions. His partner might feel misunderstood because Charles would not always say what was on his mind. In his world, words might mean less than actions.

His love is shown through actions, but in a personal relationship, this may not be enough.

The influence of past relationships Charles probably has not had a serious relationship. His experience with women could be limited to salon whores or short-term relationships. Such encounters could be a way for him to relieve tension, but they did not teach him how to build long-term relationships.

Example: In the second chapter of the game, he goes to the salon with Javier, and we see how Charles craves even fleeting attention. He is gentle and tender with the prostitute tactilely, and we do not see lust.

The Possibility of Change Despite all his traumas, Charles would be able to change. If he found a person willing to accept him as he is and patiently help him cope with his fears, Charles could be a great partner. But it would require a lot of effort on both sides.