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The day I started posting about #;imperial chantry was the best day of my life.
Me realizing that Urian and Iron Bull are similar: Yikes Yikes Yikes
Meanwhile Urian will fuck nearly anyone if he thinks there’s specific personal or political benefit in it for him, specifically that he can use or otherwise manipulate someone by that method. (Make them fall in love with him and it’s an added benefit and leash.) He loves almost no one, however; you have to be someone he considers his equal for that, and really, he is too arrogant to consider many people his equal in any way.
Took me a little while but I finished this!

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most Chantry buildings, north and south, are cruciform in shape. (just like most cathedrals irl.) but more specifically, Chantries are shaped like the Sword of Mercy, blade and crossguard and hilt being, of course, cruciform as well.
in Tevinter, one major exception to this general rule is the Argent Spire itself, the seat of organized religion in the Imperium. that is because the Spire is actually an ancient building, pre-dating the rise of Andraste’s teachings, and was originally a temple to one of the Old Gods. (in personal headcanon, the temple of Dumat, specifically.)
fire, song, and the sun are three of the most important symbols of Andrastianism in both north and south, and all are part the symbols and forms of the rites of the religion as it is practiced today.
Tevinter chantries all maintain an eternal flame in braziers designed for the purpose; in many chantries, this brazier is contained in the cupped hand of a statue of Andraste herself. (she was a mage, after all; she could call fire and hold it, just thus.) the renewal of the eternal flame is part of a weekly ceremony, during which there are also prayers and sermons and the singing and interpretation of parts of the Chant. each chantry also boasts smaller braziers, usually positioned at the feet of statues of the Annointed (saints) wherein the faithful can burn small offerings of incense resins; and other braziers wherein they are meant to burn pieces of paper upon which they’ve written their sins, for cleansing thereof.
in the larger chantries, the Chant itself is sung throughout the daylight hours by priests dedicated to this task, serving in shifts so that the Maker’s word is always heard beneath the Maker’s sun. smaller chantries may not have the resources to sing the entire day, but will sing instead for the hour before and the hour after midday, when the sun is highest.
there are additional ceremonies held, in all chantries, at sunrise (Aurorae), sunset (Occasus), midday (Meridiani), and midnight. these consist of short prayers and readings, and the congregation is led in group song. generally speaking, the midnight ceremony, which is called Visitationes because it is meant to represent Andraste’s dream-visits to the Tevinters of old, is attended mostly by the priests themselves, and is kept particularly faithfully in the cloistered orders. the sole exception to this unofficial rule is during the holiday period of Visitations (Visitationes) itself, when all devout Tevinters are meant to keep this rite. (though not all do, and not all are, of course, particularly devout.)
listen i love and hate the Still Ruins. they’re so very Tevinter so i love them but also it’s just kind of the height of laziness to depict the time-frozen ancient Tevinters in the same exact sorts of robes as the modern Venatori spellbinders.
however – the Still Ruins predate the First Blight, of course, and one of the rooms you enter there is the Hall of Silence. Silence, of course, being a direct reference to Dumat. (god of silence, god of death.) and who was Corypheus in life, but the High Priest of Dumat? so (despite how easy it would have been to ever actually make this undisputed canon with a single throwaway line somewhere) it seems evident that perhaps the Venatori are intentionally and self-consciously dressing in the style of Corypheus’s time, back when he was human and mortal. they are Tevinter supremacists, after all, wanting to bring back an ancient glorious age of the Imperium; and they’re also a cult. so why not dress appropriately?
i might also go a little further with this and posit that because the timing is approximately correct, the connection between “hall of silence” and “god of silence” is there, and the nature of the experiment itself seems fitting, that sethius/ corypheus knew about and perhaps even had sponsored these researches, as part of the efforts to find a way to breach the fade and reach the golden city. the experiment was to gain power directly from the fade, and we know that breaching the fade took so much power, it would be something they’d very much like to discover... and otherwise, since no one ever knew what happened with this, and since it pre-dates the first blight, how did servis even know to be looking for things here? it holds together enough for a headcanon, i think.
so if that’s the case, and the mages here worked for Sethius... well it makes perfect sense that he’d have his Venatori dress the same way, right?
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listen i love and hate the Still Ruins. they’re so very Tevinter so i love them but also it’s just kind of the height of laziness to depict the time-frozen ancient Tevinters in the same exact sorts of robes as the modern Venatori spellbinders.
however -- the Still Ruins predate the First Blight, of course, and one of the rooms you enter there is the Hall of Silence. Silence, of course, being a direct reference to Dumat. (god of silence, god of death.) and who was Corypheus in life, but the High Priest of Dumat? so (despite how easy it would have been to ever actually make this undisputed canon with a single throwaway line somewhere) it seems evident that perhaps the Venatori are intentionally and self-consciously dressing in the style of Corypheus’s time, back when he was human and mortal. they are Tevinter supremacists, after all, wanting to bring back an ancient glorious age of the Imperium; and they’re also a cult. so why not dress appropriately?

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The first Chantry was, in fact, the Imperial Chantry. Tevinter converted to the Chant of Light, away from the worship of the Old Gods, during a period known as the Transfiguration. This was spearheaded by Archon Hessarian himself, who, wracked with guilt over his role in the Prophet’s death, converted to the faith and spread it throughout the Imperium, throwing down the priesthood of the Old Gods and converting their temples to the Circles of Magi and the churches of his faith. The Archon served thenceforth as both the temporal ruler of the Imperium and the spiritual.
Kordillus Drakon, credited in the south with founding the Chantry, was himself the son of a non-magically talented Tevinter; and was raised in Andrastianism, it being the faith of his father’s homeland. His Chantry, to spread the faith to his newly united Orlesian Empire, named a Divine as its head; the Divine Age of the southern calendar is named for this event.
It was not until late in the Third Age of the Orlesian calendar, the Towers Age, that the original Imperial Chantry, angered by its southern neighbor’s refusal to acknowledge its legitimacy and having clashed repeatedly with the Orlesian Chantry over the interpretation of various articles of faith, named its own Divine, separating the roles of church and state for the first time since Hessarian founded the faith. Their Divine, known in the south as the Black Divine and in Tevinter itself as the Imperial Divine (or merely the Divine), was a man, and has always been a man, in direct opposition to the always-female Orlesian Divine.
The Fourth Age of the Orlesian calendar was named the Black Age, in reference to this event, and an Exalted March was decreed against Tevinter. In total, there have been four Exalted Marches led against Tevinter and the Imperial Chantry; all have failed.
Faithful Tevinters consider the Imperium to be the true Holy Land of the faith, as it was there that their Prophet made her last sacrifice and her faith was born.
randomly thinking about this again -- the fact that it is canon that the imperial chantry predates the southern, and that drakon was very likely raised andrastian by his tevinter father, but then went and started his own damn chantry. honestly, you could likely call the southern variant of the faith “drakonite” and the northern “hessarianist” to differentiate them as easily as you could by calling them “imperial” and “orlesian.”
though, of course, andraste having been the founder of the faith, the mother of the faith, it will always be called for her regardless of whether the tevinter version considers her divine (like the south) or just a mage seer who, like the first somniari of old, was in contact with a divine force. tbh now that I consider it, there’s likely a bit of syncretism there, i think? because yes, there is the transfiguration when tevinter changed from the faith of the old gods to the faith of andraste, but it might well have made a lot of sense to them that a mage with certain abilities could be in communication with the divine, because the existing faith of the old gods preached much the same thing. it would make certain aspects of the new belief easier to graft over the old.....) but in short, yes, despite all the different cults and the different belief systems which sprang from it, all of which had their own articles of faith, at the core it is her religion, in that she is the one who brought it to them. (parallel it to calling them the ‘abrahamic’ religions, perhaps?)
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Since the beginning of their homeland’s history, appetites drove Tevinter to a great and treacherous many feats. But, from Age to Age, the opprobrium that came with these appetites changed; morality falling in and out of fashion like the seasons, revised whenever appropriate. Deities, politics, schools of magic — anything could be deemed deviant, and it was inevitably determined within the eye of one’s era. The shame of it all is that just by coupling enough status to complying to the expectation of acting with some discretion, the most taboo of appetites are of no consequence. To satisfy them blithely, however, meant suffering absolute, social impunity.
What Dorian lacks, as his father and his string of failed mentors can all attest to, is obedience. The shining flaw on a prodigal son half-heartedly hidden by negligence to his duties; recently made obvious through a series of relapses and carousing. He wore the last stint as if it were a sack of rocks on his shoulders, and grooved deep into the sockets of his exhaust-reddened eyes. Half a day (he presumed, as time was slippery) was lost in a chamber that he had been brought to, a hope that he might sober enough to be, well, coherent and vice versa.
A curious smile was nevertheless on Dorian’s face, too. A bit queasy, but as small the end of a secret, it was already fading by the point that he had been accepted into the Divine’s grand study. Just a moment before, he had tormented that statue of a man outside, foolishly testing this predicament by requesting a proper drink. Whatever the severity of Dorian’s punishment was going to be, no amount of “even the cooking sherry will do"s would make any worse, so he demurred.
Down came his shoulders first, revering the title — and if he were pressed to admit, the person to whom it belonged — in the manner of fanciful bowing. There was a perfect one-two count where he lingered, hearing the memory of tutors in a now-intrinsic part of his mind guiding him just when to acknowledge the Divine, all in spite of the libations that still swirled.
His nerves were steady, unthreatened though a threat there was surer than not. Authority easy to ignore. But by the thrum in his ears, he knows it was not so easy to discount the Divine’s magnetism that overexcited the senses. Even on the precipice of his own freedoms, the man stood on a platform of inspiration so well that he felt a guttering sensation of hope.
"I suppose I should forgo saying "I can explain”?“
Urian watched with a small, interested smile on his face as the young man bowed. The obeisance was perfectly correct, in depth and form and duration, despite the rather, it must be said, ragged appearance of the Pavus heir – and the slight unsteadiness on his feet he’d evinced in sauntering into the room in the first place. Some very good tutors had spent a very hard stint of time in drilling manners and etiquette into the Pavus boy, that much was certain. And Urian found it interesting, under the circumstances, that young Lord Dorian had even bothered with a bow. He hadn’t shown such respect to anyone else in this entire ridiculous circus of an affair.
Perhaps, Urian mused, the Pavus boy actually revered Urian’s position… or Urian himself. Urian did have rather a reputation as a redeemer, after all; and from everything he’d heard of Pavus, the boy was unconventional and nontraditional in his habits. How very interesting indeed, if so; Urian could use that.
His smile only broadened when Pavus straightened and spoke. Indeed, he actually laughed aloud and waved a hand airily. “Well that depends,” Urian answered, with a certain warm amusement in the tone. “Do you think you have anything to explain?”
He stood up from behind his desk and crossed to a small table set beneath one of the windows. This high up in the Argent Spire, the windows were not the small slitted things which defense dictated lower down; far out of bowshot, this level boasted wide windows inset with diamond-shaped panes of crystal-clear glass imported from Serault. Afternoon sunlight spilled in and cast the aurum table with a dull, rich gleam, picking out the geometric patterns lightly incised in its surface. Upon it sat a teapot of worked silver, steaming gently; and a set of thin teacups. Urian lifted the pot and poured into two of them. The pale brew filled the room with its scent, mingling the grassy greenness of the tea and the brighter thrill of mint. Urian offered one of the cups to the Pavus boy with his own hands, hoping Dorian was at least present enough to be cognizant of the honor.
“Come now, Lord Dorian,” he said, with an avuncular amusement. “I’m certain you would prefer something stronger, but the tea will help with last night’s… excesses.” There was no judgment at all to be heard in his tone, no anger or annoyance or deprecation.
Urian raised one hand in a simple quelling gesture. “And please, before you begin with the your Perfections, I must insist you call me Father Urian. Divine is an important position, of course; but I do not choose to stand on dignity. I prefer to be the simple priest I’ve always been, at least in situations which do not require the most formal of my vestments.” He laughed softly and took a seat beside the tea table. “Please, my boy. Sit. And why don’t you tell me a bit about yourself? Of course I’ve heard tales, but now... I’d like to hear your own words.”
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so, @archontem and i have discussed before how very odd it is to have a ‘god of slavery’ from any sort of sociological standpoint… and that a ‘god of slaves,’ being one worshiped by slaves, would make more sense – but Andoral is an officially sanctioned pantheon god.
however, there’s a canon source which calls Andoral “the god of unity.” and things like marriages are associated with him – my theory has been that Andoral is the god of social structures generally, of all the metaphorical ‘chains’ which bind civilization (and citizens) together. in this view, slavery would be just one facet among the many governed in his realm of interest.
and we realized earlier, or gaia noticed it specifically, that the same canon source which calls Andoral “the god of unity” calls Zazikel, not the god of chaos as per what we usually see, but the goddess of freedom.
i am sensing some historical revisionism here, tbh? firstly occluding the gender of one of the deities (the only other old god whom we know to be female is Razikale, old god(dess) of mystery) but also changing her realm from the quite nice “freedom” to the somewhat sinister “chaos.” it goes right there, hand in hand with changing Andoral from the god of unity to the god of slaves.
i’d theorize, or headcanon i suppose (since biowhy will do what biowhy does), that Andoral met his fate immediately subsequent to, not so much Andraste’s revolution itself, but Hessarian’s public conversion. in the chaos, ha, of the Transfiguration, during which the Old Gods and their Temples were overthrown in favor of the Maker and the Chant, it was likely that thing were… rewritten. remember that Andraste had been a slave, and lead the slaves of Tevinter to freedom. so how better to show that the Old Gods were corrupt than to rename one of them from Unity to Slavery?
and by the same token, in the wake of a slave rebellion and change in society, well, we simply cannot have an Old God of Freedom, now can we? the Old Gods are dark and wicked, oppressive – so it isn’t freedom, it’s chaos, because of course the wicked dreamer-mage elite would venerate something as dangerous as chaos, wouldn’t they?
ETA per more discussion/thought with/by gaia: it’s also very possible indeed that the name change from “God of Unity” to “God of Slaves” would have been something initiated by the slaves who were part of Andraste’s revolution, and then Hessarian’s early Imperial Chantry picked up on that and made it “official,” so to speak. and also the idea of a Goddess of Freedom is, as gaia points out, very close to what Andraste herself represents, so they’d very much want to distance the two ideas – which removes both the gender of that Old God and her realm of influence in one strike.
apparently there’s a tweet that the “goddess” part, re: zazikel, is a typo. (one hell of typo...) but the rest of it? still a thing. and anyway our version where zazikel was the goddess of freedom and both were changed to not impinge on andraste’s role is way better so fuck biowhy and their damned typos anyway
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