just reblogging things so I can find them later :) Comes in waves of nothing for days then 16 posts in 10 mins, I don't recommend following this blog :/
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the contrast between these two images makes me want to yell and scream at ivanmizi shippers because oh my GOD they're FRIENDS!! FRIENDS!!!! IVAN NEVER HAD FEELINGS FOR MIZI!!! HE THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AS UNWORTHY OF LOVE!!! MY BABYYYYY
The hard part about writing alien stage fics isn't the characters, it's the setting because I have so many questions about how everything works bro
Like for Alien Stage, how do they pick songs? Because from Unknown till the end, it seems like there's some option to "hijack" the song choice, but generally how long does it take to agree upon a song choice? When do they know what song they'll be singing? There's a chance it may be long predetermined especially because there was only a few hours between round 6 and 7, but that doesn't exactly make sense because objectively Ivan was more likely to enter the finals but Blink Gone is a song that suits Till far more. Maybe I'm thinking way too much about this because I'm trying to write a round between Luka and Hyuna fic, like do they just whip it out on the spot because they're supposed to know almost every song in existence? Who even makes the decision? I mean in Round 5, they played RoMH which is clearly to Luka's advantage since he WROTE THE SONG so does guardian influence play into what can be performed?
Also, How Does The Scoring System Work. What is the criteria to get points. Do they give it based on how much they sing or how well they sing or how captivating they are or how their performance hailed as a whole. Is there a voting based system (I doubt so) but even if there isn't what is the criteria. Because this shit makes my head hurt trying to answer arbitrary point systems that don't make sense. Like what's the penalty for not singing. Is it based on duration? Is it possible for someone to still win even if they stop singing part of the way through?
Someone tell me there are canon explanations for all of these because it will annoy me if there isn't
Someone tell me there are canon explanations for all of these because it will annoy me if there isn't
Well... prepare to be annoyed 😭
Luckily, some things do kinda have answers! This is everything I know from the artbook/patreon, and also some of my opinions..? well, anything official I'll make sure to color, you can skip the other stuff if ya want
Like for Alien Stage, how do they pick songs? Because from Unknown till the end, it seems like there's some option to "hijack" the song choice
surprise ✨ idk. I've never seen anything for how they're picking them in-universe. However, the artbook does mention that nobody has ever done what Till did, so idk if I'd call it an option, or at least not an official one.
generally how long does it take to agree upon a song choice? When do they know what song they'll be singing?
well, again, idk who is picking or when. But the artbook also mentions that the participants receive the score for the song about a week before the competition! And sometimes you may have the option to sing/practice with your partner to prepare for Alien Stage, but it's unclear how far that goes... theoretically there's only 8 contestants at a time, so each person would only need to have 7 songs prepared for each potential match up. Which isn't a particularly crazy number? Especially if they know at least some of the songs beforehand (child Sua sings My Clematis at the beginning so I think the songs existed, obvs we don't really know if other songs were but it's possible). Plus, I mean, they've literally been training their whole life for this, they honestly could have learned to do incredibly quick performance improv?
There's a chance it may be long predetermined especially because there was only a few hours between round 6 and 7, but that doesn't exactly make sense because objectively Ivan was more likely to enter the finals but Blink Gone is a song that suits Till far more
I'd lean more towards pre-determined just cuz they have to have outfits prepared as well,, but like I was saying before it's possible the Luka Ivan mashup would've had a different song 🤔 Esp if they took advantage of the (probably unplanned?) hiatus between R5 and R6, although ig that doesn't tell you anything about how a normal Alien Stage would run...
Who even makes the decision? I mean in Round 5, they played RoMH which is clearly to Luka's advantage since he WROTE THE SONG so does guardian influence play into what can be performed?
Now this is so not similar, but bear with me a moment. In both the artbook and the patreon they mention that R5's stage was actually specially prepared for Luka, as he was the previous season's winner. The artbook also mentions that the investments in the stages are based off of the participants commercial value (and guardians could potentially make separate investments in it). So R2 has the smallest stage and R5 has the biggest. But, R5 was specifically donated by the Anakt Garden, which is why their logo is all over it.
(also semi-related, the artbook mentions the costumes are made after a precise analysis of the contestants' charms and what will appeal to the audience)
so... I'd say it's possible R5 being so specifically catered to Luka may not be solely the influence of his guardian. I know this isn't helping narrow down anything, but the Luka favoritism runs deep, so it may be possible Heparu did not have to get involved in this much at all. I mean, I'm sure Heparu was meddling just cuz, but it is also possible there's a team who picks the songs similarly to the costume team who just decided a Luka round would be very appealing to the audience? especially if they could get big sponsorships from it
Also, How Does The Scoring System Work.
And this... is where the true uncharted waters begin.
What is the criteria to get points. Do they give it based on how much they sing or how well they sing or how captivating they are or how their performance hailed as a whole. Is there a voting based system (I doubt so) but even if there isn't what is the criteria.
idkkkkk 😭😭 I also assume it's not a voting system, if only because we know Mizi and Sua were trying to game the score, which wouldn't make much sense if it was so subjective?? How would you even begin to predict how you're going to be voted on with any degree of accuracy? But nobody really knows.....
Like what's the penalty for not singing. Is it based on duration? Is it possible for someone to still win even if they stop singing part of the way through?
one thing we do know, if it helps at all somehow, is that according to the artbook, r2 ended with Till having 153 points and Acorn with 20. Meaning the numbers can go higher than 100, and that Acorn didn't need to sing at all to get those 20 points. If it's not a voting system, but what does that mean?
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I discovered some of the cards a while ago and have been meaning to get into it (I see a lot of translations), but do I just. Go from anywhere? Pick a character and stick with them? Try to start from the beginning??
Sorry if it sounds silly 😅 but every time I remember about it and think "Oh yeah, I should really check it out today!" I just end up staring at piles of translation posts before my brain shuts off and goes "eh maybe next time I'll figure it all out"
i read translations of 18trip's main story on yukikaze.love; the amount of chapters may seem intimidating, but it doesn't hurt to pick a group that particularly stands out to you and start from there, and then read the rest if you're still interested.
links
Recommended Reading Guide For New 18Trippers
18TRIP EN
(if you download the game) Omotenashi Battles Guide
Event Directory (18TRIP Wiki)
if you haven't seen it already, someone shared the wechat stickers in a google drive! But they only just barely started showing the lin ling ones, I don't think they're out yet..? (Or if they are I haven't seen anyone talking about them except with screenshots from videos 😭)
Hopefully someone will get them and share them soon 😭😭
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my favorite head cannon I have for Till is him and the little pink hair kid doing a fist bump but they do the ASL sign for "I love you"(🤟) instead of the normal fist
and in case anyone is curious, here's how to sign I love you/사랑해 in korean sign language, I think it's cute cuz it could also work with the fist bump idea 🥺 (🤟 is internationally recognized/used so it works too ofc!!)
I heard people saying that in this frame of karma, there was a heart behind Ivan’s shirt and it means Till reciprocated Ivan’s feelings yada yada but I genuinely don’t know if it’s a heart or something else. SOMEONE PLS TELL ME!!
here's the only other angle we can see it from, and it sure is suspiciously heart shaped and the right color 🤔 and also very suspicious that the others all have their hearts accounted for, but we never see a clear indication of where Till's is...
On the other hand, we can see when Ivan moves that it doesn't reflect the light in the crystal-y way that the others do. So. idk
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