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Selling tail made by Sharpe19.

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This is going to be very much TL;DR but I am sick to death of being scammed by these assholes.

They’re posting snippets of our conversations to try and make me look like an asshole when they (and btw, when I say they I mostly mean Chris/Blix) REPEATEDLY broke their old and new TOS, fucked me around for 15 months (my suit was half arsed in the space of a month) and repeatedly refused to refund even when they had not worked on my suit at all.

I have multiple screenshots of him blatantly lying to myself and others about me, including but not limited to how much I paid.

Because of all this, and because I have a suit that is all but unwearable, I will be doing everything I can to stop him from scamming another person.

Because this is what Christian Patterson and Erin Capps are doing: Scamming people.

I have also been coerced into keeping silent. Repeatedly, with threats of him not completing my suit and giving me virtually no money back.

So here’s my side of the story. And his, pretty much as it contains the screenshots of our entire conversation.

It’s been so long.

I’ve kept my mouth shut about this for MONTHS. And trust me, it has been hard.

But I have to tell people.

I can no longer sit here and watch other people get scammed the way I have been.

Chris Patterson/Blix Fox/Keurig Husky of Fuzzworks/Made By Blix is my suit maker. And here is the story of me coming to commission him.

We were friends and I had just managed to start saving after getting a new job. He mentioned that he made suits and that he’d love to do mine and I sent the initial payment on August 3rd (http://imgur.com/RyLRr1n,FXuP5Fk). I was not linked to his TOS or even made aware that he HAD a TOS. In fact, I’m not even sure he had a written out TOS when I initially commissioned him.

It should also be noted that, when I commissioned him, Erin Capps was in no way involved. I will get into that in more detail later.

Anyway, I made the payments and expected start on the head, hands, feet and tail while I got the DTD (Duct Tape Dummy) sorted as a way to measure the best fit for me. This took me awhile as I have no one I’m comfortable with making one with, and my partner was away. Anyway, the DTD got done and sent off in May 2015, and I received confirmation from him that he’d received it on the 10th of May, 2015 (http://imgur.com/0Ehn1iE). It was around about this time that Erin became his apprentice/public representative

I should have realised before this point that things weren’t getting done, but, as it was my first fursuit commission, I didn’t see the signs.

It was shortly after his confirmation of receiving the DTD that I realised something was amiss. His messages dropped to nothing, even friendly chit chat. And after three attempts to get his attention about measurements (over the space of months) (http://imgur.com/0Ehn1iE) I resorted to posting on his wall as I was getting NOTHING from him ( http://imgur.com/jBvjim5 ). After this, he responded quickly to my messages. Please note that, due to a car accident, my left thumb is a lot larger than my right, and most gloves that will fit my right hand DO NOT fit my left. Hence the comment about my “fucked up” hand.

This ensued, in which he made lots of excuses for his inactivity and eventually agreed to a deadline of December.

At around this same time, he took on a new commissioner by the name of “Kabier” on the 15th of July.

At first I thought little of this, though I was rather irritated that he was taking new commissioners despite not having given me any indication of where he was with my commission, only saying that it’s “in storage”.

I’ll add here that his TOS states in regards to Work-In-Progress pictures “we will send at minimum two photos per month”. Seen also in this screenshot is that I was NOT on his “master commission list” (http://imgur.com/F8fJ95s,J2BJZXW)

As of 31/08/15, I still have had NO photos of the WIP on my suit.

Anyway, on the 30th of August, I saw that he had a nearly finished WIP of Kabier’s head posted on his timeline (http://imgur.com/hOpEEKX,gAwd8ur) and I must admit, I lost my cool here as I still had absolutely ZERO WIP pictures and it had been dead on a month since I previously argued with Chris, meanwhile, someone who had paid little more than a month prior already had the foamwork of their head nearly completed

I messaged both him and Erin regarding wanting a refund (http://imgur.com/rmiRzty,kMWSGDS,uJ7SAJI,vdexkSL) and got nothing but excuses and being told that I would get very little of my money back and wouldn’t even get to keep what he has already done.

I eventually agreed to a deadline of December 1st, 2015 as I feel I have no other choice. It’s either lose nearly $2,000 or wait for my suit.

On top of this, I am also not on his “Master Commission List” despite having paid a year ago.

I have written this on the 31st of August, 2015. Further will be written as it occurs.

I did not post this to Artists Beware at this date as Chris has already threatened to sell what he’s made so far with a few edits and only give me the proceeds if I argue with him again. I have made an attempt to dispute my payments via paypal as of the 30th of Aug, but I am not covered by buyer protection as I have left it too long .

5 of September 2015. He found out I was going to the Better Business Bureau (to find out what my rights were regarding all of this) and, because of that, refused to finish my commission. He is Auctioning off the “40%” that he did here: https://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1076412.html and has told me that whatever he gets for that is all the refund I will receive. ( http://imgur.com/T0bpE59 )

While we were arguing, he posted multiple lies about me including this one http://imgur.com/a/RpmEH which is proven to be a lie by this screenshot right here as well as my receipts saying that I paid $2000 for it.

After about a month of arguing, him blocking me and continue to spread the message that he was scamming me, he caved and said he would finish my suit. I gave my terms on this, and, while they may seem very strict and uncaring to some, I had to ensure that my ass was covered if he was to turn his back on this agreement… which I suspect he will do.

http://i.imgur.com/5n2zQkH.png here is the screenshot of Erin (his girlfriend) asking to end this all.

This in itself was a battle as Chris was lying to her http://imgur.com/a/ZZHzO (shows the lie and the message showing he blocked me) about me supposedly refusing to talk to him.

And then, when he finally came forward to talk, he refused to unblock me on his real account and the one I had been dealing with for the whole time. http://imgur.com/uYUYUtC

When I finally managed to get him to unblock me, this was the “resolution” http://imgur.com/a/qKjNn

Also note that the shipping http://imgur.com/hdgPqKZ (seen in previous screenshot but too small) is $900 USD. But he’s accepting $500 AUD

Also this http://imgur.com/cnPVlKz shows that the paws they made were not in the colour I had OKed and are therefore not my paws. http://imgur.com/hkQpR6O after pestering for updates every few days, I found out he’s made a tail.

http://imgur.com/a/1qSMj and here is a whole bunch of shit.

I think it pretty much speaks for itself. He tried to tell me how MY DESIGN was meant to be because he was lazy and fucked it up. He was consistently rude to me and once again broke our TOS when I simply asked for updates.

And keep in mind this is all before I got the suit.

And I paid $2000 in August, 2014

Now, since I’ve gotten the suit.

First I’ll tell you a little bit about it.

For starters, the head:

the ears are shaved in a way that makes like they were added as an afterthought. The poof of fluff that makes the hair is lopsided. The eyes are really hard to see out of. There is pretty much no room for my face, it’s really tight and I practically rip my own ears off trying to get the head off of me. There is a tiny slit for a mouth which has absolutely minimal ventilation and if you wear the head in a way that actually allows you to breathe easily, your eyes sit below the eyes of the head. It is REALLY HEAVY too. They got NO MEASUREMENTS for the head and refused them when I offered, stating that “one size fits all”. Subsequently, my head doesn’t fit me.

The body: To be honest I think it was made to fit him, not me. It is too tight pretty much everywhere EXCEPT my belly, which I would have forgiven as I’ve probably put on a bit of pudge around the middle in the TEN MONTHS since I made the DTD. They have not at all accounted for the DTD shrinking in the past 10 months and, as a consequence, the torso is too short and the shoulders are not wide enough.

They clearly thought that something was up with the DTD as they asked for arm measurements (and also thought it had shrunk, as they admit in screenshots I will display in a moment). It is not nearly big enough for me to zip up. Let alone bend down or wear a cooling vest like I explicitly requested.

Unwearable

The hands: They’re pretty good tbh.

But the left one doesn’t fit me.

I let them know again and again that I have a dodgey left thumb, meaning I would need two different sized handpaws. They ignored me and refused to get measurements.

So they’re unwearable.

The feet: Weigh probably more than the head… EACH. Somehow, despite him NOT GETTING THE MEASUREMENTS FOR MY FEET, they actually fit! Leading me to believe (again) that the suit was made to fit him and not me.

Wearable, but without the rest of the suit, ultimately worthless

The tail: Is actually pretty decent. For some reason though, they’ve built it with ALUMINIUM inside???? it holds it’s shape pretty well and isn’t too heavy, but due to… rings (I really don’t know how else to explain this) of aluminium within the tail, it has a lumpy appearance.

Now.

Screenshots of my conversation after finding out that he had well overcharged me for postage, and our subsequent conversation about how virtually none of my suit fits me.

http://imgur.com/a/Zk30P

I must admit, I lost my temper. A lot.

They also BLAME ME for the body not fitting. The only way they will fix it is if I pay postage. Which is against our TOS which he clearly agreed to stating HE will pay for shipping if anything doesn’t fit.

They did not at all account for shrinkage and everything that does not fit me is entirely their fault, though they refuse to be held accountable for it.

So here is the final messages between us.

He has now blocked me.

For your viewing pleasure, I also have these multiple screenshots of him and his girlfriend buying suits, buying art, looking at TVs, and going to a lot of conventions all while complaining they have no money. I even have a screenshot of Chris driving while playing on his 3DS!

http://imgur.com/a/TQoXD

And this isn’t even half of it. I’ve only caught SOME of the bullshit he’s been doing, mostly stuff that’s related to my case. Some other people are coming public about how he’s scammed and fucked them around, but there are at least half a dozen who are remaining silent to avoid his attacks and lies. I’ve been lucky enough to have taken screenshots of everything, meaning he can’t scream “well they have no evidence” which he and Erin are doing to people. But these people ALL have very similar experiences to me. They aren’t alone. He’s done it before He will do it again.

But think about it like this: The more shit you sweep under that rug, the bigger the lump underneath it will become. Eventually people looking at that big lump in the rug are going to lift if up and see all the dirty secrets.

I’d just keep posting on other places like tumblr and anywhere else he can’t whine and cry to have submissions taken down.

This is going to be very much TL;DR but I am sick to death of being scammed by these assholes.

They’re posting snippets of our conversations to try and make me look like an asshole when they (and btw, when I say they I mostly mean Chris/Blix) REPEATEDLY broke their old and new TOS, fucked me around for 15 months (my suit was half arsed in the space of a month) and repeatedly refused to refund even when they had not worked on my suit at all.

I have multiple screenshots of him blatantly lying to myself and others about me, including but not limited to how much I paid.

Because of all this, and because I have a suit that is all but unwearable, I will be doing everything I can to stop him from scamming another person.

Because this is what Christian Patterson and Erin Capps are doing: Scamming people.

I have also been coerced into keeping silent. Repeatedly, with threats of him not completing my suit and giving me virtually no money back.

So here’s my side of the story. And his, pretty much as it contains the screenshots of our entire conversation.

It’s been so long.

I’ve kept my mouth shut about this for MONTHS. And trust me, it has been hard.

But I have to tell people.

I can no longer sit here and watch other people get scammed the way I have been.

Chris Patterson/Blix Fox/Keurig Husky of Fuzzworks/Made By Blix is my suit maker. And here is the story of me coming to commission him.

We were friends and I had just managed to start saving after getting a new job. He mentioned that he made suits and that he’d love to do mine and I sent the initial payment on August 3rd (http://imgur.com/RyLRr1n,FXuP5Fk). I was not linked to his TOS or even made aware that he HAD a TOS. In fact, I’m not even sure he had a written out TOS when I initially commissioned him.

It should also be noted that, when I commissioned him, Erin Capps was in no way involved. I will get into that in more detail later.

Anyway, I made the payments and expected start on the head, hands, feet and tail while I got the DTD (Duct Tape Dummy) sorted as a way to measure the best fit for me. This took me awhile as I have no one I’m comfortable with making one with, and my partner was away. Anyway, the DTD got done and sent off in May 2015, and I received confirmation from him that he’d received it on the 10th of May, 2015 (http://imgur.com/0Ehn1iE). It was around about this time that Erin became his apprentice/public representative

I should have realised before this point that things weren’t getting done, but, as it was my first fursuit commission, I didn’t see the signs.

It was shortly after his confirmation of receiving the DTD that I realised something was amiss. His messages dropped to nothing, even friendly chit chat. And after three attempts to get his attention about measurements (over the space of months) (http://imgur.com/0Ehn1iE) I resorted to posting on his wall as I was getting NOTHING from him ( http://imgur.com/jBvjim5 ). After this, he responded quickly to my messages. Please note that, due to a car accident, my left thumb is a lot larger than my right, and most gloves that will fit my right hand DO NOT fit my left. Hence the comment about my “fucked up” hand.

This ensued, in which he made lots of excuses for his inactivity and eventually agreed to a deadline of December.

At around this same time, he took on a new commissioner by the name of “Kabier” on the 15th of July.

At first I thought little of this, though I was rather irritated that he was taking new commissioners despite not having given me any indication of where he was with my commission, only saying that it’s “in storage”.

I’ll add here that his TOS states in regards to Work-In-Progress pictures “we will send at minimum two photos per month”. Seen also in this screenshot is that I was NOT on his “master commission list” (http://imgur.com/F8fJ95s,J2BJZXW)

As of 31/08/15, I still have had NO photos of the WIP on my suit.

Anyway, on the 30th of August, I saw that he had a nearly finished WIP of Kabier’s head posted on his timeline (http://imgur.com/hOpEEKX,gAwd8ur) and I must admit, I lost my cool here as I still had absolutely ZERO WIP pictures and it had been dead on a month since I previously argued with Chris, meanwhile, someone who had paid little more than a month prior already had the foamwork of their head nearly completed

I messaged both him and Erin regarding wanting a refund (http://imgur.com/rmiRzty,kMWSGDS,uJ7SAJI,vdexkSL) and got nothing but excuses and being told that I would get very little of my money back and wouldn’t even get to keep what he has already done.

I eventually agreed to a deadline of December 1st, 2015 as I feel I have no other choice. It’s either lose nearly $2,000 or wait for my suit.

On top of this, I am also not on his “Master Commission List” despite having paid a year ago.

I have written this on the 31st of August, 2015. Further will be written as it occurs.

I did not post this to Artists Beware at this date as Chris has already threatened to sell what he’s made so far with a few edits and only give me the proceeds if I argue with him again. I have made an attempt to dispute my payments via paypal as of the 30th of Aug, but I am not covered by buyer protection as I have left it too long .

5 of September 2015. He found out I was going to the Better Business Bureau (to find out what my rights were regarding all of this) and, because of that, refused to finish my commission. He is Auctioning off the “40%” that he did here: https://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1076412.html and has told me that whatever he gets for that is all the refund I will receive. ( http://imgur.com/T0bpE59 )

While we were arguing, he posted multiple lies about me including this one http://imgur.com/a/RpmEH which is proven to be a lie by this screenshot right here as well as my receipts saying that I paid $2000 for it.

After about a month of arguing, him blocking me and continue to spread the message that he was scamming me, he caved and said he would finish my suit. I gave my terms on this, and, while they may seem very strict and uncaring to some, I had to ensure that my ass was covered if he was to turn his back on this agreement… which I suspect he will do.

http://i.imgur.com/5n2zQkH.png here is the screenshot of Erin (his girlfriend) asking to end this all.

This in itself was a battle as Chris was lying to her http://imgur.com/a/ZZHzO (shows the lie and the message showing he blocked me) about me supposedly refusing to talk to him.

And then, when he finally came forward to talk, he refused to unblock me on his real account and the one I had been dealing with for the whole time. http://imgur.com/uYUYUtC

When I finally managed to get him to unblock me, this was the “resolution” http://imgur.com/a/qKjNn

Also note that the shipping http://imgur.com/hdgPqKZ (seen in previous screenshot but too small) is $900 USD. But he’s accepting $500 AUD

Also this http://imgur.com/cnPVlKz shows that the paws they made were not in the colour I had OKed and are therefore not my paws. http://imgur.com/hkQpR6O after pestering for updates every few days, I found out he’s made a tail.

http://imgur.com/a/1qSMj and here is a whole bunch of shit.

I think it pretty much speaks for itself. He tried to tell me how MY DESIGN was meant to be because he was lazy and fucked it up. He was consistently rude to me and once again broke our TOS when I simply asked for updates.

And keep in mind this is all before I got the suit.

And I paid $2000 in August, 2014

Now, since I’ve gotten the suit.

First I’ll tell you a little bit about it.

For starters, the head:

the ears are shaved in a way that makes like they were added as an afterthought. The poof of fluff that makes the hair is lopsided. The eyes are really hard to see out of. There is pretty much no room for my face, it’s really tight and I practically rip my own ears off trying to get the head off of me. There is a tiny slit for a mouth which has absolutely minimal ventilation and if you wear the head in a way that actually allows you to breathe easily, your eyes sit below the eyes of the head. It is REALLY HEAVY too. They got NO MEASUREMENTS for the head and refused them when I offered, stating that “one size fits all”. Subsequently, my head doesn’t fit me.

The body: To be honest I think it was made to fit him, not me. It is too tight pretty much everywhere EXCEPT my belly, which I would have forgiven as I’ve probably put on a bit of pudge around the middle in the TEN MONTHS since I made the DTD. They have not at all accounted for the DTD shrinking in the past 10 months and, as a consequence, the torso is too short and the shoulders are not wide enough.

They clearly thought that something was up with the DTD as they asked for arm measurements (and also thought it had shrunk, as they admit in screenshots I will display in a moment). It is not nearly big enough for me to zip up. Let alone bend down or wear a cooling vest like I explicitly requested.

Unwearable

The hands: They’re pretty good tbh.

But the left one doesn’t fit me.

I let them know again and again that I have a dodgey left thumb, meaning I would need two different sized handpaws. They ignored me and refused to get measurements.

So they’re unwearable.

The feet: Weigh probably more than the head… EACH. Somehow, despite him NOT GETTING THE MEASUREMENTS FOR MY FEET, they actually fit! Leading me to believe (again) that the suit was made to fit him and not me.

Wearable, but without the rest of the suit, ultimately worthless

The tail: Is actually pretty decent. For some reason though, they’ve built it with ALUMINIUM inside???? it holds it’s shape pretty well and isn’t too heavy, but due to… rings (I really don’t know how else to explain this) of aluminium within the tail, it has a lumpy appearance.

Now.

Screenshots of my conversation after finding out that he had well overcharged me for postage, and our subsequent conversation about how virtually none of my suit fits me.

http://imgur.com/a/Zk30P

I must admit, I lost my temper. A lot.

They also BLAME ME for the body not fitting. The only way they will fix it is if I pay postage. Which is against our TOS which he clearly agreed to stating HE will pay for shipping if anything doesn’t fit.

They did not at all account for shrinkage and everything that does not fit me is entirely their fault, though they refuse to be held accountable for it.

So here is the final messages between us.

He has now blocked me.

For your viewing pleasure, I also have these multiple screenshots of him and his girlfriend buying suits, buying art, looking at TVs, and going to a lot of conventions all while complaining they have no money. I even have a screenshot of Chris driving while playing on his 3DS!

http://imgur.com/a/TQoXD

And this isn’t even half of it. I’ve only caught SOME of the bullshit he’s been doing, mostly stuff that’s related to my case. Some other people are coming public about how he’s scammed and fucked them around, but there are at least half a dozen who are remaining silent to avoid his attacks and lies. I’ve been lucky enough to have taken screenshots of everything, meaning he can’t scream “well they have no evidence” which he and Erin are doing to people. But these people ALL have very similar experiences to me. They aren’t alone. He’s done it before He will do it again.

But think about it like this: The more shit you sweep under that rug, the bigger the lump underneath it will become. Eventually people looking at that big lump in the rug are going to lift if up and see all the dirty secrets.

I’d just keep posting on other places like tumblr and anywhere else he can’t whine and cry to have submissions taken down.

If you prefer to just keep everything off FA that’s cool too, and we’ll just wash our hands of this.

As an aside, I definitely recommend pursuing the Artists_Beware posting on livejournal. Nobody can touch you there, you will get your word out to a wide userbase, and the mods there are extremely helpful as well.

I have noticed this myself. I’m sure there are FAR more reviews than what FursuitCritique actually posts.