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"I know he's part wolf-- he's been tested."
The UC Davis test is the only test (available to the general public)that has been proven to be able to accurately decipher wolf from dog DNA!
ALL OTHER TESTS DO NOT REALLY WORK!
The UC Davis can only tell you if your animal does or doesn’t have wolf in him/her. It CANNOT tell you how much wolf is in your animal.
Learn more about the test here.
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Wolfdogs are one of the most highly-regulated canines in America. Even in legal states, certain cities and counties still ban ownership, and several insurance companies refuse to cover people who keep wolfdogs as companions.
The main reason for these harsh edicts is concerns over rabies vaccine effectiveness in the breed. Other states abide by the misnomer that wolfdogs are inherently unpredictable or dangerous. No matter the reason for the regulations, it’s important for owners to be aware of their state and local laws, and to abide by them. Failure to do so may result in an animal being confiscated and potentially euthanized by state or county authorities. Likewise, due to the problems associated with rabies vaccines for the wolfdog breed, it is possible for any wolfdog who simply nips or scratches a person to be seized and destroyed, even if the actions result in no major damage to the affected individual. For these reasons, most owners do not brag or boast about their animal’s wolf content, even when living in a perfectly legal area. They do remain honest and forthright about the content of their animals, however, and, as a general rule, won’t seek to mention the words “wolfdog” or “hybrid” unless someone specifically asks “is your dog part wolf?” or poses a similar posit.
Domestic dogs, too, suffer as a result of these breed-specific bans and restrictions. In some states, such as Louisiana, "An animal which appears indistinguishable from a wolf, or is in any way represented to be a wolf, may be considered to be a wolf in the absence of bonafide documentation to the contrary.“ This means that anyone in Louisiana who calls their husky/malamute mix “a wolf” - even if in a joking manner, and even if the animal does not appear to be a wolf - is putting that animal at risk. In 2015, in Yolo County, California, seven husky/shepherd mixes were confiscated from an owner after the owner advertised that she was selling wolf hybrids on Craigslist. While California has only a handful of laws regarding wolfdog ownership on the state level, it does maintain strict county regulations, which are taken very seriously.
Similarly, a Czechoslovakian Vlack in Lincoln, Nebraska was threatened with euthanasia after it was accused of being a wolf hybrid. While Vlack do have wolf in their base foundation lines, they are developed as a domestic breed and are quite far-removed from their wild ancestry today. By all accounts, they are domestic animals. Even so, the owner of this particular dog was forced to re-home him due to the city of Lincoln’s wolfdog ban. It is strongly urged that individuals seriously contemplating wolfdog ownership closely examine their state, county, and city ordinances in regards to hybrid canines long before bringing one such animal into their home.
Ever heard of Sun Valley Wolf Kennels? They have a page on Facebook. They frustrate me. Opinion?
I have a few problems with them (link)
They call wolfdogs wold “hybrids”.
They mention hybrid vigor
They say dogs are more aggressive than wolves (this is situational, and you cannot make a blanket statement like that).
They breed wolfdogs, which in and of itself is a problem. Very few people can properly care for wolfdogs and there are already shelters full of good dogs who are on death row awaiting adoption. We don’t need any extremely hard to find a good home for animals!
They make mention of potential buyers needing to be able to provide a home for their puppies for 10+ years??? Dogs/wolves live longer than 10.
They really romanticize wolfdogs and wolves.
They seem like they’re not shady, though. Not going to cheat people out of money or trying to pass off dogs as wolfdogs. However, I’m not 100% certain that their arctic wolf is 100% wolf?? I’m no expert but look at it. Maybe she’s transitioning from a winter coat to a summer coat but I’m not sure such a dark mane/coat thing is normal.
I mean their other wolves and wolfdogs look legit but this one has me wondering.
yourdogisnotawolf wanna weigh in?
Looks like one of Jeff Begemans pups that he has produced. His line is very very inbred, has at least triple inbred them if not more by now. So they are throwing and awful lot of defects now, he has even lost entire litters due to it. They however are not 100 percent arctic if this is one of his animals. I know the line and my male Loki goes back to a lot of the same animals in his line, and they are not pures.
Correct that is one of Jeff's animals that is severely inbred. They didn't used to have the white or the black phase which they acquired about two years ago, but only a couple of low content gsd looking ones that they claimed were high content animals. I'd stay away from them as they are misrepresenters and known for it. You can get a much better high content then the white they are using that's line carries defects now due to the inbreeding. Heres a link where you can see more of they're animals, which are clearly not highs http://sunvalleywolfkennels.com/puppies-available-now/
Ever heard of Sun Valley Wolf Kennels? They have a page on Facebook. They frustrate me. Opinion?
I have a few problems with them (link)
They call wolfdogs wold “hybrids”.
They mention hybrid vigor
They say dogs are more aggressive than wolves (this is situational, and you cannot make a blanket statement like that).
They breed wolfdogs, which in and of itself is a problem. Very few people can properly care for wolfdogs and there are already shelters full of good dogs who are on death row awaiting adoption. We don’t need any extremely hard to find a good home for animals!
They make mention of potential buyers needing to be able to provide a home for their puppies for 10+ years??? Dogs/wolves live longer than 10.
They really romanticize wolfdogs and wolves.
They seem like they’re not shady, though. Not going to cheat people out of money or trying to pass off dogs as wolfdogs. However, I’m not 100% certain that their arctic wolf is 100% wolf?? I’m no expert but look at it. Maybe she’s transitioning from a winter coat to a summer coat but I’m not sure such a dark mane/coat thing is normal.
I mean their other wolves and wolfdogs look legit but this one has me wondering.
yourdogisnotawolf wanna weigh in?
Looks like one of Jeff Begemans pups that he has produced. His line is very very inbred, has at least triple inbred them if not more by now. So they are throwing and awful lot of defects now, he has even lost entire litters due to it. They however are not 100 percent arctic if this is one of his animals. I know the line and my male Loki goes back to a lot of the same animals in his line, and they are not pures.
Jacob is a high content wolfdog up for adoption in Jackson, New Jersey.
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What's your opinion about the Alaskan Noble Companion Dog?
I think they’re absolutely beautiful!
However, despite what their breeder says, they ARE wolfdogs. (Kind of reminds you of Blue Bay Shepherds, huh?)
No wolf, eh?
This is some of the lineage of the ANCD's who most definitely do have wolf in the line.
"Xena is a wolfdog bred by Karen Evans of Wichita Falls, TX. Her parents were Ladyhawke and Nighthawke 2, bred by Lynn Williams of Howling Hills Kennel in NH. Xena's % is around 65% . Xena was not the only wolfdog in the ANCD foundation stock. Apollo was an F3, aprox 30% wolfdog, son of Luna. Luna was an F2, 44% wolfdog from a Siberian Husky bred with an 87.5% arctic wolf/Great Pyrenees litter. I do not remember who Luna's breeder was but her wolfdog parent was bred by Linda Wenger in CA. It was out of a 3/4 wolf 1/4 Great Pyrenees female bred with Ice Warrior, a pure arctic wolf from Rick Halvorson. Ice Warrior was a well known wolf in the 1980's who appeared in several movies and publications. Luna was going to be bred to her son Apollo in 1998, but it never happened, probably because she was too old."
Bella my pet wolf, some pics I took in various places around town of her
Beautiful husky. She definitely is not a pure wolf though or anywhere near it, don't know why you would call her anything other then what she is, with her beauty.
Why would a wolfdog breeder even exist if most people should not own wolfdogs anyway? I can understand shelters and rescues for wolfdogs because shit happens, but it seems wrong to intentionally breed them since the majority of people can't take care of them in the way they need to be taken care of, ya know?
Many wolfdogs breeders cater to the rare few people who feel that they can indeed manage to keep wolfdogs as ‘pets’ - and I do use the term ‘pets’ VERY lightly here, as even folks within the wolfdog community admit that they’re not really pets in the traditional sense of the term. Being a wolfdog owner is more of a lifestyle choice.
I personally don’t understand the appeal of wanting a higher-content animal for companionship, but there are people who breed and/or keep them for show business (things like TV shows, photoshoots, movies, etc.). This makes sense to a certain degree, but I’ve still got a lot of mixed feelings about it.
Some of the “wolves” you see in zoos are also wolfdogs (mostly high-contents, but every so often, you’ll find a more “doggy” animal).
There are also people who raise wolfdogs to be species ambassadors, either independently or for organizations like sanctuaries.
And then there are people who are wealthy who get a kick out of owning a “pet wolf”. (Obviously, a lot of the physical limitations “regular” people have are solved by having lots of $$$).
This is so true. My male Loki actually has a lot of siblings working at Busch Gardens in Williamsburg Va. that they call wolves. There is also a small zoo in NY, called Fort Rickey that also has two of his brothers that are listed as wolves. http://www.fortrickey.com/ and http://seaworldparks.com/en/buschgardens-williamsburg/animals/know-our-stars/gray-wolves/
Here is a couple side by side comparisons. Of a high content wolfdog Selene and a low/no content Max. There is so many people out there with animals that look like Max that try and say they are highs, and try to say there is no difference in they’re looks and a pure wolf.
Great comparison!
Wooooooolves!
No, they are not wolves
Woofer Kissies
High content wolfdogs
Omg I think this is the wolf preserve near Tallahassee
No I am a private owner In Virginia down near Virginia beach.
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This is another comparison of high content wolfdogs and how they are not born white, or light. They don't have masks or a lot of markings on them. They lighten over time. Even arctic wolfdogs are born dark. The first pic is of Selene at 12 days old. The second pic is of her at 4 weeks old. The third pic is of her at 4 months old. Fourth pic is of her at a year old. The last one is of her today at 6 years old
All higher content wolfdogs are born dark, not with tons of white or masks. Even arctics are born dark and lighten over time. These pics of Loki are from 10 days old on. The first pic. is of him at 10 days old being pulled from his mother to be bottle fed. The second pic is of him at 4 weeks old when we brought him home. Third pic is at 11 weeks old. Fourth pic is of him at 4 months old. Fifth pic is at 1 year old. And the last one is of him now at 7 years old.
Here is a couple side by side comparisons. Of a high content wolfdog Selene and a low/no content Max. There is so many people out there with animals that look like Max that try and say they are highs, and try to say there is no difference in they're looks and a pure wolf.
Loki standing cow hocked, also you can see his precaudal gland
Loki a high content wolfdog aka wolf hybrid
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1. Wolves and dogs can mate, but their offspring will be infertile.
Wolves and dogs are technically the same species and evolved from a common ancestor. They share the same number of chromosomes, which is why they can interbreed in the first place (eg. unlike dogs/foxes). They can produce...
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#wolf #husky #hybrid
This is a Siberian husky, not a wolf or wolfdog.
Actually, it is a wolfdog. The owner has papers and had to sign a contract with the breeder to get him fixed so the owner couldn’t breed him without a license. I don’t just post things without checking my facts.
With (what looks like)blue eyes, thin and pointed and not well furred ears, a liver nose, defined facial mask, and no visible “mane” on a red Siberia Husky coat color and pattern, I highly doubt this is an actual wolfdog. Papers mean nothing in the wolfdog world. They are easily forged and forged often by unscrupulous breeders. Phenotyping and the UC Davids test are really the only true tools in learning if an animal is a true wolfdog or not.
Who papers a wolfdog, anyways?
What organization?
Considering a wolfdog is essentially a mutt, surely it wouldn’t be an organization that focuses on papering purebreds, like the AKC, UKC, etc?
So yeah, who is giving out these fancy wolfdog papers? Please don’t say Continental Kennel Club.
Veterinary papers and records. Regardless of if you think it’s fake or not I took the photo for beauty’s sake.
Veterinary papers and records?
Would my vet have my cats papers? How would I get my cats papered by a vet?
The photo is nice but labeling the dog a wolfdog isn’t.
Vets will label anything as anything by either mistake or owner’s word of mouth. My cat Matthew was labeled as a British short hair on his records by his vet when he’s really a Maine coon/Siamese mix. A friend’s low content is labeled on his records as a Shepherd Mix. My sister’s coonhound was labeled as an APBT by mistake. Vet records prove nothing. Registry papers, unless by the AKC, are mostly falsified. I’ve seen lab mixes for sale at 500$ registered as “Show Line German Shepherds”. All for a quick buck. That’s a Siberian husky. Wolves do not carry the Liver gene or gene for blue eyes.
Ohh!!! You mean the little breed list when you bring your cat in.
My two male cats are both papered (with the CFA) as Oriental Longhairs. I brought Red into the vet and they noted him down as a Siamese.
Yup, OP, vet papers aren’t legit.
Veterinary records will reflect whatever the owner says the animal is. There has been at least one mutt dog that was killed for being part wolf, when it wasn’t, because the veterinary records said it was a wolf dog.
Why did the records say that? Because that’s what the owner said the dog was, so that’s what the vet wrote down. Vets are not in the business of papering animals for any purpose.
All a vet can give you is a certificate of health, this certificate is often required to import exotics into a state, but you can also get health certificates for any animal being bought or sold, not just exotics, and all the health certificate can tell you is that all the regulations regarding vaccinations and minimum animal care have been met, not what the animal is.
Papers mean nothing when it comes to wolfdogs. All the registries that will register them are not worth the paper they are printed on. I know of people who registered they're pigs as wolfdogs just to prove this. Heck I registered both of my high content wolfdogs as American indian dogs just to prove that I could register them as something they are not threw one of the registries.
Here's a copy of the registery papers http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c399/sin23323/100_2244.jpg
and heres the animal I registered, who's obviously not a Indian dog
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c399/sin23323/midsize.jpg
