whatever spills out of my head goes here

I saw the coat first, and was gagged by how simple it was. The color pop of it, over basic jeans and a black T, with black sunglasses. Truly, chef’s kiss. The actual fit on the show also got me. The shade of black was perfect, the gold accessories were perfect, as the fit of it. It was a clean sweep for the night/appearance.

I didn’t love his Lunar NY look, personally. I loved the color, as I think light shades of blue suit him, but I didn’t like the neck accessory. My favorite was probably his Milan look. I hated the fit of the suit, but the color, the texture, the layering of fabrics between the suit and the coat, the glasses, and his hair all melded so perfectly for me. That was the even where I felt like, “Oh, he wants this shit. He’s hungry for it.”

Had Anastasia not put him in that red trench, then all Black suit, who knows where Hudson would be today. Which is not to diminish his talent and charm, but those pictures shocked everybody. It was the buzziest wave of, “Who the fuck is he??” I feel like the internet has seen in a looooooong time. Add that to him showing up to the Globes carpet dripped out and easily best dressed? A moment. An era, even.

I feel like the descent came when people stopped using otp and notp. Fandom is a cluster fuck now of trying to feed an algorithm.

Right, but you said none of that, and instead seemingly took issue with someone poking fun at people still being fans of Borgias because they consider it a burnt out fandom.

Your above comments have merit, but as I said in my reply to your first message, the person was not likely commenting on people being fans of the series overall. Their response was in relation to someone flooding my inbox in defense of an actor most known for his role in Borgias prior to Heated Rivalry, because they don’t like that I don’t view him as a saint. The anon told me they add my posts to a discord dedicated to his old series, which calls into question their actual enjoyment of the series itself.

How can people claim to enjoy him or the show, when they’re wasting time going through my tumblr posts to engage with and share, when I don’t even post about said show? Thus meaning… they don’t actually care about the show and having a discord dedicated to it is pointless.

Again, what you’re saying is fair, but I said you may have taken the comment personally, because that particular anon was not saying people need to drop their interests whenever it’s fandom slows down or the show is cancelled or whatever, and move on. Yes, fandom culture is shifting and not necessarily for the better, but the points you’re making have nothing to do with the conversation that was happening. Particularly because the topic of “fandom etiquette” being in the toilet is a conversation better suited to have with the people who are in a Borgias discord, yet would rather talk about a Heated Rivarly and BTS centric blog, in said discord.

Those people or that person or however many, are actively infiltrating one fandom space with outside fandom drama. Likely annoying people who are there specifically for Borgias content, no? Which means, if they’re only in the discord to cling to any mention of Francois Arnaud, and not actually engage with anything related to the series, then they shouldn’t be in the fandom. The discord should not exist, because it’s not there to foster creativity within the fandom it’s meant to be celebrating, but is instead there to rally “bullies”. So the very people you’re tangentially defending, are the very people killing fandoms.

I think you may have taken that comment too personally, no offense. It was a dig at an actor having fans who don’t know how to move on, thus they kiki in a discord they’re clearly bored being in (seeing as one of their members admitted to them sharing my boring ass posts within it so they can all have a laugh) not the show itself.

watched this interview of emma myers (from the show wednesday on netflix) speaking about people who ship her and jenna ortega and thought about shippers in the HR fandom (all fandoms really). the part about how she and jenna are fine with fans shipping them but not when fans start harassing their friends for posting photos with her, calling them leeches and parasites... yeah.

(also funny how a 24 year old actress can be a lot more eloquent about this than the 40 year old actor lol)

I said it before, but I really think only celebs who have something going on care about shipping, aside from when it starts harassment against their friends and family. Yes, there are exceptions, namely those who are closeted, which obviously fans won’t know about. And I do think it’s fine for celebs to say they don’t like it regardless, but I maintain my opinion. If they’re not fucking around with a co-star/friend, nine times out of ten they probably don’t give a shit.

Fans don’t know how to toe that line though which is the problem. Everybody wants to be 100% correct about a ship being real or PR, so they harass the hell out of the people these celebs know, thinking they’ll get proof. They won’t. Harassing boyfriends and girlfriends will not get you an answer, and it’s pointless, because most times the celebs don’t care that you ship them!

Unfortunately anon, racism is racism, and Connor thus Ilya will be shipped with whatever white man is in s2. Including Francois, so long as Scott and Ilya have scenes. Troy if it applies, but please be prepared for the possibility of Troy being non-white, and people randomly seeing more chemistry between Ilya and the white guy playing Harris, than Shane or Troy, lol. And if by some miracle Troy and Harris are both cast non-white, Ilya will be shipped with Dallas Kent if his actor fits.

And I’m not even trying to be funny or anything, but I’ve seen it happen many times where any white actor is “better” than the actors of color in a series. So while I don’t think Connor plans to be seen with any other cast members the way he was seen with Francois, because lessons learned and different levels of fame between then and now, meaning it’ll maybe be people scraping the barrel aside from group promos and such, but still. People aren’t going to ship Ilya and Bood, nor Connor and the actor playing him, and any talk of shipping him with Hudson will continue to be treated like the worst thing in the world.

Therefore, short of Connor confirming a relationship prior to filming or s2 promo kicking off, the racism will only continue to racism. Even if they cast closeted white men, shipping will continue to happen. Even if they cast white men dating women, shipping will continue to happen, because white men are allowed to be presumed queer no matter what. Because believe me, they could cast an openly queer Black man to play Bood or an openly queer non-white man to play Troy, and people still won’t ship Connor with them even if he hangs out with them offset a lot, because this fandom has already decided he only dates white men. Older white men at that.

Small tangent, but all they were saying during the early parts of the year is that Connor is a stereotypical, artsy LA gay, who snorts lines and fucks older men. There was no respect to be had for him until he removed himself from social media, and suddenly their stance became, “he’s serious and classy!” I even got messages back then from people claiming to like him, asking me if I believed the rumors about him being a sex worker, framing it as something wrong.

And it’s funny to me that their insanity leads to hate mail, because I almost always misunderstand it. At no point in all my years online have I ever taken hateful messages personally. Which is crazy, because I overthink all the time, especially when people make comments to me in person, but on social media? No.

I’m always too caught up in trying to figure out what someone means or being sarcastic, because the person is so blatantly trolling. If someone wants to be hateful toward me and make me feel something, they’d have to literally spell it out for me, but if they do that, they end up looking stupid.

For example, the message would have to begin or end with: “I am a Hudson Williams hater and think his ugly ass deserves to die.” Or “I’m racist and hate Black woman so your opinion is worthless!”

But if they do that, I simply won’t respond. I’ve already deleted plenty of messages I’ve gotten like that, because it’s clear they just want a reaction from their over the top dramatics, and I don’t engage with that. So really, all anons can do is play the “Haha! You’re a loser!” card, but I mean… if I’m a loser online talking about a celebrity who doesn’t know me, what does that make them?

I don’t know… they’ve admitted to stalking my page for updates, sharing my posts because they think I’m funny, and to being a fan of me. Which basically means I’m their Francois replacement, no? When he’s busy, they turn to me for joy. A heavy crown to wear, and lowkey an insult to him, but I will continue doing my best to keep them happy until their white knight returns!

I had a lot to say about fans like that, but all it boils down to is, imo, Francois seems like a dickhead about things, but is also probably not full blown asshole. I don’t think he’d be someone I enjoy having any sort of conversation with outside of small talk, and that’s okay. His fans obviously think differently, and that is okay too.

I will say here, it’s probably the person I decided not to answer, given the repeated structure. But they’re also seemingly a Hudson hating Francois stan, which is why they wanted to know about the BLM posts to begin with.

Regardless, they sent me seven messages back to back, yet feel like I’m the one who needs to go outside… clearly it’s both of us, anon.