Mr.T

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Sure, plurality can be formed from pretty much anything, it's an identity, not a disorder. But systemhood, due to being a CDD symptom? Repeated childhood trauma only. Sure, any kind of trauma can do it as long as it's consistent enough and happens early enough in life, but it still have to be repeated and happen in early childhood for it to be a CDD. Saying that you can just experience one single traumatic event in adulthood and suddenly develop a CDD is spreading very harmful misinformation, and actively going against every scientific understanding of how CDDs work and all studies done on these disorders. CDDs are MEDICAL, and are confirmed by science to be formed this way, and ONLY this way. You can't just treat CDDs the same way you do plurality and expect that to work out. One is an identity, the other is a disorder.

If you truly ended up with headmates as a result of PTSD, you're a sysplex, not a system. That term exists for a reason, and that reason is because it's not the same as a CDD. If you're going to try and advocate for CDD plurals, PLEASE do actual research into CDDs and at least try to get your info right on them. Making blatantly false claims about CDDs to try and defend plurals does nothing but hurt CDD systems/plurals and make non-CDD plurals look like idiots. This is why accurate information on CDDs is so fucking important in ANY space that claims to accept us, because otherwise you get people claiming wild shit about our disorder that they made up, calling it "advocacy", and throwing a tantrum when actual CDD systems call them out for it.

If you're going to advocate for plurals, do so without throwing CDD systems under the bus or spreading misinformation about CDDs.

Her “apology” to the transmasc community was literally just posting an image of a dog shitting on a tree. I wish I was kidding. whatever

the good news is that the majority of people seem to be recognizing this for what it is (bigotry) and rightfully calling her out for it. As shitty as it might feel to be a trans guy right now, I think this is a pretty nice reminder that we do have people on our side. I’ve seen so many people coming out of the woodwork to post transmasc positivity lately bc of this whole debacle, and it’s giving me a lot of hope

also the best addition to come out of all this

Abraham Lincoln what the hell are you doing here

Syscourse needs a refresher. Here’s what someone posted tonight (on a thankfully now, I think, privated post):

Claim: Colin Ross is an abhorrent man who has done horrible things!

Evidence: A source from the Grey Faction and a Wikipedia page about the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISSTD).

Here we go. Let’s check some sources.

The tags are open to all, including non-'plural' people. The expectation is it's pro-endo only.

I'm going to give a SUPER quick rundown of this, because it's actually pretty simple (?? Maybe?)

Back in the old days, there was just MPD, and many online help groups for CDD systems

Then along came astraea's web, who was the first system/website to talk about non disordered multiplicity. It started with them, point blank. They believed that DID wasn't a result of trauma but a natural way of being, and thus began the war against DID

I'm talking like political movement level stuff to get MPD/DID out of the DSM, and it eventually became an actual hate group against the weaker, broken, traumatized systems that needed therapy. It was GROSS. This became the empowered multiple movement and the natural multiples

This was the first community split

Traumatized multiples vs empowered multiples

Because the empowered and natural multiples were so terrible, and because there was so much pushback against "natural", someone (we know who) coined "Endogenic", instead, which then turned out to be a big whoopsie when it was pointed out that Freud used endogenic to reference the fantasy theory, but that's another story

In those days, everyone was fighting over the word multiple, related to MPD, system as a term wasn't in wide use, and so the non trauma community came up with plural, related more to grammar than psychology

This is the second community split

Traumatized multiples vs endogenic plurals (formerly empowered)

All of these terms became interchangeable, plural became synonymous with endogenic, and endogenic was synonymous with empowered, and the entire plural and endogenic community got lumped into the same category of ableist haters, even though some people who use endogenic were literally babies when all this was happening and have zero idea about empowered movement

The problem is that the empowered multiples didn't go away, they just rebranded as endogenic and still exist within the community, the ideologies of LITERALLY being better than CDD systems are still there, some people still proudly use the word empowered, believing in those sentiments

The argument over non trauma based systems grew out of the natural multiple movement, and it was basically the same then as it is now, some people think trauma is the root of all multiplicity, whether you believe it affected you or or not, and those who reject being a product of trauma

But what started as disordered vs non disordered, "should DID be in the DSM?", is... what you see now

Obviously, it's ableist; but it's silly. You have less adverse experiences.. sounds like my alters have more XP than yours, bro!

Our relevant definition:

Derived or originating internally.

endo- = internal

-genic = derived of [thing].

On the other hand, is traumagenic".

Importantly, not all "endogenic systems" are adding terms like "DID".

Some use it to mean different things. This is a mixed bag.

Cuz if I tell people I'm technically abrosexual, base line pan, Omni in theory but in practice gay mlm will piss people off by alot

Just wait til they also find out I'm a turigirl, xenic nonbinary man who still feels connected to his girlhood in a way where my gender is inherently feminine and xenic at the same time while still being fully man

But that's not all, if I tell them my queer platonic attraction to women is inherently sapphic despite being a MAN people will also lose their shit

Oh well, at least I'm happy with my labels :]

Hhhhhhh

Tired of ts

Half of the system community was already unsafe bc of pro endos now it's even more unsafe bc people will absolutely hate the fact our co-host is a polymind

Y'all misinformed as fucking hell and it shows

"Fake-claiming" plurals who are unassociated with medical diagnoses won't help people with CDDs.

If you think plurality and structural dissociation are the same, that is a problem.

Babygirl, I need to hold your hands as I say this. You’re running around in here fake claiming someone because they have a factive of a well-loved internet celebrity. Because two of their headmates are dating and you think of it like cringe fanfiction. You tell people they should be ashamed of their headmate who has a problematic source, or who has done deeply problematic things in their source.

We personally have experienced issues. Why? Because we’re a white body with a few non-white headmates, two of whom are black. The way people have *assumed* that we use them to infiltrate black spaces (we don’t) or use AAVE or words that would be problematic for a white body to use (AGAIN, WE DON’T).

You crucify systems *just for existing* and tell headmates they basically shouldn’t exist, firmly believing plurality is built from trauma and see no issue with attacking people you believe to be traumatized in this way. You yourself are incapable of seeing you are a deeply traumatized person who is taking out every bit of how you feel on others, not staying in your lane, and taking no accountability.

It also creates an environment where people discount themselves because they don’t think they’re traumatized enough to be a system. That, in turn, creates a space where everyone feels they have to compare trauma. Maybe lie to themselves a little. All out of fear that if they’re too un-traumatized, they’ll be dragged out and, with how so many young people live on the internet, have their lives ruined. Maybe even lose close friends.

That. Is. Ableism. And remember that ableism is one of the core beliefs of fascism. You are on the beginnings of a slippery slope.

Stay caring of others. Stay open to learning. Support your fellow man, listen to his plea. Stay. Fucking. Punk.

Just adding, out of love for CDD-havers: if people still want separate spaces for their medical disorder journeys, they deserve that!

Interacting with plurals can be interesting, but being non-plural myself, I resonate more with medical discussions. So, I facilitate them.

Polite reminder to all readers that the trauma for CDDs is subjective. Individual. There is no "not bad enough".

You either have the symptoms, or you don't. It's okay to be wrong about that or realise later.

There are going to be people who were wrong about having a CDD. They may be plural. I want people to stop making a big deal out of this.

Plurality definitely isn't built from trauma, because it's a cultural identity anyone can opt-in to!

Makes me laugh when people say, "the only way to be plural is CDD alters". ... It sounds like wilful ignorance.

By the way... Readers: you do not need to share trauma histories online. Let's normalise not doing it, by Not Doing It.

I'm deeply sorry if you have a social circle demanding this of you.

Personally, I've been open about having a CDD for a couple years here, and nobody has ever asked for this. I'm lucky. I know fake-claiming styled harassment is common; there are subreddits dedicated to it. But, there's a solid amount of CDD-oriented people who are not going to behave like this.

If someone questions your place in the CDD community because you 'haven't disclosed enough information', consider blocking. It'll be easier to find normal content. You have enough 'on your plate'.

Shame + Isolation = Symptomatic flare-up.

like their making up a slur for a traumatized group of people that just want their community to stop being invaded.

frankly, i dont give a flying fuck if their actually plural or not. they just need to stop using our terms and stop acting like CDDs aren't so different.