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I gotta ask y'all something, because my mom just said something interesting to me and I wanna see if everyone else is seeing what she's seeing:
Is Vin Diesel white?
Yes (button for POC)
No (button for POC)
Yes (white ppl button)
No (white ppl button)
To be clear- do YOU think he's white? If you had to guess.
So, my mom was discussing how people of color pass on a different standard to white people, than they do to people of color. That is, white people aren't as sure when someone's not white. I brought up Meghan Markle (who, to me, is obviously biracial but not to everybody). But then she brought up Vin Diesel as an example and I was blown because... He has never been white to me ever. Idk WHAT he is, but white was never on the table lmao.
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it's funny to me that consistently the most polite comment rebloggergirl in the world will fully comprehend your post and append an example or supplementary work directly relevant which adds to the conversation endcapped and tagged with multiple variants of "i'm sorry to add this and i hope it's relevant but i completely understand if you'd like me to remove it or if it derails this post in any way and i hope you have a good day and i apologize" and her reblog will be two notes below scrumbo-the-wumbulous-gerblin, who has added five paragraphs to your post written in buckle up chucklefuck tumblr cadence about how race science is actually real
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thinking about the time a former housemate said to me "hey I put these box fans in the living room because it's hot" while gesturing to the fans that I was actively sitting in front of because it was hot. and I said "okay thanks." and she kept standing there like she was waiting for something else so I said "am I blocking the airflow? do you need me to move?" and she said no I'm just letting you know they're here, in the living room, for circulation. and I said well yes, I did put that together. I am enjoying them. thank you. and she looked confused. so I asked "am I meant to do something with this information or are you just informing me?" and she said no I'm letting you know they're here because It's Hot In Here. she seemed a bit aggravated, and her emphasis seemed deliberate.
it took me asking three more times before she finally told me she wanted me to leave the fans where they are instead of moving them to my room or something. and I said oh! I had no intention of doing so but thank you for letting me know what the expectation is.
about a month later she brought up that conversation as the moment it actually clicked for her that I Am Autistic And Will Not Magically Intuit The Unspoken Request You Didn't Ask Me.
I have observed enough allistic communication to know that generally, if somebody points something out to you that you can already see or are already clearly interacting with, they are making an indirect request. but as I don't know what the request is, the only way forward is for me to guess (and likely get it wrong), or prompt the allistic to tell me clearly what they need.
however, allistics don't realize they do this, so asking them to say the unspoken surprises and confuses them. this is not their fault. allistics can be quite emotionally fragile and perceive directness as confrontation, so they habitually rely on indirect speech and coded language to preserve others' feelings. this is why they may find it difficult to be direct, even when asked. I have found that with enough gentle encouragement and reassurance that they are actually helping you, you too can achieve successful communication with your allistic friend or loved one. :)
I've seen more than a few replies saying "I'm not autistic and I wouldn't have gotten that either / your roommate's an outlier / nobody could have gotten that." fair enough, it was a pretty specific situation and it seems she genuinely didn't communicate well. as I often run into issues with indirectness, it scanned to me like all the other times I haven't been able to read between the lines. so let me give a few more examples of this phenomenon that may be more common:
"You left your dish in the sink." > the hidden request is "please clean your dish, preferably right now." since it's phrased as an observation, I don't immediately intuit the request and instead think my housemate thinks I forgot about it. so I reply "oh, I know." housemate thinks i'm sassing her and gets annoyed with me. only then do I realize she was asking me to do something about the dish in the sink.
"There's hot soup on the stove." > said to me while I was preparing a sandwich. the hidden request is "please eat the soup." since it's phrased as a statement of fact, I don't immediately intuit the request and instead think my mom thinks I didn't see the soup. I did see it, but I wanted a sandwich instead. so I reply, "I saw it, thank you." mother thinks I'm being rude and gets annoyed with me. only then do I realize she was asking me to do something about the soup (and furthermore is offended I am eating a sandwich instead).
"Your bread is on the counter." > the hidden request is "please remove your sliced bread from the counter and store it elsewhere." since it's phrased as an observation, I don't immediately intuit the request and think my roommate thinks I meant to store the bread elsewhere and forgot. when I reassure her I know it's there, she gets annoyed. only then do I realize she wants me to do something about the bread on the counter.
"You can turn up the heat, you know." > said to me while I was scrambling eggs slowly over low heat. this one really confused me because of course I knew I could turn up the heat, but I had no reason to as I was only cooking for myself. when I ignored the statement because I was focused on my task and had nothing to say, my mother added, "the eggs will cook faster if you do." sure, I'm aware of this too, but I don't want to cook them faster. I won't get the texture I want. when I reply, "I don't want to, though," mom thinks I'm being rude and gets irritated, then asks me how long I'm going to take. only then do I realize she was telling me to cook faster (because she wanted the stove), instead of simply informing me I could.
"There are donuts in the break room." > a more benign example, but similar outcome. once again I hear this as a piece of information being given to me, and thank my coworker for telling me. when I don't immediately leave my desk to get donuts because I'm finishing a task, my coworker hovers and says, "well? aren't you getting some?" only then do I realize there was actually a hidden invitation, and I was supposed to respond to the hidden part and say, "I'll come get them in a minute," or "no thank you I don't want any."
as I said, I've learned over time this is something many allistic (non-autistic) people do (as well as high masking autistic folks who have learned the social rules and wear themselves out following them rigidly). despite what I've learned, my default autistic response is pretty much always to take the words at face value (especially when I'm distracted or multitasking), before remembering I have to translate them. and while I can make a decent educated guess in most cases, sometimes I just cannot and simply ask, "what are you asking me?"
unfortunately, many allistic people suffer from an inability to take words literally just as much as they struggle to speak literally, which can further obfuscate communication. this is why I emphasize gentle reassurance that you are not criticizing them, but asking them to help you, a person in need, by clarifying their intent. people generally like to be helpful and I have had moderate success with this approach.
ONE MORE THING: I have a bias! this is very US-centric, as that's where I live. some cultures around the world are extremely direct, so autistic people in those cultures may not have the specific issue I describe here. however, every culture has its own set of social norms that include a complex combination of nonverbal visual cues, body language, tone/emphasis, and countless other unspoken expectations for what's considered polite or "normal." the double empathy problem doesn't evaporate in cultures that value direct speech. autistic people just face different problems. thank you and be good to each other
reblogging this version Again as the thread without this addition is going around and people are still complaining about my roommate. I understand that was a bad example, I do a better job of discussing my inability to pick up on indirect requests (that ppl Think are direct) here.
Ahhh this is such a good post! And I don't think OPs original example is bad at all. Every example here strikes me as EXACTLY what it's like for me to navigate communication w/ sweet simple allistics who usually cannot say what they really want. So much so they often forget what they really want in the first place while attempting to communicate ๐
Here's one from my life recently. I was visiting family in Indiana and we were preparing for a small gathering at my MIL's house. My husband and I were helping to get things ready on her property and we had this exchange. (Helpful to know "the gate" is the most logical/direct path in this scenario, and "the driveway" is more out of the way.)
Her: There's a lot of mud and holes in the lawn over by the gate, so let's have people use the drive way to walk through instead of the gate.
Me (thinking this is about mud/safety=problem): Oh, it's actually not that muddy! I just went through the gate fine...the mud isn't by there.
Her: Well but still, I'm afraid someone may fall on the holes/ridges by the gate. So let's tell people to take the driveway.
Me (still thinking this is about mud/safety=problem and thinking I'm being helpful for ensuring folks can use the quickest way): Really? I didn't see any ridges over there either. Seems fine to me.
Her (now clearly exasperated): SIGH. Listen! I just would prefer if guests use the drive way instead of the gate to walk in.
Me (now FINALLY hearing that this is a want/preference of hers and she's using safety as an excuse because she can't just state her preference and doesn't really care about the safety...and cue me trying to say this next part as upbeat as possible): OOOOOH well if you wanted that all along, I just wish you would have said it! I thought I was helping you solve a problem. Got it. We will tell everyone to avoid the gate and walk through the drive way. No problem.
She was quite pissed off at me after that, commented to my husband that she must have pissed me off (lol, no) and she stewed for a bit thinking I said a bitchy version of "you should have just said that from the start" and I literally had to circle back to her and say point blank: "reminder! I am autistic! I didn't understand what you meant, I thought I was being helpful to solve a problem."
Of course I apologized bc that's what I've been conditioned to do, but I don't feel the miscommunication was on me. We could have saved a bunch of time talking and like 2 hours of her simmering mad at me if she possessed the ability to just say, "Hey I'd really prefer it if people use the driveway and avoid the gate area." [Also she later disclosed secret reason #2 she wanted the gate avoided: she was concerned that someone may not latch it and her dogs would get out. Why wasn't that said?!?!? I'll never know.]
WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR THEM!?!??!?! HOW ARE WE THE PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?
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