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I would like to acknowledge the Boonwurrung people of the Kulin nation, the Traditional Custodians of the land upon which I live and work. I would like to pay respect to their Elders, past, present, and emerging. This land was stolen, and sovereignty was never ceded. This always was and always will be Aboriginal land.
And here we are everyone! The final update to the Life Tracker with all the chaos at the end! Apologies for the delay here - most of my timing notes were done by Sunday, and then the graphs were complete by the middle of Tuesday, and now it’s Thursday morning. I have no good excuse this time, but here it is!
Previous posts: Session 7, Session 6, Session 5, Session 4. As usual, below the cut is close ups and data and commentary!
There were 37 deaths I counted this session up to Pearl’s permadeath, and then Impulse died twice more before some off-camera life exchanges occurred (Scott showed the first two, so they’re here with their timings, but then after that no one showed when Impulse gained an hour (so got two more kills), Martyn lost an hour (so died once), and Scott gained half an hour (so got a kill), and as you see something doesn’t add up and given that immediately after they get down to their final life I have elected to ignore it and just adjust the time anyway). Then there are the three consensual lava deaths, and then the three final deaths... so there were 45 on camera deaths this session, plus some extra off camera time shuffling.
I actually missed two deaths from Session 7 as well - I had them in my notes so my number of deaths matched what should be, but I somehow forgot to put them in the excel data, so I put them back this week. They were when Impulse fell and Cleo got the kill credit, as when as the Grian double kill on Bdubs and Cleo. I have also removed the 30 minutes I awarded Bdubs for his wolf killing Scar so that he could permadie at the correct time - though I left the 30 minutes Bdubs got for killing Joel in self-defence as a Yellow, as Cleo’s timer shows that she still had this, so I wanted consistency there.
Close up of Sessions 6-8 together
Close up of Sessions 7-8 together
Here you can see all the permadeaths together! It was far harder to label these lines than when players were alive and in a nice orderly line, so I hope this is fairly clear. And a close up of Session 8 alone:
Crazy how Pearl was briefly the one with most time, and Impulse’s habit of keeping his mouth shut about his time served him well - two hours into the session he had 4.5 hours, while Scott and Martyn were both down to 2 hours (and Grian on 1 and Pearl and Etho on half an hour). Scott wasn’t kidding when he said he stole all of Impulse’s time there.
I also decided to acknowledge Martyn’s /kill at the end there, and made him lose the rest of his time there.
Another interesting thing is the fact that Etho and Pearl’s mutual killing of each other, where they both net lost half an hour, didn’t actually effect their final placements. They were on under half an hour when they died, but if they hadn’t killed each other, they still would have been under an hour, and still would have permadied. Grian was definitely on the most time at his permadeath, and BigB got so damn close to it before being saved. If it had taken Mean Gills + TIES even a minute longer to find them and kill them, BigB would have died then (and Pearl may not have lost as much time as quickly as she did).
I do want to acknowledge that Pearl did gain an hour from permakilling Cleo. Because it was PvP, the half hour got automatically added. However, because Cleo permadied, her death message took up the entire screen and completely hid the message telling Pearl she gained 30 minutes, so Pearl then gave herself another 30 minutes. Which means she may have otherwise died when Etho pushed her, but I’m willing to let it slide - Martyn also gained 30 minutes for an unknown reason back between Session 3 and Session 4 that was never acknowledged or removed. He also never fell below two hours until they agreed to equalise, so it probably didn’t effect anything, but I do want both to be acknowledged here.
I also created the graph for the average time per team again, in two forms.
First: where dead people are included in the average
And the Session 6-8 close up of this
And the Session 7-8 close up
And below is the Session 7-8 close up of the version where dead people are removed from the average
I don’t have much to say here other than I think it’s interesting comparing the two. The first one suppresses how much time Impulse has on account of Skizz and Tango both being dead, but the second one shows it loud and clear.
Now is time for the data screenshots! This session was longer than every session except for the first - they had been averaging around two hours, but this time was an hour and a half. Presumably, this is because at the 2 hour mark, there were still 6 people alive, and three of them had an hour or less to live, and 15 minutes later there were only three but at that point you may as well let it play out.
The first 50 minutes of Session 8:
The next hour and 10 minutes of Session 8:
The final 30 minutes of Session 8:
As usual the red and green boxes indicate deaths and kills. The blue boxes is what I’m using for the “time equalisation” the three of them did off camera. I really tried to work out who would have killed who there but something didn’t work and then I decided it didn’t matter lmao. I did do their three lava deaths separately though because I’m still being anal there.
After doing all that, I finally worked out a better way of zooming in on the graphs, by remembering I can actually force the axes to be smaller, which means more detail can actually be seen. So here those are below.
Life Tracker Session 1-4:
I also finally worked out how to rotate the text boxes because it wasn’t working earlier, and I think it looks so much better there!
Life Tracker Session 5-8:
Here unfortunately the text on the left had to be huge for the spacing to work, but then on the right the text had to be much smaller so I could try to space all the names out at the point of death.
Life Tracker Session 6-8:
I actually made the 6-8 one before the 1-4 or 5-8 ones, so before I worked out the angled text, but I think this still works with just the names at the point of death (the start of the name is at the point of death, unless there’s commas in between and then they’re all at the same point)
Life Tracker Session 7-8:
Lots of little details here! We’re close enough that Tango’s death can separate from Scar and Cleo. You can see vertical lines close together rather than overlapping as well which is nice!
Life Tracker Session 8:
This one I did forget to change the title, but you can tell it’s Session 8 only. Tango, Scar, and Cleo died within two minutes of each other, it’s so tight. And Impulse and Scott were within six seconds of each other, so that was always gonna be impossible to separate.
Team Average Time Session 1-4:
Team Average Time Session 5-8:
Team Average Time Session 6-8:
Team Average Time Session 7-8:
Team Average Time Session 8:
I also have a copy of the above four with the dead people excluded, which I can share if people are curious, but this post is maybe getting a bit long right now, and I think the version where dead people are included is the better one to show - more accurate to team strength.
I also made some other graphs while procrastinating this post (because I was procrastinating making a decision about some of Bdubs’s deaths/kills to make the time work), but I will include those in their own post as this one is absolutely far too long right now.
I definitely had fun making these graphs each week, so I hope you guys enjoyed too!!
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the energy every single tribute brought to the 75th quarter quell was the exact same energy that one coworker who just put in their two weeks brings.
“what’s the worst they could do? fire me? jokes on them!”
even when katniss was worried abt prim being hurt, johanna was quick to point out that there would be “riots in the capitol” if they touched her sister.
i sometimes think the capitolites could have rebelled too if the districts didn’t, there were enough in there to stir some shit up.
this!!! this is the point i was making with my post talking about aspects of the panem social climate that contributed to the rebellion. it wasn't time during the 50th quarter quell. by the 75th, the capitolites, victors, and districts alike were ready.
cannot believe it got to the point of him not moving on after sixty four whole years. and nobody sat his ass down and was like "coriolanus. calm down." ??????
i'm not gonna be over katniss' dad saving peeta's dad at the reaping, by the way. like how much must that vision have haunted haymitch's dreams on the train on the night of his 40th birthday.
“sweetheart” felt mocking and like an indictment on her personality to katniss but to haymitch it was him being reminded of louella, the first person in a long line of people he couldn’t save, a teensy bit a subconscious recognition of that fact that in another life he would have been something of an uncle to her, and, most importantly, a promise to keep her alive.
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god haymitch’s response to katniss’ reaction to the edit of his games is “almost, but not quite.” to her, it’s about her saying his force field move was worse than their move with the berries. but to him? it gotta at least be a little bit about what just showed onscreen. it wasn’t quite the truth.
something about the mirror of haymitch stepping in to pull katniss out of being completely idiotic and getting herself horribly hurt when gale is being lashed and burdock being the one who laid flat on haymitch’s chest to physically stop him from running into his house when his family was burning
you’re telling me that immediately after she volunteered, as katniss was seconds away from crying, haymitch stood up onstage and caused a drunken scene, calling out the capitol on camera, and then fell off the stage, effectively shifting the attention off of katniss long enough for her to recover? and i’m just supposed to live with this fact post-sunrise?
i actually can’t stop thinking about how the advice haymitch offers being “stay alive”, while a bit mocking, is likely also deeply rooted in the fact that one of his friends, his first ally, didn’t even survive the parade
every aspect of the games is rehashing trauma for the victors but how goddamn terrified must haymitch have been, especially in the beginning, during the parade.
he skips the parade in the hunger games. he isn’t there. and if he isn’t there when he already knows he’s finally been handed a tribute who has any semblance of a chance of winning, he has never attended a single parade since that first one.
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idk man, otho mellark going to see katniss after the reaping and promising to take care of prim (not her mother. prim.) means a hell of a lot more when you know that he would have been shot in the town square on the reaping day for the 50th games if not for burdock everdeen. like yeah. a part of him was certainly doing that bc of his past with asterid. and maybe peeta asked that of him. but a little bit probably had to do with that two-and-a-half-decades-old debt to a dead man.
This exchange from the First Book becomes so much horrifying after Sunrise on the reaping.
Cause yeah Katniss they can replace you, if they really really had to; they'll manipulate footage, brainwash some poor soul, they will replace you. Haymitch must have had poor lou lou at the forefront of his mind when he tried to assure her that Capitol wouldn't do the thing they have already done before.
so you’re telling me that after what happened to louella/lou lou haymitch had to watch peeta come back from the capitol as a “mutt version of himself” and question whether the shell of a human with peeta’s face was even peeta at all
He would never say it to Katniss. He couldn't. And even when he finally gets his voice to work he whispers like speaking it will bring it to pass.
"Are we positive this is Peeta?"
Coin turns to look at him, eyes unamaused.
Beetee frowns, "It's clear that there is some psychological damage but-"
"No, no I mean-" he wishes more than anything to down a full bottle of whiskey. Twin braids flash before his eyes but with a body too small and frail for his first sweetheart. "Are we sure he's not a mutt. An actual one. Peeta's face stretched over a random body."
He doesn't talk about his own game. He never talks about it. He tries not to even think about it but this... This is all too familiar.
Coin's words are clipped. Disapproving. "The Capitol is barbaric, but even they can't -"
"No," Beetee interjects. "No I remember. The second Quarter Quell they had us-" An anguish look crosses his face before he shakes it away, glancing at Haymitch. "It's possible. They've done it before."
And with twenty-five years to perfect their technique who's to say how convincing they may be.
Maybe their Peeta is still in the Captiol. Maybe their Peeta is dead already.
"Very well." Coin's voice drips with distaste. This is something she clearly doesn't feel she has time for. "Test Peeta's blood. Make sure it's him."
"And if it's not?" Haymitch makes direct eye contact, something Coin doesn't shy away from.
"Then we'll dispose of him like all of the other Capitol Mutts."
Haymitch leaves the meaning up to interpretation when he says only. "Murderers."
That night without the aid of his sweet nepenthe he dreams of a little girl who cried when given bread, of sweet bee balm and deadly pollen, of a too small body cradled in his arms.
And like he does most every night now, he dreams of the murderers.
“She’s my best friend’s kid.” Haymitch didn’t look up when Beetee stopped next to him, in a corner of the lobby of the Tribute Center, where all the mentors were, briefly, gathering.
They had discovered a few years ago that this corner was a spot with just enough feedback from the climate control system to mess with any recording devices. There was a way they checked, every year, to make sure it was the same, and he was already certain it would be fine. They never discussed anything sensitive, but chose the spot as their place to exchange limited pleasantries in low tones, reassured slightly by the tiny bit of privacy.
“I thought you didn’t have any friends.” Beetee’s reply wasn’t cold-hearted, it was a fact Haymitch had thrown at him year after year.
“I don’t. I pushed him away. Barely knew him by the time he died.”
“But…”
Haymitch should hate the way the older man could bait him into explaining himself. But he doesn’t have the energy. “But that’s still his kid, okay? And I like her, in spite of myself.”
“You’ve never been one to get attached to the tributes.” Again, a fact. Nothing rude meant by it.
“Things change.” He took a sip of his drink, just for something to do. “She reminds me of me. Just luckier, perhaps.”
“Oh?” Beetee’s face flashed for a second, and in that moment Haymitch knew Plutarch had shared the details of their conversation in 11 decades ago with Beetee.
Good.
“If she dies, I’m done.” Haymitch let the words hang in the air for a beat, knowing Beetee would understand him, exactly had he had with his previous statement.
“Haymitch, no.” Beetee’s response was firm, but sympathetic. And was not a real attempt to change his mind.
“He’ll see what it does to me, if she dies. And then the other girl will be back on the block a year from now.” Haymitch knew this conversation was pushing it in length, and he was already looking across the room to find someone else to greet next. “It’s for the best.”
“And if she wins?” Beetee asked, allowing the slightest hint of excitement to break through.
“Then I’m in.” Haymitch crossed the room and greeted Chaff with a hug, not turning back to look a Beetee.
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NO BUT HAYMITCH, PEETA AND KATNISS ALL PISSING OFF THE GAMEMAKERS AND GETTING POTENTIALLY THE ONLY 1 AND 12 SCORES EVER BECAUSE THE GAMEMAKERS WANT TO TARGET THEM ONLY FOR IT TO MAKE THEM STAND OUT!!!
They gave Haymitch a 1 to deter sponsors, but instead they made him memorable to them. They gave Katniss and Peeta a 12 to make them a target to the other tributes and wipe out the rebellion, but it only serves to encourage people to be their allies AND keeps them at the face of the rebellion
katniss received a 12 because haymitch received a 1 and the gamemakers already knew skewing the score lower accomplished jack and shit. making haymitch look weak did nothing; they had to make katniss look dangerous.
something about this makes me think how suzanne collins is just a writer like we all are and ABSOLUTELY giggled and kicked her feet while putting easter eggs in our murder books