hey, please at least read this whole thing. first I want to state that this is not an attack and that this is meant to just be a peaceful question
have you seen zeals Official response/The document he posted two days ago? (https://t.co/28AxqhHxYt)
The document covers stuff that ren left out and casts massive doubt over her entire document. If not, I highly suggest you read it.
she had a complete meltdown when Zeal's document came out and she's banned all talk about it. While actively telling people not to read it.
i am still not taking side on this but i feel like right now a lot of the evidence is pointing to Ren lied, And I get that might seem like I'm taking Zeal side, but I feel like in a situation like this everyone needs to know every side of the story and every piece of fact and evidence,
And I want to add that I read the documents thoroughly, both of them
As a victim of SA I deep down hope that Ren isn't lying because more victims won't be trusted down the line but currently the evidence is pointing to her not being truthful and just being upset about Being rejected
You'll probably block me and ignore this, but this is all i have to say
which i don't blame you if you do. i understand
I hope you have a good day, Take care, be please safe
Except that he's actively cut out information from that doc, it was exposed that he cut pictures of Ren explaining what consent is to him.
Also, I don't fault Ren for having a meltdown because if I were in this situation, I would've responded worse and I wouldn't want to hear it be talked about in my safe space. Sure, you can say that telling people not to read the doc is a bit extreme but again, it's a very traumatizing situation so I get it.
A lot Ren's 'lies' can be explained away by simple human error or as fawning.
I don't trust anything Zeal has to say because he's supposedly hospitalized and yet he was trying to join Ren's discord server (there's proof as a screen recording of the audit logs has been posted). He was also likely pretending to be his mother and there were screenshots of him being online on Roblox too, though I'm pretty sure that last one was debunked.
The most damning evidence to me, however, is not any of that, but the fact his biggest defenders (Zerum, Kat, Will) immediately folded the moment the doc released. They all have Ren blocked and played a part in silencing her before, if Zeal was innocent, there would be no reason for them to switch up so fast. This means that they are both aware of what he's done, actively covered for him and are now trying to save their own asses.
And even disregarding all of that, say even if Ren is lying, Zeal and other high ranking Devs are still terrible people and do not deserve platforms. They all have a confirmed history of being queerphobic and ableist, they have treated many people terribly, Will has grooming allegations, Zerum is a race fetishizer and has lied about her own race to get away with saying slurs. Both her and Kat have a history of mistreating artists, getting free art done for them and commissioning someone and then not paying.
Oh, and they also helped silence Ren, so there's that.
On that note, please don't go around telling people your trauma, you don't know who's gonna take advantage of that information and you didn't need to inform me just to make your point. I'm sorry that happened to you but you're a stranger and I don't need to know all that.