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Any details on this supposed Jonsa photoshoot? Xx
Hello! I shared this story with another jonsa a few months ago, so I hope you donāt mind that Iāve copied and pasted the majority of it here. :)
Itās very much a heard-it-through-the-grape-vine situation so please take everything with a grain of salt lol.
While at a Christmas party one of my family members and I were talking about the final season of GoT, and how hard it will be to make every fan happy, and she said, āOh! Listen to this, my friendās husband works in TV production as a photographer and heās been taking photos of the cast-ā (she explained to me theyāre promotional shots for season 8, and that he knows next to nothing about the show or cast.) ā-and he left for work one morning telling his wife, āYeah, Iām going to be taking pictures of Jon Snow and his wife today.ā And *his* wife thought he meant the actor with his real life wife so she says, 'You mean Ygritte?ā And he says, 'No, the other one.ā And leaves for work.ā
So this guyās wife is left floundering all day wondering who Jon Snowās wife could be. Finally when he comes home she whips out a GoT poster with most of the cast on it and tells him to point out to her who the wife was. And, he points toā¦.SANSA.
Now at this point, I interrupt my family member to gasp, āReally??ā She nods and I go, āThatās what I wanted!ā And she just kind of laughs, and thatās when I realize sheās rolling her eyes and grimacing in a kind of can-you-believe-this-show way. So I tone down my enthusiasm because I am the lone Jonsa shipper here I guess.
Thatās really all I know. Apparently the guy also had to drive the actors to the location in an unmarked van because theyāre being so hush hush but he said the Sansa actress was very funny and kind to him. He also thought she was too skinny to be healthy lol, but thatās just his opinion. Then we started talking about Dark Phoenix and how big sheāll probably be next year.
Now, I trust my family member, but I donāt know this guy. Maybe heās mistaken. Maybe heās messing with his wife. I donāt know. But Iām choosing to be optimistic lol. I donāt want to get our hopes up.
Fingers crossed, my dudes.
Arya is in love with Gendry, she never wanted to leave, but sheās haunted by her experiences and has a job to do. One she thinks she wonāt survive or come back from.Ā āShe never wanted to leaveā lyrics play over Arya looking melancholy after her night with Gendry. She doesnāt want to make any promises and thinks her future is bleak, itās why she leaves with The Hound.Ā No she doesnāt want to go, but honour compels her to.Ā I think Arya and Gendry will marry in the last episode. They promised us a wedding in this season. I want Arya to be happy and Gendry makes her happy. heās so head over heels in love with her, admires her, and respects her.Ā
Who else suspects that Samwell Tarly asked Bran who would die during the Long Night and thatās why he gave Ser Jorah his family sword?...Ā Knowing Jorahās father taught Samwell to be a man, Sam looked up to Jeor Mormont and Sam knew this was the last time he would see Jeorās son, and gifted him his family sword to show his deep respect. Sam: āIāll see you when itās throughā Iāll always wonder about this.Ā

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Is it just me, or does the shirt that Sophieās been having interviews inā¦
ā¦look pretty similar to her undershirt from her wedding with Ramsey?
Daenerys Targareyan: The Path Towards Madness.
Okay letās begin.
Intro: I read book 1. And then, I binge watched seasons 1-6 after season 6 finale. By that time, I knew all the major theories like L+R=J, dark!dany, targ!tyrion etc.
So, I was paying extra attention and these are some of the obvious moments where I felt they showed Danyās mad side show. Some points, you may find valid. Some points you may find silly and over-reaching. In any case, this is what *I* felt.
Feel free to have discussions. Appreciate positive critisism. However, just yelling/abusing will not be tolerated.
1. Lack of Empathy
Her obvious lack of empathy when her brother was killed.
I did not expect her to save him. I did not expect her to mourn him. I did not even expect her to cry for him. I did, however, expect a reaction, any sort of reaction, when someone close (despite him being an abusive asshole) dies that suddenly and that violently.
2. Her facial expression during Drogoās speech.
āI will kill the men in iron suits and tear down their stone houses! I will rape their women, take their children as slaves and bring their broken gods back to Vaes Dothrak!ā
3. During her Breaker of Chains phase, she conviniently seemed to forget that she used to practice not only slavery, but also pillaging while she was with her khalesar.
Master Illeryoi owned slaves. Her brother owned slaves. She was gifted slaves to teach her how to please the Khal.
Her husband was a war-lord and her khalesar constantly raided and pillaged villages. They killed men. They raped women. Remaining alive women were taken as sex slaves and later sold. That was their way of life. She saved Mirri Maz Duur and several other women from the fate of gang rape and murder but they were still dragged along side the khalasar as slaves. In books, the reason MMD was not sold was so that she can assist Dany during childbirth.
4. The burning of Mirri Maz Duur (MMD)
This is going to make sense to a lot of people. But confuse the fuck out of many. But letās see.
In colonized countries, we have a term called āSaviorās Complexā. It is where a colonizer raids a country, steal its riches, impose extreme taxing, destory most of its heritage and then expect praise for bringing something (could be education, technology, architecture).
Dany takes the complex another step above. She not only expects gratitude from an enslaved MMD while dragging her along with her khalesar with sole purpose of assistance with childbirth, she also expects her to save the life of her husband. The war-lord whose khalesar raided her home, pillaged her village, killed her countrymen, raped/killed her countrywomen, dragged remaining alive women along with the khalesar to be sold later. Despite all this, Dany expects gratitude from MMD for her life. This flawed logic however is thrown back in her face.
āSo, tell me again exactly what it was that you saved?ā
āYour life.ā
āWhy donāt you take a look at your Khal? Then you will see exactly what life is worth, when all the rest has gone.ā
This is an old age tale of revenge. Khal raided her village. She took revenge on them for destroying her temple. Dany burned her for it.
What completely bamboozled me in this fandom was how much people hated MMD for what she did while completely making Dany the victim in this scenario while forgetting that MMD was the orginal victim who was not only an enslaved prisoner of war, but also gang-raped victim of her khalesarās doing.
5. Ser Barristonās words.
Ser Barriston in Mereen, tells her to treat injustice with mercy. She replies that she will treat injustice with justice.
Another quote by Ser Barriston: āHe gave people the people the justice he thought they deserved.ā
Justice and what people in power percieve as justice is often very different.
6. Daenerysā justice for the crucified slave children
She did that by choosing 163 random Great Masters and crucifying them to avenge the 163 slave children. This seems like justice. But is it, really? They never recieved trial. They were never proven guilty. Like Hizdahr Loraq said, some of the masters were not in favor of crucifying children and tried very hard to stop it. Who knows how many other good masters she crucified?
This is a direct parallel to Ser Barristonās words about Mad King Aerys: āHe gave people the people the justice he thought they deserved.ā
7. She stopped slavery only when it benefitted her.
Some of you, while reading point 6, may have thought, āThey were SLAVERS! So what?!ā.
Well, while choosing 163 masters, Dany decided that all Masters are her enemies. She decided that all of them deserved punishment. She decided that they were guilty just for engaging in slavery while conviniently forgetting that if that were the case, she should be the one in the first cross.
8. She burnt Great Masters without even investigating who were behind the Sons of Harpyās attack.
After Ser Barristonās death, we again get to see more of her twisted sense of justice. By her own words, āWho is innocent? Maybe all of you are, maybe none of you are. Maybe, I should let the dragons decide.ā
It is not supposed to be called justice if you punish (and a cruel punishment, at that) without even caring whether they are innocent or not.
9. āYou are a conquerer. Not a ruler.ā
Time and time again Dany proves this to be true. She conquered Yunkai and left immeidetely. The slavers took back the city in no time. She closed off the fighting pits and refused to open them despite being told that participants will be free men who enter willingly. This is where ruling comes in. Any place she conquered and freed, she failed to put something else to keep up the economy. She collapsed the economy so bad that slaves were selling themselves again.
10. Wrongful imprisonment.
Dany finds that Drogon has harmed children. The correct response is to either train or punish the dragons. She, however, imprisons the two dragons who werent at fault while Drogon ran free. Does that mean she is not responsible for whatever terror or death Drogon caused to wherever he flew off to? What exactly does imprisoning Rhaegar and Viseryion get her?
What kind of justice is it where the accused is free while the innocent get prisoned for association. Again, feeds into the twisted justice train.
11. Twisted Justice. Hipocrisy. Again.
While many men were fed to dragons, Hizdahr Loraq was imporisoned. He begged for mercy in terror.She also decides that she will show her respect for Meereen by marrying a member of one of its great families. For a woman who was forced into marriage and āsold like a broodmareā, she sure didnāt feel any moral dilemma in making a terrifed man betroth her. His death though, proved that he was not at all involved with Sons of Harpy and he was imprisoned for nothing.
12. Burning POWās
Burning Tarlyās (father and son) was a direct paralell to her father burning Nedās father and brother alive. You cannot hide behind āIt was a war. She gave them a choice.ā No matter what defenses one can attempt to give her, killing (forget burning) POW is a war crime. So is forcing prisoners against their own side of war.
13. Defending cruelty in path of justice
She killed Tarlyās and defended that decision, by saying that was necessary.
When Hizdahr asks her how many men will have died to achieve her goal, she says āThey would have died for a greater cause.ā She is talking about destroying cities and sure, that must be for a greater purpose.
When Tyrion reminds her that about what her father planned to do when she said she wnated to burn Mereen to the ground.. her response was āThis is different,ā. How, exactly?
āThe easiest way to defend cruelty is to say that it is part of the destiny.ā
14. The insinct to burn down cities.
By s8e01, she has wanted to burn down cities thrice. Meereen - once. Kingās Landing - twice. Both times, she had to be talked out of it by her advisors. The fact that her first instinct when her plans were failing was to burn down cities. Direct parallel to Aerys wanting to destroy kingās landing because he thought there were traitors everywhere. The fact is that a person can surrond themselves with good counsel. But it is not necessary that the counsel is always heeded. Which is what happened to Aerys. He was going incresingly mad for months and his counsel members hid the fact from the outside world because they thought they could control the madness. We all know what happened in the end.
Since s7, Dany has been becoming increasingly paranoid about Tyrionās loyalty and increasingly more frustrated with every loss. How long before she decides not to listen to them anymore?
15. The entire collonialist/white savior imagary presented in Essos.
It is amazing how most of the fandom either ignores it or is just unaware of it.
Though this point doesnt parallel anything to the show, i just found it extremely cringy. I am sure members of most colonized countries would. I cant even beging to describe how cringy that mysha scene was.
16. The typical white priviledge mentality.
She wants to inherit her ancestorās throne and power. But she doesnt want to repent for her ansestorās sins and betrayal.
17. Wrong sense of entitlement
She truly believes that she is entitled to the Northās fealty. She asks Jon Snow not to judge her based on her ancestors and in the same breath asks him to hold up the vows of his ancestors.
But, whatever vow the Starks made to the Targareans was broken the moment Aerys decided to burn the Starks. The fealty was made on promise of protection. Technically, any member of the houses that Aerys burnt, is no longer accountable to the vow.
Still, she expects everyone to uphold their fealty but refusing to accpet that her father broke that fealty when he decided to burn the vassels (whom he promised to protect) alive.
18. Savior Complex
Some parts of Dany reminds me of how missionaries work.
āWill your God punish me for not praying to him if I did not know about him?ā
āNo.ā
āThen why did you tell me about him?ā
I believe one thing about Daenerys Targareyan. That she truly wants to help people. That she truly wants to save people. But her problem is, she wants to be the one to save people. She doesnt seem to understand that some people dont require saving.
She talks about freeing the world of tyrants and in the same breath refuses to give North the independence that they demand in solidarity. How is that not the definition of tyranny?
This is Westeros. I am not expecting a democracy and free elections. If she wants to be a conquerer, then she can be one. If she wants to bring to bring together the 7k, she can. What she cannot do is talk about destiny, talk about a wheel, talk about breaking the wheel, and and then do the exact same thing her ansestors did years go by spinning the wheel so that she is on top.
19. She was smiling when she saw that her dragons terrified people of Winterfell.
20. āThey eat whatever they wantā
Is that really the correct way to respond to people are already scared/cowering over the arrival of dragons? To people who have never seen such beasts before? Did she forget that few seasons ago āwhatever they wantā that Drogon ate were children?
21. Jaimeās trial
She made Jaime stand trial and was heavily leaning towards punish him despite the fact that she knew what her father had planned and what Jaime Lannister had done. She openly spoke in favor of the Mad King in front of Northern Lords. When Tyrion intervened, she publically breated him and questioned his loyalty. Further adds to the Mad Kingās paranoia and unwillingness to listen to counsel.
22. Jaime Lannister
Not only has he tried to kill her, he has also questioned her intentions twice. The only living person who knows about Mad King more than anyone is perhaps Jaime Lannister. When he questions Tyrion, āIs she really different? Are you sure?ā in a sceptical tone. If he doesnt trust her or thinks she had the Targ madness, then I am willing to bet that she probably does.
23. Her decling human connections
the show seems adament in making her seem alone. Like a stranger in her own home land. In an episode full of emotional reconnections, tenderness, friendships and relationships, she is shown all alone. In later episodes, she is incresingly shown alientated: Theon coming to fight for the starks despite being her bannerman, death of the Jorah, Tyrionās withdrawal.
24. jorah was her mercy.
She had shown jorah mercy despite his betrayal. She cared for him and most importantly, completely trusted and listened to him. When she felt no remorse about berating Tyrion and strongarming Sansa, jorah urges her to forgive tyrion and to try and make amends with LAdy of Winterfell. And, she listened to him. He is the only advisor she fully trusts and listens to without having to worry about wavering loyalties. And jorahās death is going to be the acorn in Ice Age that started the avalanche.
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This is not to say that she was an evil character. She was a good person with good intentions and bad execution with a twisted sense of justice and destiny. But, the journey to hell is paved with good intensions. Dany was a character who had the potential to be great. But she was always headed to doom. She is a good person whose downfall will be due to pride, ambition and obsession with destiny. She will chose her fate with a sound mind but a flawed personality. Her story will not be heroic, but tragic. Not because of what she was, but because of how she could have been.
āHeās little but STRONGā.
Brave, gentle and STRONG.
Tormund: shipping Jonsa since season 6.
The Jon and D@ny scene in the bedroom struck something:
She says about Jorah,Ā āI couldnāt love him back. Not the way he wanted. Not the way I love you.ā
Isnāt this literally also D@ny and Jonās dynamic?
Jon doesnāt love D@ny back. The the way she wanted?
Sansaās squad is time to remember!
Sophie was at Croatia with Lena and Kit
She confirmed it in an interview (x)
I mean I get filming fake scenes when the actor is already there, but as a show that claims that thereās no money for ghost, why spent money to fly an actress to a whole other country to do nothingĀ
so yeah, the picture is no longer in IG due to aggressive comments of the fandom :/
The question is: why was she there!!!? how and when is Sansa arriving to KL?

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Dany with the straight limp long hair and the robes gives me Mad King vibes. I'm almost certain Aerys wore a big robe in the Burn Them All flashbacks.
Yes, that was why I suspected the same. They do seem to lean into the whole mad thing, which Iām not particularly fond of. I understand why they use the term in-universe, but from a modern stand point āgoing madā doesnāt mean anything. Itās just a dismissive way of condemning someoneās behavior without trying to understand it. Sheās pretty much always been destructive, but other people have held her back and now she can use her own loses to justify what sheās already been itching to do for a good while. Thatās all.
just a reminder that this didnāt come out of nowhere and was clear from the very first season :)
at this point, i donāt even care anymore about what happens to these characters. i was invested in this but over the years d&d have worn me down until all that was left was indifference. and that is something to say because if you can take this big portion of wonder your audience had for your product and transform it in pure cynisism ā well thatās an art form in itself. and the worst thing is that they wonāt just stop in their tracks and wonder what they did wrong. theyāll see the criticism and deem it all as invalid because of the massive success they had thanks to the original source material, and will just move on to ruin the mext franchise. because thatās how these types of parasites are rewarded in our society.
Leaks most likely true
Jon goes off to live North with The Wildlings, never whole againĀ
GoT writers
āŖD&D: how should we execute jon telling his family the truth? D&D: we should make it spectacular, people have been waiting for it for ages. Also D&D: but like they would expect it to happen, letās make the scene quite unpredictable. D&D: how about if we cut the scene! I bet no one would see that coming. D&D: Thatās GENIUS!!ā¬

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iāve seen people blaming jon for telling his family about r+l=j and that h shouldāve kept his mouth shut like d/ny told him tooā¦
what in the ever living fuck
iām supposed to be angry at jon for wanting to tell his family, his family, the truth not only about himself and his parents, but about ned stark, their father, as well????
lol fuck that noise
d/ny has no right to demand him to keep this secret and to be quite honest, that shit is toxic af. sheās trying to isolate him from his family, basically telling him that he has a choice, āme or themā
flip the genders, and youād have multitudes of people calling out the bullshit. ever since s7 the j/nerys dynamic has been one that is very disturbing to me and it reached its most uncomfortable height this ep.
thatās not even to mention the fact that she just waltzed into his bedroom without knocking, threatened sansa again, that this whole exchange happened while jon was drunk off his assā¦
seriously j/nerys is toxic and abusive af and for the love of god d&d kill it for good next ep please.
not only for our sake, but for jonās as well.
Anyone else think Dxny is going to burn Winterfell down?Ā I saw the pictures from Watchers on the Wall last year of the set burning.Ā