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EDIT 06/02/2026
FUCK THE RADQUEER COMMUNITY. IT IS DANGEROUS. IT WILL NOT HELP YOU. THIS IS NOT A SAFE SPACE. GET OUT BEFORE YOU GET HURT.

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you were being extremely anti-rq even before the permamonika situation too, defending antis and having positive interactions with them using radqueer tags to defend antis
And by this you mean saying csem blackmail is bad even if the victim is an anti bc that's literally the only time I "defended" any antis lmoa
Just say you're a predator and save us both the time
you used to be so cool. you were my fav rq artist and I started to draw again bc of you. then out of nowhere you treat us all like fucking preds??? if you're going to make a hateful post dont put it in tags. please and thank you.
Thank you for enjoying my art but I am not responsible for your feelings. I don't even want to be anyone's source of inspiration tbh. Sorry.
Only posts I've used the tags on since finding out my friend was groomed have been important posts that needed reach btw. If you guys don't want to all be treated like preds then maybe stop bitching about shit like this. "Hateful" post and its just me trying to expose an actual groomer....ok, interesting take
Ok so your master plan failed and you might as well fess up now before we have to put our heads together and hunt you down ourselves bc you don't get to pull some bs like that and get away with it
Because its NORMAL and EXPECTED to be against abuse.
No it's not you dumb cunt you're legally allowed to hit children as long as you're their owner or get permission from their owner. And people will still look the other way if you illegally abuse children as long as you're a white cis person
Permitting child abuse is the norm, and the fact that you were completely okay with ignoring the predators rampant in the radqueer community until they targeted one of your friends proves that
"Umm, I'm not pro-homophobia or anti-homophobia. Being against discrimination is NORMAL and EXPECTED. You're a cultist if you expect me to be anti-homophobia" that's what you abuse apologists sound like when you bitch and moan about contact stances
You are one of the predators you claim to hate, and you are teaching the 14 year old you're friends with to see people who explicitly support raping children the same as people who are against raping children, because "it's normal to be against abuse, stances don't matter 🥺 (ignore the fact that the president of the most influential country in the world is a child rapist)". Every one of your kind (adults) should be beat to a pulp once a month so you'll be too scared to have these shitty opinions. Kill yourself you useless rape supporter
Ok come try to beat me then and let’s pump those stats up since I assume yr like 15 at best you slimy little cow
I don’t gaf I’m not a fucking idol and you can all go to hell for all I care. I don’t care if mommy and daddy beat you. MY parents tried to literally murder me multiple times, so clearly YOU didn’t get hit hard enough to learn to mind your own business. Hope they correct that soon.
ALL I care about are my friends. When will this click for you braindead no life spineless sacks of fetid human offal. I do not care about your stances or causes or discourse. You could not pay me to care less. I might agree with some takes but I don’t CARE bc I’m not an activist. Put this energy into harassing someone who does bc all yr getting out of me is insults and threats and you can go cry to mommy about it- oh wait no you can’t she’ll hit you 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
And stop treating Peter like an actual dumbass like why do you assume just bc he’s 14 he absorbs everything I say like I’m Jesus or smn. Teenagers are capable of complex thoughts…
If you want a guy he actually listens to 24/7 then you want Vince, not me

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Because its NORMAL and EXPECTED to be against abuse.
No it's not you dumb cunt you're legally allowed to hit children as long as you're their owner or get permission from their owner. And people will still look the other way if you illegally abuse children as long as you're a white cis person
Permitting child abuse is the norm, and the fact that you were completely okay with ignoring the predators rampant in the radqueer community until they targeted one of your friends proves that
"Umm, I'm not pro-homophobia or anti-homophobia. Being against discrimination is NORMAL and EXPECTED. You're a cultist if you expect me to be anti-homophobia" that's what you abuse apologists sound like when you bitch and moan about contact stances
You are one of the predators you claim to hate, and you are teaching the 14 year old you're friends with to see people who explicitly support raping children the same as people who are against raping children, because "it's normal to be against abuse, stances don't matter 🥺 (ignore the fact that the president of the most influential country in the world is a child rapist)". Every one of your kind (adults) should be beat to a pulp once a month so you'll be too scared to have these shitty opinions. Kill yourself you useless rape supporter
Ok come try to beat me then and let’s pump those stats up since I assume yr like 15 at best you slimy little cow
I don’t gaf I’m not a fucking idol and you can all go to hell for all I care. I don’t care if mommy and daddy beat you. MY parents tried to literally murder me multiple times, so clearly YOU didn’t get hit hard enough to learn to mind your own business. Hope they correct that soon.
ALL I care about are my friends. When will this click for you braindead no life spineless sacks of fetid human offal. I do not care about your stances or causes or discourse. You could not pay me to care less. I might agree with some takes but I don’t CARE bc I’m not an activist. Put this energy into harassing someone who does bc all yr getting out of me is insults and threats and you can go cry to mommy about it- oh wait no you can’t she’ll hit you 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
(Anon)
I’m honestly glad to see people step out of the radqueer community, I can’t help but see it as a burden as a non-rq paraphile. For things like beastiality and csam to be allowed to become a debate of whether or not it’s bad is enough of a sign that the community has failed to be safe for anyone.
But I can’t be acting like I’m on some high horse here either, para spaces have allowed these things to become debates in the first place through contact stances and letting dangerous members stay for “recovery” (I find recovery from being a predator through online spaces almost impossible tbh).
There needs to be heavy reform I think with how we treat these things, I’m tired of seeing kids be preyed upon, I’m tired of people being more concerned about language and labels than the safety of the vulnerable. I’m just relieved to at least see some put their foot down.
I'm sleep deprived as hell (8 hour bus ride do not reccomend) but this is well said and I wholeheartedly agree with you anon
do you not want to be associated with radclan anymore?
Radclan is still my intellectual property. It dies with me. If you want a new one, you will have to make your own and come up with original lore. I do not want or consent to the radqueer community using anything I created. Sorry.
They've become discourse labels rather than a genuine statement on an individual's ethics.
They have always been discourse labels. "Discourse" can range anywhere from useless proship discourse to discourse about whether or not it's okay to sexually abuse teenagers and children, which is what contact discourse is about. Contact stances were made by MAPs, for MAPs, to differentiate between the MAPs that thought it was okay to have relationships with teenagers (and sometimes children) and the MAPs that didn't.
You would rather side with people who are loud and proud about the fact they inherently support CSA (pro-contacts) than side with the people who may or may not secretly support CSA (anti-contacts). How have you come to the conclusion that "anyone of any contact stance can be an abuser, so i'm okay with the side that's explicitly pro-abuse" is a good stance to hold?
Pro-contact has always meant "I think it is morally okay for adults to have sex with teenagers" (at the very least, most are also okay with adults and teenagers having sex with children) and anti-contact has always meant "I think it is morally wrong for adults to have sex with teenagers and children, and for teenagers to have sex with children". The only reason there's ever been any confusion is because of radqueers like you.
You are still a radqueer and you will continue to be grouped in with radqueers until you stop being okay with abusers. "Contact stances don't tell you anything" is an idea exclusive to radqueers and other radqueer-adjacent abusers.
This exact mentality is why I think NEITHER side is healthy, actually. You literally sound like a cultist when you speak this way. No, I'm not part of your little cult, and I am not part of radqueers little cult either.
Offline and in normal society, do you think the average person uses contact labels? No, they do not. Because its NORMAL and EXPECTED to be against abuse. EVERYONE should be. But people like you and people like radqueers turn that into identity politics. I shouldn't need a stupid fucking label to know that abuse is wrong and neither should you or anyone else. I should not have to be on a "side" to be against abuse. Normal people do not function like that. You need to log off and experience some time as a functioning member of society. Maybe go do some volunteer work. Speak to people face to face.
You may hate me for saying this but I genuinely believe anti spaces are predatory too. I don't think its normal or healthy to create what is essentially a fandom around nothing but hate, especially when you also allow and even encourage minors to join those spaces. What exactly do you think being entrenched in that sort of environment will do to a young formative mind that should be focusing on. Idk. Being a kid and enjoying childhood?
I am not an anti. I am not a radqueer.
All of you are predatory and you are a prime example of that. Get the fuck out of my inbox.

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Did you change to be not pro-c? That's sick!! (In a good way. Good sick)
I honestly don't really want a contact label at all anymore. In my time in this community I've come to feel that people use contact labels- on both sides of the fence- as shields sometimes. For example, Jay claiming people only hate him because he's pro-c, and his remaining supporters believing that. A contact label is vague and doesn't tell me much about what a person actually does- what harm they do or do not cause. People with any contact stance can cause harm and I really do feel like- although well intentioned at first- these labels have been warped into a tool of abusers. They've become discourse labels rather than a genuine statement on an individual's ethics.
A better label for myself would just be "non practicing" in terms of my paraphilias that have the potential to cause harm. Its free of potential vague grey areas and clearly clarifies how I personally interact with my desires.
🌻doctor/peter
💕she/him + buzz/eek
🔞nsfw art posted here
🚫no puritans / predators ✨minor
🌈queer object who loves queers and objects
⭕️objectum and holotherian
❓ wary of radqueers. Be respectful
⏰ low empathy
(factkin of labbit1337)
my friends are awesome
friendly reminder/warning that this is the person who jacks off to rape victims' survival stories
its likely to assume theyre coming up with a new blog and identity to avoid any sort of backlash for that and to continue to invade safe spaces and harass people but thats just my theory
@evenradderassdog can you leave kids who are trying to get away from their groomers alone? wtf is wrong with you disgusting people.
Leave him alone seriously
pulling this card whenever you can is certainly a choice
it has nothing to do with that
this isnt a 5 year old they know what they post and they have full control over it
they ARE a predator and they ARE endangering people and they deserve to be condemned for it
even if they really are just doing all of this to cope its still wrong??? ive taken full accountability for shit ive done because of the grooming and abuse ive gone through because thats still fucking wrong regardless of why the person said/did it
if they truly want to be "left alone" they would get off of public social media
i am not going to leave someone alone who deserves backlash for the shitty things theyve done just because theyve gone through something traumatic, that has never been how anything works
i am literally just making people aware its not like this is private info either
also, irpai, you dont fucking scare me at all, especially ever since i last talked to you
are you retarded? do you genuinely not have a functioning brain? why are you stating peter's intention of the rebrand FOR him? you don't fucking know the inner workings of its mind, do ya, sherlock?
i don't know why you people think it's ok to estalk a 14 year old who never did anything to you personally. if she's not fucking going to apologize for something posted on a whim like a month ago just block and leave it alone. you're doing more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. you think you're soooo goddamn righteous. pussy
i think you might be a bit of a dumbass yourself man
im not "estalking" anyone they SAID theyd be moving accounts and STATED THE FUCKING USERNAME publicly 😭😭 so i went to check it out and reblogged a single post just letting people know who he is
i dont give a fuck about an apology i give a fuck about peoples safety this was never about any of you but i know thats hard for you to hear
every single time this guy even gets criticized you and your friends are so fucking quick to jump on it it makes me think whenever he feels attacked he just sends out a mass message crying over it
well no actually i like to argue with internet strangers who jump on my darling babyboo cinnamon apple because she deserves nothing but the best treatment ever actually
will you be able to argue with the people putting her behind bars too or
what crimes has peter committed list em give me the us code that he's violating
im just saying nobody will be surprised when he actually gets caught with abusive content on his devices or even does it to someone himself because thats the path hes going down and you are doing jack shit to stop it because you seriously do not care about anything but yourself and your problems
okay well he doesn't own any abusive material at all and all of us in the friend group are explicitly against that sort of thing. i don't know why you think just because we defend a friend that means we're a gang of extremely irresponsible adults who don't know right from wrong
and that isnt what i said, if you actually read what i said i was referring to him owning it in the future because of the trajectory his life is being set up in atm. i NEVER said you were irresponsible adults im assuming youre all mentally ill minors who collectively dont know right from wrong and are slowly destroying eachother with your own bullshit i give your friend group 5 years at the absolute max
im 19 ash is 26 joel is 23 and mammons 18. peters the only minor. i did fucking read what you said because i'm not a moron unlike you who thinks it's acceptable to continually drag a 14 year old for a completely unserious post. i'm referring to the fact that we at least TRY to be a good influence on peter and help guide him because nobody else fucking will
oh ok thats very fucking weird
you are not a good influence whatsoever, youre the ones egging him on with this shit at least publicly and again are setting him up to be a fucking abuser at this point you should 100% realize the fault in all of your actions
no the people setting him up to be an abuser are probably the people who groomed him
youll NEVER guess what i have to say about that
uggghhh meow meow meow meow meowww you don't know shit i'm not grooming anybody people of different age groups are allowed to be friends
How you sound rn.
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💕she/him + buzz/eek
🔞nsfw art posted here
🚫no puritans / predators ✨minor
🌈queer object who loves queers and objects
⭕️objectum and holotherian
❓ wary of radqueers. Be respectful
⏰ low empathy
(factkin of labbit1337)
my friends are awesome
friendly reminder/warning that this is the person who jacks off to rape victims' survival stories
its likely to assume theyre coming up with a new blog and identity to avoid any sort of backlash for that and to continue to invade safe spaces and harass people but thats just my theory
@evenradderassdog can you leave kids who are trying to get away from their groomers alone? wtf is wrong with you disgusting people.
Leave him alone seriously
pulling this card whenever you can is certainly a choice
it has nothing to do with that
this isnt a 5 year old they know what they post and they have full control over it
they ARE a predator and they ARE endangering people and they deserve to be condemned for it
even if they really are just doing all of this to cope its still wrong??? ive taken full accountability for shit ive done because of the grooming and abuse ive gone through because thats still fucking wrong regardless of why the person said/did it
if they truly want to be "left alone" they would get off of public social media
i am not going to leave someone alone who deserves backlash for the shitty things theyve done just because theyve gone through something traumatic, that has never been how anything works
i am literally just making people aware its not like this is private info either
also, irpai, you dont fucking scare me at all, especially ever since i last talked to you
are you retarded? do you genuinely not have a functioning brain? why are you stating peter's intention of the rebrand FOR him? you don't fucking know the inner workings of its mind, do ya, sherlock?
i don't know why you people think it's ok to estalk a 14 year old who never did anything to you personally. if she's not fucking going to apologize for something posted on a whim like a month ago just block and leave it alone. you're doing more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. you think you're soooo goddamn righteous. pussy
i think you might be a bit of a dumbass yourself man
im not "estalking" anyone they SAID theyd be moving accounts and STATED THE FUCKING USERNAME publicly 😭😭 so i went to check it out and reblogged a single post just letting people know who he is
i dont give a fuck about an apology i give a fuck about peoples safety this was never about any of you but i know thats hard for you to hear
every single time this guy even gets criticized you and your friends are so fucking quick to jump on it it makes me think whenever he feels attacked he just sends out a mass message crying over it
Me when I'm shocked by the concept of someone's close friends wanting to defend them (very common and normal occurrence).
You're weird as shit lmao but I'm baked so what do I know.
yes im so shocked right now
howcome you didnt defend them when you were first called out for egging them on, though? you tucked tail pretty fucking quick when you genuinely felt confronted
Cared about our reputation in the community then, and now we don't. The situation surrounding our friend now is also significantly more serious than the entirely predictable backlash from what was literally a successful bait post.
Simple as that. Now stop acting like a friendless loser, chud.
pussy
doesnt seem like a bait post when real victims are being harmed and the person who posted it is advocating for them to be harmed
i have more friends than you have with your shitty friend group filled with miserable lifeless idiots
Aww, I think I touched a nerve. The ugly little thing is angry.
LMFAO IM CRYING SHUT THE HELL UP 😭😭😭 oh my god sorry this tactic just makes me laugh the last time somebody tried to demean me in an argument they made a typo and got embarrassed
🌻doctor/peter
💕she/him + buzz/eek
🔞nsfw art posted here
🚫no puritans / predators ✨minor
🌈queer object who loves queers and objects
⭕️objectum and holotherian
❓ wary of radqueers. Be respectful
⏰ low empathy
(factkin of labbit1337)
my friends are awesome
friendly reminder/warning that this is the person who jacks off to rape victims' survival stories
its likely to assume theyre coming up with a new blog and identity to avoid any sort of backlash for that and to continue to invade safe spaces and harass people but thats just my theory
@evenradderassdog can you leave kids who are trying to get away from their groomers alone? wtf is wrong with you disgusting people.
Leave him alone seriously
pulling this card whenever you can is certainly a choice
it has nothing to do with that
this isnt a 5 year old they know what they post and they have full control over it
they ARE a predator and they ARE endangering people and they deserve to be condemned for it
even if they really are just doing all of this to cope its still wrong??? ive taken full accountability for shit ive done because of the grooming and abuse ive gone through because thats still fucking wrong regardless of why the person said/did it
if they truly want to be "left alone" they would get off of public social media
i am not going to leave someone alone who deserves backlash for the shitty things theyve done just because theyve gone through something traumatic, that has never been how anything works
i am literally just making people aware its not like this is private info either
also, irpai, you dont fucking scare me at all, especially ever since i last talked to you
are you retarded? do you genuinely not have a functioning brain? why are you stating peter's intention of the rebrand FOR him? you don't fucking know the inner workings of its mind, do ya, sherlock?
i don't know why you people think it's ok to estalk a 14 year old who never did anything to you personally. if she's not fucking going to apologize for something posted on a whim like a month ago just block and leave it alone. you're doing more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. you think you're soooo goddamn righteous. pussy
i think you might be a bit of a dumbass yourself man
im not "estalking" anyone they SAID theyd be moving accounts and STATED THE FUCKING USERNAME publicly 😭😭 so i went to check it out and reblogged a single post just letting people know who he is
i dont give a fuck about an apology i give a fuck about peoples safety this was never about any of you but i know thats hard for you to hear
every single time this guy even gets criticized you and your friends are so fucking quick to jump on it it makes me think whenever he feels attacked he just sends out a mass message crying over it
Me when I'm shocked by the concept of someone's close friends wanting to defend them (very common and normal occurrence).
You're weird as shit lmao but I'm baked so what do I know.
yes im so shocked right now
howcome you didnt defend them when you were first called out for egging them on, though? you tucked tail pretty fucking quick when you genuinely felt confronted
Cared about our reputation in the community then, and now we don't. The situation surrounding our friend now is also significantly more serious than the entirely predictable backlash from what was literally a successful bait post.
Simple as that. Now stop acting like a friendless loser, chud.
pussy
doesnt seem like a bait post when real victims are being harmed and the person who posted it is advocating for them to be harmed
i have more friends than you have with your shitty friend group filled with miserable lifeless idiots
Aww, I think I touched a nerve. The ugly little thing is angry.
🌻doctor/peter
💕she/him + buzz/eek
🔞nsfw art posted here
🚫no puritans / predators ✨minor
🌈queer object who loves queers and objects
⭕️objectum and holotherian
❓ wary of radqueers. Be respectful
⏰ low empathy
(factkin of labbit1337)
my friends are awesome
friendly reminder/warning that this is the person who jacks off to rape victims' survival stories
its likely to assume theyre coming up with a new blog and identity to avoid any sort of backlash for that and to continue to invade safe spaces and harass people but thats just my theory
@evenradderassdog can you leave kids who are trying to get away from their groomers alone? wtf is wrong with you disgusting people.
Leave him alone seriously
pulling this card whenever you can is certainly a choice
it has nothing to do with that
this isnt a 5 year old they know what they post and they have full control over it
they ARE a predator and they ARE endangering people and they deserve to be condemned for it
even if they really are just doing all of this to cope its still wrong??? ive taken full accountability for shit ive done because of the grooming and abuse ive gone through because thats still fucking wrong regardless of why the person said/did it
if they truly want to be "left alone" they would get off of public social media
i am not going to leave someone alone who deserves backlash for the shitty things theyve done just because theyve gone through something traumatic, that has never been how anything works
i am literally just making people aware its not like this is private info either
also, irpai, you dont fucking scare me at all, especially ever since i last talked to you
are you retarded? do you genuinely not have a functioning brain? why are you stating peter's intention of the rebrand FOR him? you don't fucking know the inner workings of its mind, do ya, sherlock?
i don't know why you people think it's ok to estalk a 14 year old who never did anything to you personally. if she's not fucking going to apologize for something posted on a whim like a month ago just block and leave it alone. you're doing more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. you think you're soooo goddamn righteous. pussy
i think you might be a bit of a dumbass yourself man
im not "estalking" anyone they SAID theyd be moving accounts and STATED THE FUCKING USERNAME publicly 😭😭 so i went to check it out and reblogged a single post just letting people know who he is
i dont give a fuck about an apology i give a fuck about peoples safety this was never about any of you but i know thats hard for you to hear
every single time this guy even gets criticized you and your friends are so fucking quick to jump on it it makes me think whenever he feels attacked he just sends out a mass message crying over it
Me when I'm shocked by the concept of someone's close friends wanting to defend them (very common and normal occurrence).
You're weird as shit lmao but I'm baked so what do I know.
yes im so shocked right now
howcome you didnt defend them when you were first called out for egging them on, though? you tucked tail pretty fucking quick when you genuinely felt confronted
Cared about our reputation in the community then, and now we don't. The situation surrounding our friend now is also significantly more serious than the entirely predictable backlash from what was literally a successful bait post.
Simple as that. Now stop acting like a friendless loser, chud.

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🌻doctor/peter
💕she/him + buzz/eek
🔞nsfw art posted here
🚫no puritans / predators ✨minor
🌈queer object who loves queers and objects
⭕️objectum and holotherian
❓ wary of radqueers. Be respectful
⏰ low empathy
(factkin of labbit1337)
my friends are awesome
friendly reminder/warning that this is the person who jacks off to rape victims' survival stories
its likely to assume theyre coming up with a new blog and identity to avoid any sort of backlash for that and to continue to invade safe spaces and harass people but thats just my theory
@evenradderassdog can you leave kids who are trying to get away from their groomers alone? wtf is wrong with you disgusting people.
Leave him alone seriously
pulling this card whenever you can is certainly a choice
it has nothing to do with that
this isnt a 5 year old they know what they post and they have full control over it
they ARE a predator and they ARE endangering people and they deserve to be condemned for it
even if they really are just doing all of this to cope its still wrong??? ive taken full accountability for shit ive done because of the grooming and abuse ive gone through because thats still fucking wrong regardless of why the person said/did it
if they truly want to be "left alone" they would get off of public social media
i am not going to leave someone alone who deserves backlash for the shitty things theyve done just because theyve gone through something traumatic, that has never been how anything works
i am literally just making people aware its not like this is private info either
also, irpai, you dont fucking scare me at all, especially ever since i last talked to you
are you retarded? do you genuinely not have a functioning brain? why are you stating peter's intention of the rebrand FOR him? you don't fucking know the inner workings of its mind, do ya, sherlock?
i don't know why you people think it's ok to estalk a 14 year old who never did anything to you personally. if she's not fucking going to apologize for something posted on a whim like a month ago just block and leave it alone. you're doing more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. you think you're soooo goddamn righteous. pussy
i think you might be a bit of a dumbass yourself man
im not "estalking" anyone they SAID theyd be moving accounts and STATED THE FUCKING USERNAME publicly 😭😭 so i went to check it out and reblogged a single post just letting people know who he is
i dont give a fuck about an apology i give a fuck about peoples safety this was never about any of you but i know thats hard for you to hear
every single time this guy even gets criticized you and your friends are so fucking quick to jump on it it makes me think whenever he feels attacked he just sends out a mass message crying over it
Me when I'm shocked by the concept of someone's close friends wanting to defend them (very common and normal occurrence).
You're weird as shit lmao but I'm baked so what do I know.
insistent on being pro-contact and whining whenever somebody argues against you being pro-contact and then doing a 180 when someone you don't like is the predator. always happens with you lot
Well there is this thing about the human experience where sometimes you gain more insight into something and change your opinion. I think they call that learning and growing? Have you heard of it?
Though I suppose you lot like to live in your little echo chambers and never challenge your own views so I can understand why you have the mental plasticity of a dried up log of dookie.
Boy you were not there the night they changed they're opinion, don't get me started.
It IS infact very easy to fall into "Pro-CC sounds good" when everyone makes it sounds idyllic, then the community acts like this. No wonder someone would change their mind, no wonder when a groomer can use "Yeah but that,shit dont count they consented" when the individual was clearly taken advantage of.
It takes events like these to change your mind <- guy whos collective has went in and out of being pro-cc, because parts of it ARE true and ARE ideal, its just too vague of an stance meaning all the way from predators wanting harm and those who just want to be inclusive to transids use it, starting a cycle too where people use such to excuse using the stance even if they ARE a predator.
-Adam