Blog for Anti-endos to vent, We've noticed a need for spaces for anti-endos like ourselves to speak freely, we aim to hopefully help with that. Please read our pinned post. We are not affilliated with @/Antiendovents, just inspired by them
We are a suspected DID system. we are strictly anti-endo (collectively), we have Autism, so tone may be difficult to discern at times, we may struggle with conveying tone, we may sometimes use tone tags to help with this. We block freely, and are of the opinion that if you don't like something, you can block us, or simply scroll past.
WE DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING POSTED ON BLOCKLISTS!!!
BLOGS PURPOSE; [PT: Blogs purpose;]
This blog is intended to be a safe space for anti endos to vent and rant about endos/non-traumagenics, we ourselves may also rant about them. You can claim Anon sign offs if you'd like. You may also vent about unrelated topics. see below the read more to see the extra information section
DO NOT INTERACT (DNI); [PT: Do not interact (DNI);]
you are endogenic/Non-traumagenic
You are pro-endogenic/Non-traumagenic
you are neutral on Pro-endogenics/Non-traumagenics
Radqueer or supportive of Radqueers
Ableist, Transphobic, Homophobic, etc.
BLOG RULES; [PT: Blog rules;]
Tag your vents appropriately please.
Please do not attempt to incite drama
Please be patient when waiting for your ask to be answered
Harrassment will not be tolerated, if we recieve any hateful asks, most of us will simply delete them and move on.
please provide plain text for your typing quirks/fonts else we may not be able to answer your asks!
No shipcourse.
more rules may be added if we see fit.
WHO IT'S RUN BY; [PT: who it's run by]
This blog is run by certain alters of our system, they are the alters most equipped to handle the risk of harrasment. None of us feel comfortable being named (as to protect our main blog, so most of us will be using nicknames or fake names.)
Sephy ( she/her they/them)
Beast (he/him)
Stake ( She/her)
Timestikhael (she/her)
Fircracker (She/her Arson/Arsonself)
Host (He/him) <- This is our systems Host
EXTRA INFORMATION; [PT: Extra information]
Are you affiliated with @/Antiendovents?
Nope! We WERE however inspired by them, and thought that if there were more blogs made for venting, there would be more spaces for us to talk freely. We do not know one another.
What is an endogenic/non-traumagenic system?
An endogenic or non-traumagenic system is someone who claims to be a system without experincing trauma; Which isn't possible as the only way to be a system is to have DID or OSDD and both those disorders are traumagenic (formed from childhood trauma).
Can endo neutrals interact?
No. Absolutely not, we listed this in our DNI.
Do you allow vents that aren't endo or DID/OSDD related?
we do, you can vent about literally anything, as long as you're not on our DNI. However, if you're venting about heavier subjects (abuse, suicide, self harm, SA, ect) please provide us with trigger warnings or else we will probably ignore it for a long time and maybe even delete it.
Subjects like that can be extremely triggering when no warning is offered, and tagging stuff allows us to make sure the alter who is responding to asks that day, can actually answer it, and also allows us to tag the post properly. Some of us are more equipped for handling certain topics than others.
While you can vent about anything, we do ask that you avoid bringing meaningless discourse in here.
Can I use typing quirks/fonts in your askbox?
You can, however if I struggle to read it, then we will take longer to reply, or may not repy at all. In cases where we cannot make it out at all, we will be deleting the ask. You must provide plain text for your typing quirk/font.
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Hi folk, I think this should be said so people are aware and don't go "oh man, where did they go?"
We are going to be taking an indefinite hiatus. We deeply love this community, but we also cannot mentally handle seeing it fall apart in real time, and continue to post. We need to take a break for our own mental health, which i hope you can forgive us for.
I want to make it clear, that we do not support the actions of the various people who are being called out within the community.
I won't take much more of your time, but please take care of yourselves and for all involved in the situations i am referring to, please take care of yourselves too, get offline for a while if you have to, just take care of yourselves.
Our inbox will remain open, But we will not be answering any asks. Thank you
when we were dating an endogenic "system", one of my headmates kind of locked themself in front to avoid that person. when telling their experience of how that went, the person actually gave them a present (since christmas was infact rolling around) and an apology that didn't fit the bill, but in doing so, addresses (my) headmate as if they were a new alter, so therefore said they must of not remembered them. ..then when they proceeded to show us what was inside the present, the first thing they pulled out was chocolate. something we've said we're allergic to. multiple times. :)
this is just an experience of ours and not the full reason we hate endos
sorry if this doesn't make sense i fell asleep halfway through 💔
Hii, I used to be friends with this one pro-endo who would try and force me to split a factive of them so that they can.. idk.. feel loved? They said "willoing is so easy! It's literally the easiest thing ever!!"
....
I'm a singlet BTW.
I said "No.. I can't physically "willo" an alter, that's not how it works?"
Then they said "Soooo... You hate me for existing...? You can go fuck yourself [deadname.]"
And I'm just like
damn
Are all endogenic systems like this...??? 😕 /genq
Honestly, i'd hope not, but i've heard many stories about this kind of thing, so it's hard to not just say "yeah, they're all like this". I'm sure some DON'T force their bullshit down singet and pwCDD's throats, but they're honestly kind of rare. Either way, i'm sorry that happened to you anon, and i'm so sorry they deadnamed you.
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if you told me it was actually sophie of all people who spread the false allegation I was producing csem, I wouldn't believe you.
Anyways, here's more proof of how much a piece of shit Sophie is! Make sure @/Vicanthropy gets the word too because it seems like she's also getting targeted by The Scatland Queen herself.
(tagging outside of my anti tags for more reach because oh my god please get this chick off the platform)
"heh... i'm always... 2 steps ahead..." is how she fucking reads to me. I can't even take her seriously. Unsurprised that she did this, but her and her like one million fucking accounts she uses to target people/communities, block evade etcetera make me giggling if only a fucking little. literally in her 30's beefing with children on the internet because she has nothing fucking better to do.
Just wna rant abt smth I've noticed and wna call out the irony in it.
Once simplyplural shut down, a lot of apps popped up into production. Simplyplural was an disability aid we used because it helped us track our haremates along with a few noticeable patterns in our system through time. Before its shutdown, we moved to pluralspace. We tried several other available apps during our search for a new app to use before simply's shutdown.
How come so many of these apps cater to endogenics? As well as CDDs? Like, these apps are disability tools. Isn't the whole endogenic ordeal being non-disordered, non-dissocistive, and non-traumatized??? You're not disabled? What do you need an disability tool to track your symptoms for if you claim you can be a system without the key factors that makes a system???
If you're going to make a disability aid, make it for the disabled. Dont invite these losers in. They're roleplaying a disability and actively trying to demedicalize a very serious disorder. That being said, yeah, I'm still using these tracking tools. I got nowhere else to go, and so far, pluralspace is what we're comfortable with using the most. I just wish there were more tools for CDDs alone.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm always open to different perspectives and points. Just to me, it sucks. Why are we allowing these people aids if they don't really need them?
[This rant obviously excludes ppl who confuse themselves as endogenic but are in fact trauma induced systems. Cause those exist. Im mainly yapping on about the people who forced themselves into being plural/multiple for fun.]
As much as i agree with the sentiment that if you are not disordered then you do not need to log your symptoms, i think it is more complex than that. (apologies for the ghost reblog, i misclicked)
Many apps that are anti non-traumagenics are often riddled with privacy concerns, we have seen this time and time again, and with apps such as these, there is bound to be quite a bit of sensitive information! If the app owners can look through all your information and then ban you, then I do not consider that symptom tracking app/website safe. While i disgree with Non-traumagenics utilising these apps, there is not much one can do to prevent such a thing without privacy issues.
Additionally, it may be that some non-traumagenics are experiencing symptoms of a CDD, I am of the firm belief that some non-traumagenics may simply have trauma but are unawares of it due to the very nature of how a CDD works, and so barring them from that resource may cause problems to arise. <- this is not said in a "oh all non-traumagenics have a CDD they just do not know it" way, it is simply me expressing that there are some (keyword some) non-traumagenics that may actually have a CDD, but are unawares and are in denial of their symptoms, and these people deserve access to the same resources as a pwCDD. I am aware you said this excludes them in the rant, but i still wished to bring it up.
To end this post though, there is an app called "berrytree" that is expressly anti-endo, and we have had friends report that they quite like it, and if you are still looking for an app that is anti-endo, I am sure you can check them out! Links are below;
As a note it is still in dev, but the android version is free on google and the ios is available on test flight in the server
The berrytree tumblr
A link to the Berrytree Discord
and here is a screenshot provided to me by a friend that uses berrytree of an ask they answered below;
Im NOT an advocate by any means to the apps that track sensitive information. I actually hated watching those apps arise because that's genuinely a dogshit thing to do to make sure someone is a "real system" or not. That being said, there could be apps that advertise more to CDD systems rather than endogenics without digging into a user's information. Its true i can't do anything to prevent endos from using a tracker, but still, the irony of them using one is still there despite their community values.
Like i said at the bottom of my post, im exclusing the confused systems that label themselves as endos but truly do have the symptoms of an traumagenic system. They dont count in this discussion. Its unfair to add them in considering they do exist, and i have spoken to a few on this blog who were previously (pro) endo and have left that community once they saw the damage it has caused them and others. My heart goes out to those people, as well as the systems still struggling in the community. They're okay as long as they come out of that.
Symptoms are symptoms, they should be tracked. When i bring up this discussion, im overall meaning the people who joined on the bandwagon of creating alters out of thin air who genuinely believe in natural plurality without any personally experienced symptoms. The people without the dissociative barriers, the people who think its mainly an quirky alters disorder who preach non-disordered plurality. Im just reiterating myself even if you acknowledged some of what i said already to help explain better, im not being rude its just how i process my own side of the discussion. I digress-
That part of the community shouldn't need an aid, I'm just pointing out the irony. No, we shouldn't have apps that track sensitive information or peoples digital footprints to see of they belong or not.. thats an illegal breach in privacy, and is an overal disgusting practice. I feel we can find a better way in narrowing down the endos in these apps if we simply change are angle in the advertising alone, make the target audience be clear without invading people's private information, yknow? But a man can dream honestly.
Its moreso the irony in how endos constantly state that being multiple doesn't require being disabled, but then some of them will turn around and track symptoms and alters that don't even exist. That's my main point. Also, i appreciate the suggestion! I'll check it out for sure. Thanks!
I see! Thank you for further explaining, I apologize if perhaps my contributions were a little meaningless/did not add much to your points. Regardless, I do agree with you, and I want to make it very clear that I do.
Also, i am sorry that you have a headache :( I hope it goes away soon /Genuine
Just wna rant abt smth I've noticed and wna call out the irony in it.
Once simplyplural shut down, a lot of apps popped up into production. Simplyplural was an disability aid we used because it helped us track our haremates along with a few noticeable patterns in our system through time. Before its shutdown, we moved to pluralspace. We tried several other available apps during our search for a new app to use before simply's shutdown.
How come so many of these apps cater to endogenics? As well as CDDs? Like, these apps are disability tools. Isn't the whole endogenic ordeal being non-disordered, non-dissocistive, and non-traumatized??? You're not disabled? What do you need an disability tool to track your symptoms for if you claim you can be a system without the key factors that makes a system???
If you're going to make a disability aid, make it for the disabled. Dont invite these losers in. They're roleplaying a disability and actively trying to demedicalize a very serious disorder. That being said, yeah, I'm still using these tracking tools. I got nowhere else to go, and so far, pluralspace is what we're comfortable with using the most. I just wish there were more tools for CDDs alone.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm always open to different perspectives and points. Just to me, it sucks. Why are we allowing these people aids if they don't really need them?
[This rant obviously excludes ppl who confuse themselves as endogenic but are in fact trauma induced systems. Cause those exist. Im mainly yapping on about the people who forced themselves into being plural/multiple for fun.]
As much as i agree with the sentiment that if you are not disordered then you do not need to log your symptoms, i think it is more complex than that. (apologies for the ghost reblog, i misclicked)
Many apps that are anti non-traumagenics are often riddled with privacy concerns, we have seen this time and time again, and with apps such as these, there is bound to be quite a bit of sensitive information! If the app owners can look through all your information and then ban you, then I do not consider that symptom tracking app/website safe. While i disgree with Non-traumagenics utilising these apps, there is not much one can do to prevent such a thing without privacy issues.
Additionally, it may be that some non-traumagenics are experiencing symptoms of a CDD, I am of the firm belief that some non-traumagenics may simply have trauma but are unawares of it due to the very nature of how a CDD works, and so barring them from that resource may cause problems to arise. <- this is not said in a "oh all non-traumagenics have a CDD they just do not know it" way, it is simply me expressing that there are some (keyword some) non-traumagenics that may actually have a CDD, but are unawares and are in denial of their symptoms, and these people deserve access to the same resources as a pwCDD. I am aware you said this excludes them in the rant, but i still wished to bring it up.
To end this post though, there is an app called "berrytree" that is expressly anti-endo, and we have had friends report that they quite like it, and if you are still looking for an app that is anti-endo, I am sure you can check them out! Links are below;
As a note it is still in dev, but the android version is free on google and the ios is available on test flight in the server
The berrytree tumblr
A link to the Berrytree Discord
and here is a screenshot provided to me by a friend that uses berrytree of an ask they answered below;
ngl i would rather deal with people who's only knowledge of CDDs are in shows/books where we are stereotyped as dangerous ONLY bc atleast its easier for us to dismiss those people as stupid & uneducated...
with endogenics its like wow why are there so many people glorifying alters 😭😭 and why are they being coddled for spreading harmful misinfo 😭😭 why does defending them include comparing trauma survivors to transmeds??? 😭😭 why are even singlets accepting them??? 😭😭 and why do i have to announce my "syscourse" stance at all when its genuinely so obvious that you cant have the disorder without trauma.
plural this plural that 🤦 their hobbies need to be plural bro why r they like this online.
already said it in last post. but i won't be answering any other asks that get sent in about shipcourse and whatever. I don't care for it. thank you. If you send anons asking about shipcourse etc, you will be blocked.
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already said it in last post. but i won't be answering any other asks that get sent in about shipcourse and whatever. I don't care for it. thank you. If you send anons asking about shipcourse etc, you will be blocked.
Hey man I don't wanna cause a fight so you don't gotta post this if you don't want to but Solivan is pretty openly profic and you've answered asks being against that stuff in the past so I was wondering like. Did your views on it change or do you just agree with their specific definition of profic? /genq
(I genuinely wanna know since this stuff isn't mentioned in your pinned as far as I saw, not trying to turn you against them or defame Solivan for their beliefs I'm just wondering what changed between then and now)
Our stance as a system is VERY complicated (go figure, alters in a system have vastly different views woah!). If i come across as agressive it's because i don't care about the topic and think shipcourse or whatever it's called is a waste of time and something we don't want to focus on for mental health. I'm indulging the ask because i think it's important to be honest.
THIS IS EXPLICITLY MY OPINION, AND DOESN'T REFLECT OUR WHOLE SYSTEM.
I think there's nuance. absolutely FUCK anything written with the intent to sexualise and glorify topics such as rape and sexual assault etcetera! But, i think if the writer is approaching the topic with the intent to tell a story and display how horrific it is, and how it affects someone, then who cares? I think people need to tag their shit more so people can curate their spaces properly. When solivan made their post we agreed with a majority of it.
Just because we've answered asks being against/for it doesn't mean we necessarily agree with the anon too. we're just here giving people a space to rant and rave. whether we agree with the person is another story. I didn't mention it in our pins because I quite literally do not care.
This is the only ask we will answer in regards to this.
Thank you Solivan. I don't fucking know how we got here, and i'm super grateful for everyone who's followed. ya'll are epic and awesome. I'm still very shocked and surprised but i think it's setting in and i'm starting to feel very thrilled. hoping to make a proper thank you for my followers so they get loads of appreciation (insert sobbing emojis here)
uuuuh. maybe cringe post. anyway. thanks for 100 followers?? erm. Wow that's a lot if you huh. uh. thanks lmao. Maybe expect a more thrilled sounding post. i'm just shocked that 100 people wanted to follow us.
Funny enough some of our memory issues extend to this blog 😭 like we'll remember an experience with endos and be like "OH WE SHOULD SUBMIT SMTH ABOUT THAT". And then we forget that we didn't actually 💔
Literally twinning here. I'll need to post something to someones inbox and then never do it, and then i'l THINK i did it. No, i didn't. i forgot
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Hrrng our host used to run two very active blogs but after syscovery stuff really slowed down for them. We feel kinda bad about it cause they were decently popular blogs (one was a confession blog and one was fic writing), but the demand of submissions burns us out so quickly. Some of us can't help but feel like we're just dragging the host down. These days most of what they do is try to work on us as a system and it's a big mental strain that leaves room for very little else
I feel like the romanticisation of DID and endogenic systems in general are the reason that any small shift in identity are seen as 100% proof of a system in others. No, me suddenly going from being cheerful to being kind of negative about something does not mean I'm suddenly a new alter. While yes, it is suspected that I may have a system, that does not mean you should suddenly push the idea that I'm becoming different people onto me? My friends noticing a change in my behaviour and suddenly they were all like "ahahaha you MUST be a new alter!!" and just ignored me when I was telling them to stop? Not every change makes you a silly new alter. I spent THREE YEARS being convinced by pro endos that every tiny little change ever MUST be another alter, and that I should definitely write it down and keep track because omg syscovery time!! When there wasn't even really any evidence that I had a system besides the fact that I was a teenager going through puberty, which obviously meant my emotions were going off track a lot easier. I just want to be treated with respect, not like some toy or party trick that people assume labels onto. Why does everything have to be about silly epic systems with so many people?
~ RB
