I find it funny that these comics inspired from Egyptian mythology have the same protagonist. Set, the Egyptian War God. They even almost have the same character design but different art style. Both have red long hair and light skin tone compare to other characters. I'm not really complaining. I love both Set with all my heart!
In Saika no Kami wa Negawanai (Japanese Josei manga), the story focuses on the relationship between Set and his brother Osiris while in Ennead (Korean BL webtoon), it centered on the rivalry between Set and his brother's son Horus. Both are good in their own way. And yes, both Set suffered a lot in their story.
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Hey, thoughts on horus/seth? Personally, i'm not seeing it so far but there's still season 2. If imma be honest... I kinda thought anubis and horus were the main pairing lmao.
Sorry it took so long to answer this but, I really needed to gather my thoughts.
So, laying it bare, when I first saw the thumbnail, I was like "oh this looks sexy (art-wise)." Like I didn't read the synopsis or anything and went straight for it. When I realized that this was based on mythology, Egyptian mythos, I knew it was going to be some kind of dark. I am not well versed in Egyptian mythos as I am on Greek and Norse but given it had to do with "gods" well, you can't expect there to not be any kinds of f*cked up sh*t.
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I'mma be real I am not 100% against it but I am definitely not for it.
Like if it ends up being endgame, oh well I wont complain but if I have my way, Horus will stay away from Seth.
I like reading dark stories every once in a while and enjoy the struggles characters go through and overcome but sometimes, a character just does not deserve it.
That said let's discuss.
Horus admires and loves his uncle (I'll touch upon this later), he does not want to see him suffer despite the fact that he himself has suffered due to Seth. Still, he finds it in himself to understand the why and how they got there.
Ok, but the situation as a whole is complicated.
Osiris, elder brother of Seth, husband of Isis, father of Horus, is obsessively in love (by his own definition) with Seth. So much so that he sterlised Seth as he "... was able to tolerate his marriage to Nephthys but, I could not bear to see you have a child with her. To give your seed to Nephthys would have been a waste......which is why.....I took your seed."[ch. 41]
Seth gives in to Osiris after being told that Anubis had been rid of his Ha(physical form) and his Ren(Identity), Ib(heart), Sheut(Shadow), and Ba(character) had been collected in order to be remade as a child of Osiris borne by Seth.[ch. 41]
Isis is witness to this after a confrontation with Nephthys, chapter 43 confirms that she witnessed majority of the interaction, what Osiris wants of Seth, his exchange with Nephthys, the soul at stake and Seth sacrificing his body to save Anubis of the fate Osiris wanted for him.
Now, Seth, uses Osiris's desire for him as bait so as to kill him and thus we continue the tragedy that we know.
Now why do I bring up Osiris and Isis and Nephthys? Because they are major keys as to why I am not of the Horus/Seth ship. Many actions spurred by anger and resentment and humane moral and logic.
Horus is by comparison slightly more preferable to his father but ch. 31-32, despite how it started is my nail on the coffin. Yes, Seth is not blameless, however, I do believe it to be in part his own twisted reasoning of Osiris's action taken against him that he tries to enact on Horus.
Some victim's of abuse fall into the cycle of becoming abuser's themselves if not given the correct help.
[CHAPTERS 60-62 ]
Horus had been young a and very small, he was, by his own words, kidnapped to be offered up as a sacrifice to the supreme ruler of the "gods" in this, ch. 60, Horus states, "I basically went looking for him[Seth] with my own two feet." the next chapters describe how from the moment he came to awareness of the world around him he was told over and over of stories of a specific someone, Seth.
He decides to go meet the "evil god", he does so because he wants to change his life. His mother's dagger in hand he travels to meet Seth and eventually arrives in Kemis, where Seth was.
Kemis devastated by war, Seth lay in the temple amongst the ruins, amongst the broken bottles of liquor, amongst the corpses of young boys.
Horus states that he could not understand why the one who killed his own brother and persecuted his sister for centuries, who mercilessly slaughtered humans and had everything looked to be in such pain and suffering. He could not understand the desperation in his face nor the overwhelming sadness. It all comes down to Seth's love for his son, Anubis, and though he may not be of his seed he is the son of his heart.
Horus is jealous of Anubis for having what he desired, the ability to choose and do for himself, to be loved and cared for by the one who ruled over all and gave his love without expecting anything in return. to be loved unconditionally by Seth, the one who would give it.
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Horus, experiencing Seth for the first time is overwhelmed but was hungry for more of that feeling of love, safety, and comfort.
Maybe I am misunderstanding his feeling but, it is still a type of obsession he harbors for Seth.
All in all, Seth, made infertile, made aware of his wife's affection lying with Osiris, told Anubis is not his son, coveted by Osiris and subsequently raped so to spare his 'son'.
Seth loses himself in betrayal, hurt, grief and love. With that he wants to use Isis to hurt Osiris and yet he cannot bring himself to do it. He pushes an ignorant Anubis away, Nephthys isolates herself, and he is left to pick up his pieces into a twisted amalgamation of stained glass in an attempt at repair or damage control.
I do not justify his later actions but I do see how we get there. You would think that "gods" being above mortals and on another plane of "divine existence" would not be so weak as to fall to such human things but it's explained that as time went on the "gods" began to adopt more and more humane traits thus weakening.
And he is not necessarily wrong.
For comparison,
In Greek mythos, Zeus slept with many "goddesses" aside from his wife Hera and mortal women, all because he was having fun. In his persecussion of fun
He turned himself into a ray of golden sunshine (Danae).
Zeus, who had already been perving on her for some time, decided that today would be his lucky day. He used the eagle attack as an excuse to change himself into a swan and fend off the violent eagle. And "swanduced" Leda
Europa came across a beautiful and docile white bull. Unbeknownst to her, the bull was actually Zeus - he had transformed himself into the gentle beast in order to lay with her.
Proving that Zeus cared more about beauty than gender, he transformed himself into an eagle in order to carry Ganymede up to Mount Olympus to become his "cup bearer"
This all pissed off Hera and yeah, she was brutal with her revenge and many suffered and died for it whether they were guilty or innocent.
In her wrath she loses any and all sense of composure and logic and lashes out in hurt. That by definition, this makes her weak as she cannot distinguish between accomplice and victim. And once again is that not humane action in the mind of a "divine" being such as a "goddess"?
It is due to the fact that Zeus and many other "gods" do not abide by human ethics of right or wrong that they commit depravity after depravity without guilt or concern for the consequences. And yet they try to apply or keep a certain amount of ethics to justify their actions, but to whom? Are they not "gods"?
To wrap this up, Horus has an intense want and lighter obsession with Seth for what he is and can give. I do believe he wants to protect him and does not want to lose him. I do.
But for Seth, I don't think it would be good mentally.
He loved(loves?) Nephthys whole-heartedly, he loves his son.
To be reminded of the one who hurt him (Osiris)
The one he tried to hurt but couldn't (Horus)
The one who sought a revenge that belonged to another (Isis)
Yeah no, as all pagan mythos I find that there will be no happy ending, at least not in the typical sense.
Anyway, I hope this made sense, lol. I really like the comic but man it hurts and pulls at my heart strings.
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He was back at it again. Dr. Drake was sitting down drinking his coffee. He was back in the My hero world. There were a ton of beautiful girls that he needed to play with but today it was a 18 year old girl named Momo Yayourozu. A third year at UA.
He had been there for two days but still he was having trouble finding this girl. He sipped the last bit of his coffee. “Damn never had to look this hard before” he said. Suddenly he saw out of the corner of his eye a girl with black hair in a school uniform. Her eyes screamed intelligence. It was her. He needed to find a way to get her in an isolated area. Then he remembered the motel he was staying at. He knew what he had to do.
He walked up to her. “Excuse me miss” he said. She turned around. “Do you know where the Hiashi Motel is I seem to have lost my way and my phone died” he told her. “Oh of course I’ll take you there don’t worry” she replied. This was going better than he thought. He had no clue if this would work or not.
They walked together for a while making small talk. He tried to seem as non threatening as possible to get her off guard. “Well here we are” she said. “Thank you so much honestly I’m not sure what I would have done without you” he replied. “Well good night” she said. “Well actually I need one more thing from you” he said. “What do you” she said as she was suddenly injected with something. “You tricked me” she said. “Young girls should be more careful, you don’t know when some guy could just take you away” he said as he caught her falling figure.
He picked her up and teleported her into his lab. He dropped her on the bed. “First a little fun” he said as he started feeling her body. She was a nice one. He removed the tie.
He placed his stethoscope in his ears and listened to her heart.
Ba-dump Ba-Dump Ba-Dump
Her heart was beating steady. Not for much longer. He pushed up on her stomach. She was starting to have trouble breathing as he was pushing on her diaphragm. Her heart started to speed up.
Ba-dump Ba-Dump Ba-Dump Ba-dump Ba-Dump Ba-Dump
Her face started to turn blue as she struggled to breath. Her heart starting to throw extra beats and pvcs.
Silence met his ear as she fell into cardiac arrest. He took the stethoscope out of his ears and locked his hands together. He started pushing down forcing her heart to pump at 100 bpm.
He then grabbed the ambu bag. He put it over her face and squeezed. Her chest rose as her lungs filled with oxygen. He squeezed again.
He repeated the cycle two more times. Trying to restart her heart. He listened.
BABABA ABABABABABABABABABA
The vibrations in her chest indicated that her heart was in vfib. He opened her shirt. He raised his fist and slammed it on her chest. Her body recoiled from the force. She still didn’t wake up. He raised his fist again. “Hey” *Thump* “Don’t” *Thump* “Die” *Thump* “Yet”. Her body recoiled from the last thump. Her chest shot into the air a little. *Gasp Cough Cough* she heaved before her breathing steadied and stabilized.
“Where where am I” she asked. “You, your that guy. Where did you take me”. “Quiet!” He yelled as he pressed one hand on her chest. He heart sped up under his hand. He had to let her know who was in control. “Don’t worry I’m not going to kill you permanently. You see I find pleasure in controlling the heart and today I’m going to control yours” he said. Momo had a look of fear on her face. “Wh-what do you mean by that” she asked. “I’m going to stop and start your heart at my will” he replied. “First you need to get all of these clothes off you but let’s have some fun with it”
He grabbed a vail filled with a drug and filled a syringe up with it. He found a vein and stuck the syringe in. “Don’t worry this will be the best feeling in the world” he said as he emptied out the syringe.
Momo started to feel funny. Her body started to turn warm and she felt a strange sensation between her legs. “What is this feeling” she though. All she want to do was touch herself all of a sudden. “What did you do to me” she asked. The feeling got too great to resist she needed to touch herself. “What’s wrong” he asked as he gently massaged her body with his hand. He gently touched her belly. He then slid his hand closer to her private part slowly. “N-No” she said but her body was telling the exact opposite. She wanted more. Then he started sliding to her chest. He gently pressed right over her heart. “You say no but then why is you heart pounding so loudly” he asked. “Please remove these restraints!!! I can’t take it anymore!!!!” She yelled. “Very Well” he awnsered. So he did but she didn’t run away. Why didn’t she run away. Here was the perfect opportunity but instead she started touching herself. She started squeezing and playing with her breasts. She removed her skirt and underwear and started rubbing her special area and she loved it. The thought of stopping didn’t come to mind. She just kept on rubbing and rubbing. Her heart was pounding in her chest. She started to feel out of breath but she didn’t stop, she couldn’t the pleasure was just too great. “Ahhhh Ahh Ahh” she cried filled with pleasure. She was close she could feel it then. “Ahhhhhhhhh” she cried as she came.
Her body fell limp on the bed to tired to move. She was breathing heavy. The immense pleasure was replaced by an immense pain in her chest. She clutched it with her hand. Her heart was pounding. He touched her neck, feeling her carotid. “Let’s try to finish the job, I’ll let us both feel it this time” he said. He placed one hand on her chest over her hand and started pressing down. He kept his other hand on her carotid. He wasn’t letting her breath. Her heart started pounding faster and harder to make up for the lack of oxygen. Eventually her sight started to fade. She could feel her heart throw in more irregular beats as it tried to feed her as much oxygen as possible. It was to much she could feel her heart suddenly collapse into vfib. She felt someone move her hand and a punch on her chest that stopped her heart for good.
He placed the stethoscope in his ears and placed the head on her chest. All he heard was silence. The thump had flatlined her.
He locked his hands together on her chest and pushed down hard and fast at a rate of 100 bpm. Her body moved with every one.
He stopped and grabbed the ambu bag. He placed it over her face and squeezed it. Her chest rose as her lungs inflated with oxygen. Then fell as the air left her body. He squeezed again.
He repeated the cycle of cpr again. He then placed the stethoscope in his ears and listened to her heart. She was back in vfib again. He quickly charged the paddles. He removed her bra revealing her C cup breasts. It felt like any eternity as he waited for them to charge. He placed them on her chest right over her heart. “Clear!” He yelled as the shock discharged through her body. Her body jumped as her breasts jiggled as she hit the bed. He felt for a pulse on her carotid. Nothing. “Clear!” He yelled again. He shocked her body. She hit the bed. He felt for a pulse on her neck. Nothing. He pushed the paddle to her chest. “Clear!” He yelled as he shocked. Her body jumped from the shock. She hit the bed.
She took a breath and another one. He placed the stethoscope in his ear and listened. Her heart was beating in a steady sinus rhythm.
She was still unconscious. This gave him an idea. He put the restraints on, set the charge to 25 and removed her shirt completely. He placed the paddle on her chest. He pressed the shock button. She jumped a little. Her eyes opened. She started heaving.
Momo woke up to her body felt sore. She felt a cold metal on her chest. She looked up and saw the man then looked to see they he had a stethoscope on her nude chest. “Why, why are you doing this” she said feeling defeated and exposed. “Because Momo I want to control your heart. Every beat. I find pleasure in that” he said. “Your truly vulgar” she said. He charged the paddles and placed them on her chest. The expression of fear formed on Momo’s face. He leaned in close pressing the paddle closer against her chest. “Yeah I am”. He pressed the shock button. 100 joules were sent into her heart. She felt it throw a beat with the shock. 200 joules. Her body stiffened, pain in her chest as her tachycardic heart pounded in her chest as she fell into respiratory arrest. 300 joules Her body jumped. She hit the bed. She felt a cold metal on her chest. Lub dub “Rest” Lub dub “I’ll get it going again” Lub dub. Her vision faded as her heart beat for the last time.
All he heard was silence in her chest. He locked his hands together and started compressions. Her body moved with every one.
He grabbed the ambu bag and placed it over her mouth. He squeezed it as the oxygen went into her lungs and her chest rose.
He repeated the cpr cycle four more times. She still wasn't waking up. He put the stethoscope in his ears and listened. Still, all he heard was silence. He grabbed the syringe and a bottle full of adrenaline. He filled the syringe up with adrenaline and proceeded to stick the syringe into Momo's dead heart hoping it would react.
He listened. She was in vfib. He charged the paddles and stuck them on her chest. He shocked her. Her body leaped into the air. Still nothing. He hit her again. She was still down. "Come on come back" he said. He shocked her again. She hit the bed. He listened. She had a heartbeat but it was weak. He gave her some one handed compressions to support her weakly beating heart.
Soon she had a strong pulse. Dr. Drake took the liberty of putting on all her clothes. He removed the restraints and took her back to her world. He left her there and came back to his lab. He proceeded to rest to think about his next victim.
(Sorry this took so long to post. I was super busy and didn’t have much time to work on it. But alas here it is. Hope you guys enjoyed it.)
Can you talk about Will's breakdown/seizure in Roti? Just anything you want about it.
Sure! “Roti” is an interesting episode to me because it’s so many people’s favorite episode, largely because of the scene of Will’s breakdown, and yet Bryan Fuller said it was the one that he’d like to have a chance to go back and do over if he could. As a writer and a student of how people respond to stories, I find this incongruity between creator and audience fascinating.
You didn’t ask for anything specific, so I’ll just wax poetic about what I like about the scene (which is everything, naturally). I tend to think of Will’s “episode” this time around as starting when he takes off after the Ravenstag at the observatory and not ending until after he collapses in the snow, since his hallucinations persist throughout all that, so I hope you don’t mind if I talk about a few things outside of Will’s scene with Hannibal.
We’ve been told to understand the Ravenstag as a projection of Hannibal and/or his crimes as they haunt Will’s mind. But it isn’t just Hannibal, it’s specifically Hannibal’s incarnation as the copycat killer (not necessarily the Chesapeake Ripper). So why does it lead Will to Gideon in the first place? Not only is there the sort of mystical question (how does it know? or how does Will know?), but there’s the curious coincidence that it’s Hannibal-as-copycat that leads Will to the Chesapeake Ripper copycat, which is Gideon. This parallels the fact that the Ripper led Jack to the observatory to find Gideon’s makeshift operating room, with a magical, personal touch to lead Will to Gideon himself.
After that, hilarity ensues, at least for me, with the line, “Who’s your doctor?” When I first watched it, I thought, OMG, are they really going to do this? And, Yes, yes, they are. I think it’s moments like these that make the show so satisfying for its audience. The creators aren’t afraid to deliver. I swear I’ve seen tons of shows that tease at something and tease at it and take forever to get around to whatever it is, but Hannibal not only promises us things, it keeps its promises.
When Hannibal opens the door to find Will holding Gideon at gunpoint, and he pulls up short as his eyes flicker over from Gideon to Will, before he steps aside to allow them entry—that shot might be my single favorite moment in the whole season. I don’t imagine that Hannibal is completely astounded by much in life, but this is clearly one of those rare moments for him. It’s no wonder Will is fascinating to him.
He gets his game face on quickly though. The moment holds a lot of potential for him, both for his wishes to be fulfilled and for disaster to occur. I’m certain at least some part of him was excited by Will dragging this man around and being ready to kill him, but it’s a bad idea to have that happen at his home, because if Gideon dies, it’s not going to be the kind of thing he can cover up like he does with Nicholas Boyle. He doesn’t have that much power over Will. And I’m certain he doesn’t want the FBI snooping around his house. It’s mentioned in Red Dragon that the sight of Hannibal’s basement was enough to make one officer retire from law enforcement entirely. That’s probably where he brews his beer, among other things.
Lots has already been said about the physical contact between Hannibal and Will in this scene, but I had it running on my PC the other day when my husband was walking by, and he glanced over just as Hannibal was prying open Will’s eyelid to peer into his rolled up eyeball. My husband visibly shuddered—he doesn’t like people near his eyes—and it made me think, Here’s a good example of trust between actors. To be standing there, shaking away, having someone who’s entirely untrained in real life prying away your eyelids…yeah.
I’ve seen a lot of people get really angry at Hannibal’s reaction to Will’s seizure, but I honestly don’t understand what else they would expect him to do. He sounds and looks concerned to me. When Gideon says, “That doesn’t seem to bother you,” the look Hannibal turns on him is quite offended. “I said it was mild.” I don’t think he’s at all concerned that Gideon is implying that he’s not a good doctor; he’s offended at the implication that he doesn’t care what happens to Will.
(I also love Gideon’s little eyebrow twitch here, like he’s thinking, “All right, weirdo.” There’s the pot and the kettle for you.)
Even though Hannibal asks if Gideon is the man who claimed to be the Chesapeake Ripper, he’s known it all along, after the Tattle Crime articles which showed Gideon’s picture. Since Will’s life is not in any immediate risk, it’s better to deal with Gideon and get him out of the house before Will wakes up. Gideon is dangerous, after all—not as dangerous as Hannibal is, but that doesn’t mean Hannibal has time to go all teary-eyed over Will’s seizure, even if he did have the inclination. He does care what happens to Will, but he’s doing neither of them any favors if he doesn’t deal with Gideon first.
For the same reason, I’m not sure what else people expected him to answer when Will asked, “Who do you see?” He’s not going to say, “I see Garrett Jacob Hobbs too,” and it’d be a bad idea to say, “Oh, it’s Abel Gideon,” since even if Will didn’t shoot him right then and there (and I don’t know what he would have done), it’d still end up with the FBI snooping around his house. “There’s no one there,” really is the only option that keeps the situation under control. Any other options put the ball too much in Will’s court, and Will is being very unpredictable at the moment. It’s the safest course, for himself, for Will, and certainly for Gideon, though Hannibal doesn’t care so much about that.
I experienced the same sense agony as everyone else when Hannibal sends Gideon after Alana, and then when he sends Will after Gideon—especially after the Tobias Budge thing went wrong—but it’s also no shock, either. It’s just diverting the situation to another location, but hopefully getting Will to go through with the killing, having his cake and eating it too (the cake is people).
The above shot is also one of my favorites. It reminds me of something I’ve seen before, though I can’t put my finger on exactly what. In any case, the painterly Technicolor aspects of the image and the grotesque ostrich eggs on the table, along with the slow zoom up to Hannibal—they all combine to make a really striking, eerie moment.
Will’s smile is also eerie, but I’m not personally bothered by the warmth in Hannibal’s eyes as he returns the smile. I don’t find Hannibal’s feelings for Will at all bothersome, nor do I belittle them by filtering them through my own sense of right and wrong. He loves Will, he is glad Will has not had a stroke, and if I were his friend and patient, I would find his bedside manner reassuring.
I do think people make a bit too much out of how much Hannibal touches Will both during and after the seizure, but my heart definitely goes out to Will when Hannibal touches his forehead, and Will tries to pull away but lacks the strength and ends up just enduring it and, maybe for a second, even finding comfort in it. It’s one of those nice acting details, entirely in character, understated but powerful, that Hugh Dancy brings to the role.
I’m sorry I haven’t more to say about Will’s breakdown itself, if that’s what you were looking for. It seems fairly straightforward to me, and people have talked about it well enough before me. As a piece of his gradual downfall it’s not really a turning point but more of a continuation of what he has already been going through. If there’s a more specific question, let me know.
I read a bunch of stuff about “Roti” recently (the Roti tumblr tag is entirely hilarious to peruse—bread, bread, roast, eviscerated Chilton, bread, seizure, bread) and I can’t remember who wrote it (might even have been on Livejournal), but someone said something which I thought was really profound. It’s that what’s really tragic about the scene is not the interaction between Will and Hannibal, but that Gideon’s aware from the moment he lands on Hannibal’s doorstep that his own story has been lost in the greater narrative between these two men. You can see that he just can’t grasp why his story was lost or gain enough information to pick the threads of it back up again. Even when he thinks he is “taking it back,” he’s really just becoming another tool in the game between Hannibal and Will. But since Will doesn’t kill him outright, he could potentially have real power in season 2 within Hannibal’s and Will’s narrative, and I’m hoping that will be realized.
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