Huh.
So there's this woman I follow on YouTube named @aketchjoywinnie, and she lives in a traditional village either in or near the border with Uganda. She does a lot of short videos on the local culture and diaries going up through her current day-to-day, which is that she has a suitor she likes and is hoping the tribal elders approve the match.
So I'm sitting here crocheting and watching YouTube shorts and she just straight-up rewired my brain chemistry. She's explaining how dowry works, and then she said "in some western cultures, the dowry can be an expensive ring."
HOLY FUCK
Like
She's not wrong
She's absolutely not wrong
We tend to view an engagement ring these days as consumerism for consumerism's sake but it was historically a way for a man to show he had the wealth to care for a wife, and, should anything happen to him, it was something she could sell to support herself through the mourning period while her family helped her get everything back together.
"If you can propose with a dowry of a ring, why can't you propose with a dowry of fifty goats?"
SHE'S NOT WRONG.
(Also you should go give her a follow. She's so sweet and joyful and I love her.)
Bride gift, not dowry. Bride gift comes from the man or his family, dowry comes from the bride's family. And yes, jewelry has always been both a way to display wealth and a source of emergency cash.
There are a number of ways money can change hands at a marriage. Sometimes it goes to the couple, to help them establish themselves, sometimes it goes from one family to another.
My brother in law's wife grew up in rural China, an only child (of course). When he traveled there to meet her parents, he understood that he would be expected to provide a substantial gift to her parents, enough to help ease their old age. They were Chinese village middle class, but he's urban American middle class and thus far wealthier.
He thought he might have to buy goats, but it turned out her parents wanted a boat. A nice little fishing boat with a motor and fish-finding sonar.
And that's what they got.
I'm just saying what she called it. I'm assuming she knows her culture better than we do.
Well, she might not be as familiar with the English language terminology because the British had dowry instead of bride price, so we don't have as much experience with the term.
Bride price says "women are highly valuable. If you want our daughter, you must compensate us for the loss." Dowry says "women are a huge burden. We will pay you to take our daughter off our hands." They are actually enormously different and have very different implications for women.
Her culture may call it dowry when they speak English, but the British, who for obvious reasons invented most of the words we speak when we speak English, had dowry as a cultural thing, and when they encountered societies that did the opposite, they didn't call it "male dowry" or "reverse dowry" or something, they coined a completely different phrase. (A phrase that itself carried sexist implications, as it was positing that women in that culture were property that could be sold... in most cultures with bride price, it is not thought of as buying a family's daughter but as compensating them for losing her labor. Which just goes to show you that people who have dowry find it very hard to comprehend women being valuable in a culture.)
Anyway, as a native English speaker, I wouldn't call it dowry even if she does, because the word "dowry" has a specific meaning in English and what she's talking about is actually neither dowry nor bride price. It's the man paying the woman for her companionship and labor, or, viewed another way, it is the man expressing that he can take care of the woman, as the woman in the video said. It's given directly to the woman on marriage, not to her parents, so it's not bride price... but because it's given to the woman and not to the man, it's not dowry.
(Another interpretation of dowry, more charitable, is that it consists of things the woman will use to make a household -- cups and plates, cutlery, blankets, etc -- so it's not a gift to the man, it's the property she brings to the marriage in order to immediately get started on the work of a wife. But I have also heard this referred to as a hope chest, assembled by a girl as she grows into a woman in "hope" that someday she will marry, in which case it's not a dowry because the girl herself is building it and she will keep it, she'll just share it with her husband.)
Damn, this shit is complicated. :-)























