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whyyy do we never talk about this scene why do we never talk about these two. about how emotional the whole thing is or how jp is never brought up again. how this scene is immediately after the one where sid is having goodbye sex with gwen. like thats an insane pair of scenes to mash together. also the way they're so reluctant to depart from each other and the SALUTE which symbolizes so many things they can never truly put into words. the poker winnings of them both going to jp's wife....
"As I looked at the stains on the coral, I recalled some of the eloquent phrases of politicians and newsmen, about how 'gallant' it is for a man to 'shed his blood for his country,' and 'to give his life's blood as a sacrifice,' and so on. The words seemed so ridiculous. Only the flies benefited." - With the Old Breed by Eugene B. Sledge, pg. 146
"Of my battalion—a force of some fifteen hundred men—there remained but twenty-eight effectives when the command came for the last assault on that honeycomb of caves and pillboxes which the Japanese had carved into Bloody Nose Ridge—in men and blood and agony the most costly spit of land in the wide Pacific. When the command came, they rose from their holes like shades from sepulchers… and advanced. They could not run, they could barely walk—and they dragged their weapons. But they obeyed, and they attacked. They were taken from the line on the brink of collapse." - Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie, pg. 299
"For the men of K/3/5, their thirty days in hell not only cemented lasting friendships but became the catalyst for an almost spiritual fellowship—one that will endear them to one another for as long as any of them live. 'The Marines in my company were the finest men I've ever known,' recalled PFC Bill Leyden [...] 'Instead of counting sheep when I'm having trouble sleeping, I count the brave and wonderful men I was privileged to know and love as my comrades—forever. I see these men as clearly now as I saw them then, and I always will.'" - Brotherhood of Heroes by Bill Sloan, pg. 311
THE PACIFIC (2010)
The Battle of Peleliu — Landing, Airfield, & Hills
occasionally, you will discover an artist who drew roughly 300 beautiful pictures of your favorite characters over the course of a month and then never touched them again. you must accept this as a gift.
Highlights, Tidbits, and Clips from Band of Brothers 25th Anniversary Symposium Cast & Crew Panels: DAY TWO
PANEL ONE
Kirk Saduski (producer) and Michael Cudlitz (Bull Randleman) moderated the panel.
Actors Ben Caplan (Smokey Gordon), James Madio (Perconte), Dexter Fletcher (Martin), Richard Speight (Skip Muck), Frank John Hughes (Guarnere). Tony To (producer and director), Billy Fox (editor and producer), Remi Adefarasin (cinematographer), Erik Bork (writer of E8 and E10), and Dale Dye (who arrived fashionably late), as well as a video message Graham Yost (writer of E4 and E7).
PANEL TWO
Moderated by Ross McCall (Liebgott)
Tim Matthews (Penkala), Robin Laing (Babe), Shane Taylor (Roe), Rick Gomez (Luz), Matthew Settle (Speirs), Eion Bailey (Webster), and Ross McCall. Producers Ian Schwarz, Tony To, director David Frankel (E7 & E9) and writer Bruce McKenna (wrote E6, co-wrote E4 and e8). There was a video message from Rick Warden (Harry) at the beginning, and another from Nick Aaron (Popeye) at the end.
PANEL THREE
Moderated by Michael Cudlitz (Bull) and Frank John Hughes (Guarnere)
Rick Gomez, Robin Laing, Ross McCall, James Madio, Dexter Fletcher, Richard Speight,, Ben Caplan, Eion Bailey, Tim Matthews, Matthew Settle, Shane Taylor, and, from yesterday’s panels: Rene Moreno (Ramirez) and Peter Youngblood Hills (Shifty). It began with a video message from Scott Grimes (Malarkey) and, at the end, a video message from Damian Lewis (Dick Winters)
Video Message Highlights
- Scott Grimes set the third panel off to a great start, and is worth watching: Here’s a link to the clip
- Damian Lewis's video message at the end is worth watching, too: Here's the link
- Michael Cudlitz was asked to say on behalf of Kirk Acevedo (Toye) that "he really wanted to be here, and up until the last minute thought he was going to make it, but fortunately/unfortunately he is working. But he definitely wanted to be here, and he sends his love." 🥺
- Writer Graham Yost dug out a custom shirt that he’d had made during production:
- Graham ended his message saying: “I hope you have fun this weekend, and I'll see you again for the 50th.”
- Rick Warden: “My main hello is to the lads: Hey guys, love you. Love you forever.” 🥹😭
GENERAL TIDBITS
- Dexter Fletcher with his to-go cup at the 9 a.m. panel is such a mood
Tony To: Amy McKenzie, Terri DePaolo, and Jennifer Jackson were the glue that kept the production running
Michael Cudlitz: Basically it was like World War II: the men were running around pretending to do things, and the women made it all happen.
- The scene from Episode 1 in which Sobel denies their weekend passes and the night march scene were not originally in the episode. They were added after editor Billy Fox advised Tony To that the episode needed more emotional and character moments
- The episodes were shot in the following order: 1, 2, 3, 5, 4, 9, 10, 7, 8
- Their last week of filming was the week of Thanksgiving, and many of the cast threw a party that Thursday to celebrate, and then the next day they finished filming
- After filming ended, Matthew Settle had the suggestion that they all burn their Corcoran boots on the airfield in a symbolic fire
- Bruce McKenna, giving a shout out to vets from the book who they didn't have time to focus on (Ranney, Burr, Buck Taylor, etc.): “You could make this miniseries again and focus on other guys in the company, and it would be just as powerful and interesting and dramatic.” (me: i guess i'll file that under 'things i didn't know i needed until just now')
Matthew: My name is Matthew Settle and I played Rufus on Gossip Girl
Rick: My name is Rick Gomez and I WISH I’d played Rufus on Gossip Girl
- Baberoe confab
- Luz's line: “That dog just ain't gonna hunt” wasn’t in the script. It was suggested by Richard Speight as he and Rick were rehearsing in the van on the way to set to film that scene
- Eion Bailey shouts out to Webster’s book Parachute Infantry multiple times
- Shane Taylor called Ron Livingston “as sharp in mind as he in in looks”
- Matthew once carpooled to set with Jimmy Fallon
- James Madio was roommates with Matthew during the filming of Episode 8, and he almost burned down his London apartment. (Madio had left hard-boiled eggs on the stove and left to go shopping. He received a call from the front desk guy, telling him the fire brigade was here, and that: “I’m afraid your eggs have burst.” They had to move because apartment was uninhabitable.)
Dale Dye: I think too much is being made of my contributions…
Frank John Hughes: I’m working on a statue for him. The paver (announced yesterday) was first but we’ll get him a statue.
- One time, to get out of coming into work just to be in the background of a scene, Rick lied to Dale Dye and claimed that he had plans to go to Paris for the weekend. Afterwards, having a panic attack from guilt, he went to Ron, who told him: “I don’t know, man, put on a beret and grab a baguette and come into work on Monday.” 🥖🤷🏻♂️ (He, Ron, and Madio ended up actually going to Paris for the weekend, and had a great time.)
- Robin, when asked about characters wished they'd been able to interact w/ more in the show, gave shout-out to Hoobler and his actor, Peter McCabe
- Robin: I was telling Richard: "You know who is really, really great and underrated in the show?'" and I said: "Pete McCabe," and he went: "Exactly!"
- Madio: I would've liked to have a scene with some of the actors who only had one or two episodes... Maybe would've liked to have punched Tom Hardy in the face... ("I mean not now, Tom, not now! I know what you do, I've seen you, not now. He’ll tear me apart.")
- Matthew used to drive a Prius
- Richard does a distinctly Muppet-like Tom Hanks impression (watch the full clip here)
- Madio said that his wool coat was so big on him it dragged on the floor, and that his main goal during filming episodes 6 and 7 was just to not let it to be noticed how overgrown that coat looked 🍎🍎🍎
- To recreate the vibe of the guys being pissed off at Webster for being gone during Bastogne and coming back fresh-faced, Eion went off and toured Europe while the rest of the cast were filming Episodes 6 and 7 💀
On Winnix
- Ross (on the crew of characters): You take Winters and Nixon to one side, they’re in a universe of their own
- Dexter: There was a really special relationship between Damian and Ron . . . there was something very special, and dare I use the word magical, about that relationship that they created in the middle of all the kind of craziness that was going on with the rest of us. And that was something personally that I really admired, the kind of easy, really important friendship that those two created . . . We had our camaraderie and our busting each each other's balls and all that sort of stuff, but those two just really stood out for me, and especially when you watch back the series as well, there's something really sort of special and important about that 👀
Michael Kamen and the Opening Score
- According to Tony To, Michael Kamen’s parents were survivors of the Krakow concentration camp, and he was deeply connected to WWII and this story
Madio: Well, oddly enough w/ the score, 25 years later, I still work out to it . . . So don't play it right now, or I’ll start doing push-ups for “General Dye” over here.
Richard: I can’t listen to it. It’s too emotional for me. I literally cannot. You're gonna do pushups, I'm gonna cry
Michael: I do both. I’m doing push-ups, sobbing-
Richard: -you’re crawling away from an imaginary tank
Michael: (The opening score) is stolen a lot. . . You're sort of like, "Oh, that sounds like..."
Richard: My wife and I’ll be watching something, and I’m like: “Dah! They ripped off Kamen! I’m out.” And somewhere Jimmy's doing push-ups to the wrong movie.
More Bootcamp Lore
- Ben Caplan (on how it started off): We met, we chatted, we laughed, and then we got told to change into uniform. Then the cadre arrived... I just remember a hell of a lot of shouting, organizing us into our platoons, and then getting on a coach, and it was silent. I remember sitting on that coach going to Longmoor… Not a word was spoken for the whole journey
- Michael: We're a bunch of young jerk-offs, we're not quiet. But nobody’s joking. We're sitting there, we're like:
- Dye: Both Rick and (Michael) could do an imitation of me, and they would do it at the damndest times. Not knowing it was two of them, I said to my cadre guys: "Find out who that little shit is.”
- Madio: (Although absolutely no cameras were allowed) I snuck in a small disposable camera Meg (Liberman) gave me to take some pictures (Frank: “She knew you knew how to handle contraband.”) One time, a flash went off at night, which Michael saw, and he decided to doing an impression of Dale Dye and sneak up on him, and Madio said: “Oh shit, it’s the Cap!” panicked, and threw it out the window
- Madio implied that he still has the photos from that camera ‼️👀
- Dale Dye didn’t know about the little video camera which they gave Ron to sneak into bootcamp to record the video diary, until Dye was giving a speech at the end of bootcamp and said: “Geez, I wish we would’ve recorded this,” and Ron told him: “We did.”
- Madio: Donnie (Wahlberg) was a good prankster, one of the best. With a straight face, Donnie suggested that it was a good idea for me to ask Dye whether I could call my girlfriend . . . Afterwards, I was like: "I'm gonna kill Donnie.” I came back, and he had a shit-eating grin, like: “That didn't go well, did it?”
- Madio: Matthew was not (*gesturing at him*) this way during shooting in boot camp. I don't know if you were method or what you were doing during bootcamp, but you were scary. You were a lunatic. You were unhinged. You were headbutting us, and you were Speirs. I stood far away from you
- Eion would carry around his rifle around his shoulders like it was the Vietnam War. When he did this, Rick and Richard liked to start singing 'White Rabbit' by Jefferson Airplane (clip of them doing this)
- Ross, telling a story of Shane helping him with an minor injury during bootcamp: Looking at him, I knew he’s an actor, but to me, I would've let him do heart surgery. I was in. I was in, one hundred percent
- (Richard tells a boot camp story of a memorable joke Scott Grimes had made at Dale Dye’s expense. Everyone’s laughing, and Frank hands the mic to Dale Dye:)
Dye: None of this happened. They were all angels 👼
The Legendary Post-Bootcamp March
- When the guys got off the bus in their uniforms post-bootcamp, Dale Dye immediately made them sing and march around the hangars of Hatfield airfield (which he knew would make the sound echo)
- Tony To: We were watching out the window, we saw you guys going by, and our jaws dropped. It was truly incredible
- Bruce McKenna: I had the great privilege of being at Hatfield when you cock-of-the-walks came in with your uniforms, singing in cadence around the thing, and it was like everyone said on the last panel- the hairs just stood up on all of our necks. It was unbelievable. And that's when I knew that the show was going to be good
Dye: And you talk about a panty-dropping unit, that was… they were somethin'.
Michael: I drop my panties often. I wanna balance it out. I’m wearing panties right now. No other panty wearers should be offended. Panties are worn.
Dye: Say you
- Dye: You could see it in the set of their jaws, and you could see it in their beady-ass eyeballs. These guys were gonna give it everything they could. And I said, if we can just hold onto this, (this show) is going to be a jewel … It’s going to be dynamite. And lo and behold, it was
On Stunts and Action Filming
- Remi Adefarasin: By the end, the camera team were wearing hockey gear, shoulder pads. I'm not kidding. Running through, slamming up against the foxholes and the trenches. We should've gone to bootcamp. And it was one of the wettest years in England for 75 years . . . (*smiles*) But it was fun
- On the day they shot the attack on Foy, their regular camera man wasn't available, so they brought out a guy from London who had never worked on the show at all. Everyone ran down the hill and everything was going smoothly, until the machine gun came out from behind the steeple, and the camera man jumped for cover. They had to say cut, stop, and explain to him: “Those are not real bullets.” And then do the whole take all over again
- Tim Matthews accidentally injured his head while filming the dike sequence in Episode 5. When Dale Dye saw him and his gushing head wound, he just said: “Penkala, blood on your rifle. I'm sexually stimulated.” 😳
- Dye trained a cadre of “about 50 hard-ass Germans who could do anything,” trained in artillery, infantry, etc., to be there always, in whatever German uniform you put them in
Dye: The idea was to be a legit challenge to our guys. These guys would go hard, so our guys would go harder. I wanted (the Germans) to fight back.
- Frank: We never talked to (the cadre of German stuntmen). Never saw them, didn't eat with them. The only time we encountered them was in the field. . . . It feels real, when they’re an enigma. The panic was so real with these guys advancing, and a tank firing, and the trees exploding over your head.
- Tony: Aside from the 50 German stunt guys, there were no stunt guys. The actors were the stunt guys. There was extensive training for them to be able to go through explosions and bullet hits, and be chased by tanks, etc.
- (On filming he scene in E4 of the tank chasing Bull)
Dye: He looked like he thought it was real and it was gonna run him down
Michael: It WAS real and it WAS gonna run me down.
Dye: The bastard could crawl quick
On Authenticity
- Tony: We set the environment so you never felt like you have to imagine you’re in places, or that you’re under a certain threat. That was part of the philosophy
- Richard: This was one of first jobs, maybe the only job, where I didn't know where cameras were most of the time. We didn't have conversations about where lights or cameras were. We were just trained to do the things, and to not to give a shit about the camera. Tom Hanks said, early on: “We’re not filming a war movie. We’re filming a war. You fight, we’ll film it.”
- Eion: All of the sets were staggering and made suspension of disbelief easy. You could look in every direction and see nothing that didn't look real. You could never see a side of a stage. It was like time travel
On the Bastogne/Bois Jacques set
- (One of the first audience questions was about Bastogne- the set and what it was like filming)
Frank, handing the mic to Eion: Wanna tell us what that was like?
Eion: Well, because I was wounded in Holland…
(Everyone laughing their asses off)
- Ironically, it had been terrible weather all year while filming, but the months filming Episodes 6 and 7 were during some of the best weather they were going to have all year
- The set of the woods that Anthony Pratt made was inside of a 50,000 sq ft hangar, and about 10 feet up in the air. The walls were painted, so it looked as though the set didn’t end
- Though they were very hot and sweaty, the actors had to constantly act as though they were cold, and their puffs of breath were added in special effects
- They brought in “a shit-ton of dirt” for the ground of the forest
- They brought in around 300 live trees, and the special effects team also put in numerous fake trees which they could rig to get blown up, etc. (and it was hard to tell which trees were real or fake)
- Ross claimed there were some squirrels, and even a badger 🦡 (Reactions from cast members around him suggested they thought he was full of shit)
On Episode 6
- Dye: Well, one of my favorite episodes is Bastogne, because it was another brilliant performance by Bob Sink, who showed up
- Bruce McKenna: This was the episode no one else wanted to write, and I was excited to write it... but then I had to figure out what to do, because nothing happens
- McKenna never looked at the book, never looked at the BoB Bible, but only went and interviewed men for information. Everyone said to him: “Doc was an angel,” “I loved him,” “He was an angel.” Ralph Spina said: “Doc trained me, saved my life more times than I could count.”
- Ross: Talking of Doc Roe being an angel- boy, did they cast well. My lord.
- Shane said that, while filming Episode 6, it became his thing to get pumped up and get going (for running around in his scenes), to do a few push ups
(Roenee shippers might want to skip this next part 🙈)
- McKenna: I was instructed when writing it that there should be no notion of romance between them. No horseshit, just pure spiritual stuff. And you guys pulled it off. It was just so beautiful
On Episode 7
- David Frankel: To help give a notion of how cold it was, we decided that there should be snow always coming down and blowing around in every shot, through the entire episode
- A company called “Snow Business” created the snow effects by spraying tiny bits of paper, soap bubbles, &/or burnt paper, which floats like snow. There were also fans everywhere, blowing the “snow” around
- None of the original sound is actually in the show! Every single line of dialogue was recorded after the fact and added over it
- One day while filming, a Spice Girl showed up to visit the Bois Jacques set (it was Baby Spice, according to Dexter)
- In Episode 7, Luz's run through the woods (towards Muck & Penkala's foxhole) was built on a soundstage, and it took 4 or 5 hours just to set up the shot and all of the (real) explosives. Rick was given a shit-ton of instructions on the choreography he had to navigate (and to avoid the dynamite), and then remember it all while they filmed the scene. Rick said that he was petrified out of his mind, and just trying to stay alive
- Tim and Richard were in the foxhole right up until the split second frame before the shell hit, and then they were replaced with model/effigies of Muck and Penkala, which were filled with watermelon, etc.
- Tim: When it happens, it’s incredibly moving and it drives home the sheer absurdity of what these men were faced with all the time in terms of the carnage, and the death, and the maiming that was going on all around them, while the world was burning, and nobody knew what the outcome of that was gonna be. And they’re expected to kinda hold themselves together and get on with it 🚬
On Episode 9
- Frankel decided to add the infamous sex scene to this episode after he interviewed his wife's uncle, who had been a medic in Patton's army. Frankel had asked him: "What was something people don't know about, that you experienced personally in April 1945?"
The uncle replied that what he remembered the most was the sex.
"All these German women who hadn't seen a man in five years. We were these strapping young men who hadn't seen a woman in a year. And it was like an orgy every day."
- The trees used for the woods near the concentration camp were the same trees used for the Bastogne set
- Madio was picked to be the one who runs back to tell Winters about the camp they found, because he was the fastest runner at bootcamp
On Filming the Concentration Camp:
- The set of the concentration camp was kept a surprise to the actors. When the patrol finds the camp, everyone was seeing the camp for the first time (except for Madio, who had seen it for the first time earlier that same day, while he was on the set to film the shots of him, Winters, Speirs, and Nixon cutting the bolts to the camp entrance.)
- Frankel: It felt almost like filming a documentary when the actors came up on set. There was almost no acting involved. It was just reacting, and capturing those moments.
- Frankel and Schwarz both discussed their family’s connections to the Holocaust, and their personal experiences on the set and while filming
- Schwarz: Walking onto that set, honestly, the only thing I can imagine missing was the smell. That's how real it was.
- Frankel: Before every take, we’d get everybody ready, and (the assistant director) would say: “Remember the stench and devastation! And… action!”
- Remi: We shot 27 frames per second at the camp scenes to slow everything down slightly to keep it in sync, so every performer looked slightly slowed down, and slightly numb w/ experience
- Frankel: We were there for the better part of a week, and for the first few days, it was like the Museum of the Holocaust. It was as if we really were inside a camp. Everyone whispered, no shouting, setting up everything delicately, almost no lights, etc. Then on the fourth day, the sun came out, and the guys playing prisoners put on their sunglasses. And l remember at lunch, they were singing '50s pop hits or something, sitting on top of the barracks. So there were moments where reality went out of the window.
On the Cast Taking their Job Seriously
- Frank: I was introducing Bill and Babe to Rich and Tim, and said: “This is Skip Muck and this is Penkala.” And Babe, who’d carried the war in eyes all those years, walked up to him and said: “Damn kid, I was there when you got it,” and shook his hand. And I realized we were ghosts. We were ghosts of these men brought back. We weren’t just names in a war movie. We were playing their best friends.
- Richard: It was not acting, it was retracing. It was a job of recreating what someone else did.
- Richard: There was not an ego involved from the acting standpoint. Never seen it before, never seen it since. . . It wasn't about screen-time. You're doing it to honor your guy.
On Continuing Connections to the Vet’s Families
- When the cast was asked who is still in touch with their vet's families:
- Rene Moreno was just finally able to meet Joe Ramirez's family (his granddaughter) a year and half ago. (She didn't know he was part of Easy, the book, or any of it.) She showed Rene her grandfather’s scrapbook and his writing, and it turned out that he was a poet, an artist, and a romantic
- Shifty’s daughter Margo taught Peter how to drive
- Robin’s oldest son is friends with Babe Heffron’s great-niece on “Snapchat, or TikTok, or whatever the hell it is those kids do.” 👴🏻
- Frank: I’m still open to meeting a few more Guarnere kids from when he was on leave in London 💀
More Babe and Bill Lore
- Frank told a story in which picked up Guarnere at the airport, and after he landed, he went outside the airport for a cigarette. He was leaning against the wall, with his hat all cocky, smoking a Pall Mall, and he was saying to the women passing by: "Hiya, sweetheart. I may be your father."
- Frank: Bill and Babe (coming to set), it was like Lennon and McCartney. As big as this production was, they shut it down. Everything stopped.
- McKenna, while researching and doing interviews with the vets, etc. early on, once spent 4 days in a drunken stupor with the guys from Easy
- McKenna: Bill and Babe's room was like Led Zeppelin had been in there
- Schwarz: I’d call Babe and, every time- Robin can attest to this, every time I was getting off the phone with Babe, he asked me if I needed any money, was I alright? (Robin grinned and made an expression like: “Yeah, that tracks.”)
Schwarz: And every time I would see him, he would try to slip me some money
Robin:
I’m guessing Babe wasn’t offering him money 😂
LAST BUT NOT LEAST... WEBGOTT
PANEL TWO
- Straight out of the gate, Eion gets this big goofy-ass grin when Ross McCall was introduced. After which, Eion leaned over to say something to Ross and they smiled together like doofuses (here's the clip)
- In the middle of a discussion on filming the camp scene in Episode 9, Ross begins to direct a question to Eion, and instead starts flirting with him, which begins a whole exchange (here's the full and UNBELIEVABLE clip)
- After answering aforementioned question, there's more flirting
Me, meanwhile: i think i ship Eion and Ross now? RPF of the guys who’re playing the guys I ship, who’re based on real guys? It’s RPF within the RPF… It’s like RPF-ception 💀
- and more flirting
also, whatever this is:
- Ross: There's joy in (Episode 9) too. There’s Webster and Lieb goofing around in the deuce and a half, getting into it (me: 😏)
PANEL THREE
- Ross and Eion went out to dinner the night before filming the hilltop scene
- There's various moments of them (especially Eion) smiling fondly at one another, getting looks from their co-stars, and laughing at things together
- Ross recounts the last scene he filmed for the show, which was when Liebgott extends a hand to Webster... (here's the full clip)
On that note...
I highly recommend watching these panels if you have the time!
Here is the link to the full thing on Vimeo (it is also available on Youtube)
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Highlights & Tidbits from Band of Brothers 25th Anniversary Symposium Cast & Crew Panels: DAY ONE
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF DAY ONE PANELS
The first panel was smaller, included Shane Taylor (Roe), Rene Moreno (Ramirez), and Peter Youngblood Hills (Shifty), Freddie Joe Farnsworth (who worked w/ Dale Dye as the military advisor at the actors' bootcamp and on the show, and also played the guy on white horse in Carentan.
They covered some general stuff, though good chunk of it focused on how the military advisors influenced the production, esp. the actors both in training and in set, and Band of Brothers' legacy among military community, etc.
The second panel focused on casting, writing and putting together research and scripts, experiences of the actors w/ their vets, and the actors' experiences overall/how it affected them, and a bonus Dale Dye moment at the end
It included the casting team (Meg Liberman, etc.), some of the producers and writers (Tony To, Erik Jendresen, Ivan Schwartz, etc.) actors James Madio (Perconte), Dexter Fletcher (Martin), Frank John Hughes (Guarnere), Ross McCall (Liebgott), Shane Taylor (Roe), and Rick Gomez (Luz). Also, two brief Tom Hanks Zoom cameos (no mention of deleted scenes 😔)
In the audience for this panel, I spotted Eion Bailey, Richard Speight Jr., Matthew Settle, Robin Laing, Dale Dye, and Tim Matthews. Several notable crew/creative team also were in audience, e.g. Anthony Pratt, Bruce McKenna.
Ready? Here we go!
GENERAL TIDBITS
- Playtone producer/chair of second panel Kirk Saduski implied that Tom Hanks might’ve known about 9/11 before it happened 💀
- Dexter Fletcher accent jumpscare
- Shane Tayor introducing himself saying he was “on home turf” (at the event in New Orleans) 🥰
- “it’s a love story” (- one of the writers about Band of Brothers/the bonds between the Easy Company guys) 👀
- I’m obsessed with Dexter’s hair and accessorizing. It’s giving pretentious theater critic
- Rene Moreno did a little bow down "we’re not worthy" gesture when Shane Taylor as Doc Roe got introduced in the first panel
- Shane has two daughters 🥹 ("I'm surrounded by females, all smarter and prettier than me")
- Frank John Hughes just became a grandfather! He said, if he could talk to Guarnere again, he would pick his brain about his experience as a grandfather and great-grandfather 🥺
- A guy on the first panel says they didn’t actually teach the assault at Brecourt when he went to West Point in 2003 or so... another episode postscript falsehood!
- To pass the time waiting for wardrobe, etc., the cast had ping-pong tables off-set, and would have competitions
- Freddie Joe Farnsworth: “Madio, all 4 foot 1 of him” 🍎🍎🍎🍎
- Rick Gomez: "It was an extraordinary show, made about extraordinary people, by extraordinary people, and when you get a chance to be exposed to extraordinary, that changes every cell in your body, because then you know what it is for the first time."
- Ross McCall: "We had the best of the best - our amazing (producers, directors, writers, cast, casting directors, costume, makeup, the list goes on and on and on)- we had the best of the best, except probably the English catering. That was the one thing that I think we probably could’ve done better. But apart from that, everything was top notch, so well done."
On the Vets Sharing their Stories
- In order for producer Ivan Schwarz to "prove himself" and earn Dick Winters’ trust, Dick made Ivan not only bring him a letter of recommendation from Tom Hanks but ALSO made him read and then the next day (!) give him a book report of Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose.
- The producers said that Saving Private Ryan was groundbreaking in the graphic depiction of combat, and seeing the audience’s openness to that and them gaining that frame of reference for what it was like, had an effect on the veterans' willingness to share.
- "A year before the 2000 Easy Co reunion it was: 'Grandpa wouldn’t talk about it.' At this reunion, there was a line around the room for them to talk and share."
- Someone’s favorite story about the whole experience of crew of writers & camera crew etc meeting & interviewing one of the vets was that there was a crowd of people around the house. The guy asked, "Was it bc they thought Tom Hanks was going to show up w/ them? No, it was because it was the first time grandpa was telling his stories." 😭
On Writing
- The original outline for the show was 13 episodes 🥲
- They received EIGHT (8) boxes worth of material that Easy vets had sent to Dick Winters for the show &/or that the publication of the Band of Brothers book inspired them to share, and that material was then compiled by writer Erik Jendresen and Tom Hanks into the Band of Brothers "Bible"
- Producer Kirk Saduski (the panel chair) asked Erik what he remembers from how they chose to divide up the episodes: “Well, it was 26 years ago, Kirk” (Ross behind him, laughing)
- (On how they solved the problem to frame the events of EP 6, when everyone was paired off in their individual foxholes): "Well, there was one guy who was going around, looking for some scissors…”
- Writer discussing focusing on characters or pairs they thought it was most fitting to spotlight in each episode: "Well, Episode 6 was Roe and Babe, Episode 7 was Lipton and Speirs..." (me: 👀)
On Casting
- Madio, being asked about his casting experience: “Well, I was first offered the role of Richard Winters...”
- Madio did his audition w/ Frank and Kirk Acevedo ("3 Bronx guys”)
- During one of his first calls with Bill Guarnere, Frank asked if had any advice for his final audition, and Bill said: "Just remember, I was a 19-year old paid killer. Anything else?” (“And I said, 'No, that’s good, sir'”)
- The story of casting Damian Lewis, told by @lupoteodoro in this post
- Ross, quoting Frank: “Meg didn’t just cast the show, she cast our best friends” 😭
- Tony To: "...and had privilege to meet Frank, Ross, Shane... all of these guys."
Rick:
On Ross McCall Kissing the Casting Director
Tony To revealed that when Ross McCall came into his audition, he kissed Meg Liberman on the mouth 😳
Ross: Meg had a sign that said: 'Please Don’t Shake Hands.' So me being me at 24 years old: "I see we’re not shaking hands, how about a kiss on the mouth." End of story.
Meg: And that’s all it took.
(cue jokes that was ALL that happened, and the rest of the audition was all professional)
Later, Rick Gomez: “First, I’d like to say I have the utmost respect for Meg Liberman and would never try to kiss her on the mouth. I would never say anything like that. I would never insinuate anything like that. And Meg knows that. Meg knows that, deeply. And I want this audience to know that as well.” (Tony, visible within frame, was laughing his ass off)
On Learning about their Vets
- Ross: "All the other guys who were casted got all this material on the vets they were portraying, or got to meet them. All I got was a manilla envelope w/ ONE picture, a picture from the book." (He later explained that he got most of his info from the book and from the Easy Co vets, who he said were happy to talk about their buddy)
- Ross, on Liebgott : “He had a little bit of spice to him, which I liked."
(Sidenote: Someone needs to tell Ross that Liebgott wasn’t actually Jewish! Also, Ross said (in the interview snippets in between panels) that he spoke German due to his grandmother being German, which is also not true.)
- Frank said that Bill Guarnere always answered the phone by saying “Yowza” 😭
- Frank, on talking w/ the real Bill: "As fearless as he was in combat, as fearless as he was in the next hardest thing, which was sharing.”/"We talked 3 or 4 hours every day. I knew how he felt about everything, there was nothing unsaid between us."
- Guarnere wouldn’t talk about Bastogne, so Frank got that info from Carwood Lipton (whom he described as "a classy, elegant, wonderful guy.") @lupoteodoro tells the whole story in this post
- Ross: "When Bill and Babe came down on set, it was like The Beatles had arrived."
- The vets were not really into talking about themselves/things that they did, but would love to talk about their buddies/things their buddies did
- Peter Youngblood Hills went to visit the real Shifty (who coincidentally lived an hour away from his mother's house), and spent a few days with him, learning to imitate Shifty's shooting style, etc. One time, Peter slept in, and Shifty was like: “We’re not gonna win the war if you’re sleepin’ in bed!” and another time, joking that: “I was gonna adopt you, but you eat too much."
- Shifty's line in Ep 7 about his dad being an excellent shot was entirely verbatim from his own conversations with Shifty
Pics I found online from that visit
On Bootcamp
- Shane said it was 12 days, Tom Hanks said 3 weeks, Ross said 10 days, Freddie Joe said 14 days, Dale Dye said 13 days… 🤷
- Freddie Joe expanded on the psychological techniques they used building up the actors' resentment towards Sobel- e.g. they'd give (David Schwimmer) the wrong answers/instructions, and then give (Damian Lewis) the correct ones. He also secretly gave Compton, Guarnere, and the other sergeants some commissary boot polish, carton of smokes, etc., but then they turned around and were giving it out to the rest of the guys in their squads.
- Freddie Joe, when asked about any injuries at bootcamp: ”We found out Doc Roe can't do stitches yet.” (Shane: “I thought I could.”)
- Peter said that they picked a specific thing for each of (the actors) to become really, really good at
- Frank: "During actors bootcamp, Shane, being trained as a medic, would come and wrap feet, etc. At one point I said: 'Doc what the hell are you doing? You were in West End two weeks ago, now you’re my primary care physician!' And no one doubted him! If you got hurt, you yelled for him, and he fixed you."
- Shane: "Firstly, let me say that Freddie Joe petrified me"
- At the end of each day, Shane would have to make rounds to check on everybody, to patch them up, or also just listen to them vent about how they were doing. He said he loved that additional responsibility, and he found that he really loved talking care of people.
On Production Design
- They shot almost everything just outside of London in Hartfordshire and Hatfield
- Pretty much everything besides the concentration camp, Hatfield House, and Zell am Se, was filmed either in a disused airfield in Hatfield, or in the two huge warehouses they rented.
- Warehouse-filmed scenes included everything from Bastogne, Eagles Nest, Paris, and even the river from episode 8
On the Strict Expectations for Actors On Set
- It was finally about 6 months down the line that the actors started to know each others (real) names!
- Freddie Joe gave an example in which went looking for Donnie Wahlberg, expecting to find him in his trailer (which he was not allowed to do) and bust him, only to find that all the background performers and his (Donnie's) team were inside his trailer, and Donnie was sitting outside on the ground.
- Rene: "It was mandatory to carry your weapons from moment you got to set to moment you leave, you couldn’t set them down."
"Oh you could! but we didn’t."
"I forgot once… Just once."
Peter and Matthew Leitch
Poster and still from the movie AKA (2002)
Peter brought this up, when answering a question about staying in role while on set.
Just prior to Band of Brothers, he and Matthew Leitch had been in a movie together playing gay lovers, and, being in this experience as actors on Band of Brothers/on set, Peter said, they had to be "brought back to their senses to some degree." 👀
Peter ALSO mentioned how the previous role he had just come off filming had been as a male prostitute. (At this, Rene, grinning, pointed in acknowledgment to someone in the audience? no idea who or why)
Afterwards, Freddie Joe (who I think may have been learning all this information for the first time) stated that he and Dale Dye did NOT know that Peter & Matthew had done that (movie) together beforehand, and that he wished he had known that information. He joked that he definitely would've put them in different barracks.
The Clubbing in London Story
Peter brought up a memorable moment of Jim Madio from a night out (Shane: “There’s always a Madio Moment”) and Shane told the full story:
The cast was out in London at a club in Soho one night. They were up on the second floor, in front of some large windows. Outside below were half a dozen huge, rowdy, drunk guys, who started shouting up at a woman in the cast's group (the girlfriend of Bart Ruspoli, who played Tipper.)
He (Madio) heard them, and took off his shirt (“like a muscular Mighty Mouse”) and took off down the stairs and out to the street. The rest of the group ran down to follow him, and saw Madio running after them down the street, chasing these big guys off down the block and around the corner.
Last but not least... Ross McCall’s Dale Dye Tribute
At the end of the second panel, Ross McCall went up the podium, looking like he was going to announce he was running for elected office, and gave a wonderful speech about bootcamp and Dale Dye
- The freshly-cast actors each got sent a letter, hand typed like 1942 being invited to bootcamp. Their instructions were they could only bring: reading materials of a religious nature, a piece of paper and pencil, towel (army green), and their gym attire.
- “We were yelled at more than any human beings have ever been yelled at, and we sorta lapped it up and loved it."
- "He (Dale Dye) knew what made each one of us tick. He knew what would break us down. And he knew how to pull us back up again"
- "I was a little cheeky back then, go figure. I used to get away with murder with this man. When he was yelling out orders, or chewing someone to pieces, I would make some stupid dry comment. And, kinda like my dad, he had a smile, 'cause he knew there was no malice. He knew I was there to do a job and he knew I took it really, really seriously, as did all the men."
(Meanwhile I’m wondering: "Okay, but where he’s going with this? Did Dale Dye die just recently and I didn't hear about it? Is this speech a promotional announcement for a new "actors' bootcamp" for tourists?")
Surprise! They are giving him a paver stone tribute at the museum
Dale Dye: “For once in my miserable, misbegotten life, I'm speechless."
To end his brief remarks, he offered his principle of leadership: "You have to love 'em to lead 'em, and I love 'em.” 😭
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