sideblog for my heated rivalry & RWRB obsession, and my recent fall into the Malec rabbit hole, a_stray_thief on ao3 (queer, she/her), follows from ashtraythief
AU where Shane and Ilya don't hook up or have a decades-long secret. They don't really know each other at all, except to play each other.
Shane comes out of the closet sometime after Scott does, and in some random, lighthearted interview, they ask him what he's looking for in a man. And Shane's just, off-hand like, "Well, he'd have to have at least one Stanley Cup. Obviously." And when he gets a good reaction from that, he keeps going, like "Needs to be amazing at hockey. Definitely needs to be at least an All-Star, if not a captain. Hot too. If he can't bench-press me, I'm not interested."
And it's all in fun, except two days after the interview prints, Ilya Rozanov shows up at his door like "knock, knock. I am here to apply for boyfriend position. Do you need resume? I brought my Stanley Cup ring, just in case."
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People posting about the skip divorce makes me think that Scott would absolutely refuse to make it official before he retires. He cannot be the first out gay player who gets married and divorced a year later. He has to be a Role Model TM. And Kip agrees, so they pretend they're still together, and Kip has to go to the occasional game and team outing because there's only so many times he can use the grad school excuse and he begs Scott to retire, so they can stop the charade, but Scott is being stubborn and Kip is like you have enough money, your knee is fucked, coach has been scaling back your minutes, but the thing is, Scott still does love Kip and he only gets to have him, even in this weird pretend state, as long as he's still playing, and so he pushes himself for another season if even he'll definitely need a new knee once he's done playing and the Admirals are only giving him an extension because he's been the face of the franchise for fifteen years. And Kip isn't stupid, and neither is Ilya, who's haunting the Kingfisher with cryptic comments because he absolutely knows that Scott and Kip's relationship is fucked because they rushed into it and went from secret whirlwind let's move in together after a few months to the out and proud two man rainbow parade husbands way too quickly. And now Kip's in grad school, his life is entirely different, they need to recalibrate and Ilya knows what's actually going to save their relationship is Scott retiring. So ilya's got his work cut out for him but the don't call him the bisexual dairy fairy godmother of the NHL for nothing.
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Post outing, during Shaneβs first season with Ottawa, he meets up with Rose. The Centaurs have a game in New York and Rose has a Colbert appearance. The press immediately speculates why Ilya didnβt come with them. After all, he and Shane are married now. The more trashy outlets speculate about Shane and Rose rekindling their romance while the more serious ones (lol) write about tension between Rose and Ilya and Ilya being jealous and A Close Friend bemoans how poor Shane is in the middle of his husband and his best friend not getting along.Β
Fast forward a couple of months, the Centaurs are playing LA. Shane is sitting out the road trip due to a minor injury. Ilya meets up with Rose at a small restaurant to avoid the press, but they get caught by paparazzi. And they get absolutely swarmed. Usually, Rose can handle a few paps going after her, but this time there are so many, they block the way from the restaurantβs door to where her car is parked. Rose was just caught leaving a party hand in hand with another actor a week ago and the paps are after her like crazy and because she and Ilya were meeting on the dl she didnβt bring security. Turns out, she didnβt need to.Β The paparazzi are in their faces, yelling at Rose about her possible relationship with her actor or whether sheβs hooking up with her ex-boyfriendβs husband now, shoving them around and flashing their cameras. Unfortunately for the paparazzi, none of them have a lot of experience with professional hockey players. Hockey players who can fight and are good in a scrum. So Ilya drags up his Iβm gonna drop my gloves and punch out your teeth persona and yells at them loud enough that at least two of the paps drop their cameras. Even these hardened vultures donβt know what to do in the face of Russian hockey player fury. Ilya doesnβt punch any of them, but he doesnβt have to. Just wraps an arm around Rose and clears a path for her with the other, his broad shoulders and the murderous expression on his face equally well suited to get them back to Roseβs car. The clip goes viral, especially because it catches Roseβs absolutely vindicated expression when Ilya basically glares the last photographer out of his way, and says, just audible for the camera, βnext time we go out, we bring hockey sticks and just sweep them out of the way like ugly overgrown pucks.β
Later that night, Rose posts a clip of her and Ilya on the ice, shooting pucks with the caption πͺ practice.
Full disclosure, Iβve been anti generative ai in fandom and all other spaces for a while now. I knew people were using it, but Iβm kind of appalled how widespread it is and how βgoodβ AI has become between the last time I looked and now. (Good meaning that sometimes it takes me a while to catch on, sometimes I never catch on, but the fic itself is still not what I would consider good if itβs entirely written by ai.) I usually stay out of fandom discourse that makes me unhappy because fandom is my strict happy place, but AI just makes me really mad, and since the JohnDoe AI report dropped last night, I had to try to sort my feelings and get it out of my system. Something that letting AI write for you can never do for you btw. (All of this applies to AI generated art as well, but since I am a writer and not an artist, Iβm writing from a writerβs pov, but I think the same applies to AI generated art as well.)
I think for me, both as a writer and a reader, the question of ai use for fanfic comes down to three different questions: environmental, philosophical, and ethical. (I donβt know if those are great terms for it, but itβs what came to mind and Iβm not going to brainstorm with fucking Claude or chatgpt about it. If someone has ideas for better categories, lemme know!)
Environmental is the question if using ai is worth it, considering its incredibly harmful impact on our environment like the energy consumption of it, the water waste and the pollution of data centers, the enrichment of soulless tech bros who are building up the ai bubble without any kind of sustainability or accountability and just want to make money before the bubble bursts by farming any and all of our output to collect our data. Like AI in itself can be incredibly helpful, i.e. in medicine, but generative AI is not created to benefit humans. They might claim theyβre creating chatbots as research helpers and co-editors and friends (how can something that neither thinks nor feels be a friend???), but there doesnβt seem to be a single benign thought behind creating generative ai. Itβs collecting data and the sycophantic nature is actively harming peopleβs ability to navigate rl interactions and especially conflicts, never mind the horrific and extreme examples of encouraging suicide. Theyβve also repeatedly said thereβs not enough money being made with generative AI, so theyβre pushing it harder for people and companies everywhere to use even if the benefits are limited. So no, I donβt think whatever story or picture or essay you could get out of AI is worth it for fucking our planet or our society.
All of these issues obviously pertain to all generative ai use, whereas the philosophical question for me is fandom specific. What does it mean to create fanfiction?
By definition, fanfiction (or fanart) is created by someone who is a fan, or someone who has strong emotions about a piece of media, to engage with that piece of media. It can be done out of love, to stay and play with favorite characters, to continue the story, to expand the universe, to bring different beloved characters and worlds together. It can also be fix-it to overcome what someone thinks are shortcomings and missing bits from canon and it can be spite fic to deal with something you really, really dislike. Either way, it comes from a place of feelings, and itβs written for people who might have similar feelings about it. AI does not feel. So how can it engage with the source material in the same way we do? How can AI hope to create something that is so fundamentally rooted in feelings when itβs the one thing it doesnβt have? Itβs no surprise, I think, that many people describe AI writing as soulless or cold. Itβs also the question of the process. Writing is often called a labor of love. We love to write, and sometimes itβs easy, but itβs also always work. Work we love, work we hate, work that makes us despair and pull our hair out or makes us do little happy dances in our desk chairs. We take all our feelings for our little blorbos and we put them in words. Itβs a struggle, but itβs worth it. Itβs catharsis. Itβs dealing with whatβs going on inside of us and sharing that with the people who also love our little blorbos. Writing fanfic is only part of it, sharing it is the other part. Itβs a communal thing. For many people, writing itself is also communal. Some people approach writing as a solitary task, which is absolutely valid, but many others have beta readers and plot brainstormers and prompt writers. Using AI for your fic is not communal. Itβs not a person reading your writing for love of the game and thinking with you about your writing because of a shared passion. Using AI is having a machine string the most common words together dictated by an algorithm that was trained by absorbing millions of words on the internet. Sure, you can do that, but itβs not really what fandom is about. Fandoms grow and live and thrive because we love the same thing. AI has nothing of value to add to that. Sure, thereβs more content. But content is not what fandom makes. A community of people is what makes a fandom.
Of course, some people use AI tools only to edit their fics, to spellcheck or to correct grammar. I think that thatβs sort of fine, but your mileage may vary on that. Iβm personally not a huge fan of it, because of the aforementioned environmental issues, but there are different tools for this, i.e. I think specific writing tools like grammarly are better than just putting everything into chatgpt, and I understand that people who struggle with spelling and grammar or who are not native English speakers appreciate the help. Iβd always recommend getting a human beta reader instead, but I also understand that finding betas you jive with and making yourself vulnerable like that with other people can be a challenge. However, Iβd also argue, if you want to improve as a writer, itβll go much better with a person looking over your writing and not feeding it into an AI generator. (Disclaimer that fanfic is a hobby, no one has to improve or use a beta if they donβt want to, this is very much a matter of preference, but if you do want someone to look over your writing, please get an actual human being for that.)
All this does not even touch on the copyright issues and the inherent plagiarism of AI which was trained on everything on the internet without anyoneβs consent. It also doesnβt consider all the biases rampant on the internet that AI picked up on, i.e. racism, sexism, homophobia etc. Which means by letting AI write fanfic, potentially itβs letting AI bring all of that shit in too. So itβs an issue of morality too.
The last, and ethical part, is directly in response to the AI accusations and peopleβs reactions to it in the HR fandom. Many people clearly do not want to see AI in fandom spaces, but some people also donβt care. In response to this, it seems, many authors are just lying about using AI. And thatβs just fucked. If you use AI, just cop to it. Especially if you just use it for editing or research. But be fucking transparent. Iβve seen many people say, just tag your work so we can avoid it, and itβs fine, but apparently to these authors hits and kudos and comments are more important than honesty. And the hits and the kudos and the comments are more important than the true experience and community of fandom of caring about something together. Clout chasers in fandom arenβt new. People have always plagiarized works, have always lied for attention (and sometimes even money), but AI gives people a whole new tool to grab attention, to do it quickly and to do it often. And then to fucking lie about it. So the question is, how do we want to engage with people who create fanfic or fanart with AI? And thatβs something that everybody needs to and should answer for themselves. Transparency is a good first step, but the thing about people is, they lie. We can call for transparency, but it might not make people be more honest and then in a quest to discover more AI in fanfic, we will remain in murky waters because not everyone leaves visible prompts or coding in their works. Iβd argue that most people probably donβt. Especially now that itβs been revealed people will be more careful. People who only have very few instances of code left in their fics have probably already been careful. And recognizing AI by style alone is possible but not definitive. AI was trained on a lot of fanfic so the stylistic similarities are there. So thereβs the danger of accusations without proof and an incredibly toxic climate in fandom that might discourage fic writers who donβt use AI from posting for fear of being accused. But we also need accountability. And honestly, when it comes to letting AI write your fics, shame. Insert the GoT shame gif here.
I donβt know if thereβs a feasible solution for this. This might just be one of the pitfalls of fandom, one of the dark sides we have to deal with to enjoy the good stuff. Personally, I think using AI to write fanfic of all things, is fucking shitty, both for environmental and moral reasons and for it being the fucking antithesis to everything good that fandom stands for. I have no interest in reading what an AI generated about my favorite blorbos, I want to read what other people who love my blorbos have to say about them. I understand the rush of posting a fic and getting kudos and comments and positive feedback. I understand the pressure of finishing a WIP or the desire to post a new fic as quickly as possible. But at what price? It not being your own? Posting a soulless creation strung together by a machine that scavenged the internet for words that go together and drained a lake and destroyed a chunk of forest in the process? No thanks. Iβll take your slightly wonky, spelling and punctuation sporting fic with a weird premise and a charming execution over that any day.
So to everyone not using ai: keep writing. Keep loving your blorbos and keep putting them in situations because it brings you joy and catharsis and keep sharing it with other people to bring them joy and catharsis. Fandom is a living breathing community that we create by being in it. Thereβs always going to be shitty people and shitty things, but fandom has been prevailing through decades of dealing with shitty people and shitty things and weβre still here. We still love. And while everything is bigger now, and more public and more exposed, bringing more and new issues with it, including attention and notoriety (which are probably a huge part of the allure using ai), we can still make fandom a community we love. We might have to shame a few people into fucking stopping using ai, but it doesnβt have to ruin the whole community for us. Fandom is ours and I refuse to let shitty ai take that way from us.
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Ilya holding him still in this position and relentlessly pounding into him while shane just moans and trembles and takes it because he canβt do anything else
I don't know if this is something but I'm having a thought about The Suit TM Shane puts on while he's waiting for Ilya after the CCM shoot. Obviously it shows how nervous Shane is and how inexperienced at this hookup thing, but it shows what he has experience with: being a nice boy who goes on nice dates with nice girls. The show doesn't really have a lot of time for Shane's attempts to date women except for Rose and a mention of ex-girlfriend Jessica (who was his girlfriend before the draft in the book but might have been later in show canon if Hayden knows about her unless Shane told him he last dated pre-MLH), so this is kind of a subtle hint at the whole Shane does proper relationships with girls because it's expected, because he thinks it's what he should want, because it's what he wants to want. Obviously putting on a suit for hooking up with a girl in a hotel room is also weird, but it just shows that Shane doesn't hook up, Shane does dates. At least he has until this point.
(I think the show tries to hint at him hooking up with other people at least occasionally when he tells Ilya at the cottage that he also hasn't slept with anyone else recently implying there's a chance he had before All-Stars 2017, but it's really just the smallest of crumbs, so we need to fill the gaps of shane's sexlife somehow...)
that little forehead smooch in episode 2 kills me. it kills me straight up dead. like. what was going on in shaneβs head when he decided to do it? did he even consciously do it? because it's so achingly tender and affectionate, tooth-rottingly sweet. was he trying to express his gratitude for how ilya took care of him? was he trying to reciprocate the same tenderness that ilya showed him in taking his (gay) virginity? obviously it is a thank you. and the thing is, it is so fucking kind and intimate that ilya sees his life flash before his eyes with a husband a house and a dog and scares himself right out of his bed.
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the thing about the mummy movies is that you really spend most of the time thinking "wow brendan fraser's character is so cool" or "man oded fehr is so mysterious and heroic" when the fact of the matter is that these two
are the absolute most batshit insane heroes in the entire franchise
these two are intellectual loner siblings with archeology backgrounds who read and speak ancient egyptian, hire a dude directly out of prison to take them to a lost city of gold, and fight mummies literally with their bare hands. twice.
no one in these movies stands a chance against the carnahans. frankly they're lethal in how willing they are to make the absolute and most undeniably deranged decisions. jonathan pickpockets a dude on fire. evy's resurrected from the dead and immediately remembers how to use sai. they're racking shotguns from a cliff in this scene and then proceed to blow away half the antagonists.