Kpop thoughts and rants for the day. Today we're going to talk about the now infamous live stream and the Samir campaign that is happening once again for Danielle.
This fandom still confuses me. Because why are y'all not all but some of y'all still in denial that these guys who are contract workers are not going to say whatever the hell the company is telling them to say or talk about.
It has been several months instead of the company being the one to come out you know their actual CEO who mind you had no problem doing an entire hour-long video claiming that they weren't copying another girl group while giving indisputable evidence that they were indeed absolutely copying the other girl group how come he couldn't come out and make a video or post talking about how they came to conclusion of breaking up this group within their last year of their contract.
How come the members can't say his name mind you they're still label meats Heesung still works in the same building as Enhypen he has literally done dance challenges with other HYBE artist including illit so you can't even say it's oh they don't want him to interact with his label mates. If they really wanted to sell this and make people believe that this was perfectly fine and that they had been planning this for apparently allegedly two to three years and the members are okay with it and he's okay with it why the fuck aren't they interacting with each other?
Why go through all of this BS for almost half a year now it feels like of having him be a part of some advertisements and things having him not be a part of others talking about how this was planned out and then having the advertisement people say that they had no fucking clue he was leaving the group. Why is it there and have him be actively a part of the group for a comeback you knew he was leaving halfway through and having him be the one to drop hint at them performing in Australia and him be the one to talk about wanting to work with the group for many years to come knowing he was leaving in a few months knowing he was going to be gone in a week or two it makes no sense.
Heesung was an example. I have come to the conclusion that this company does not run like a company I've said it before it runs like a high school where evil piggy bank is the head jock and mean kid and I feel like this along with the Danielle and Manon thing kind of proves it for me.
Okay let me sit here and give you a hypothetical but also this is what I've seen from other x K-pop idols talking about this and also this is things that I've seen people do in the fashion industry if you're like a model and you become more famous Etc right so I would imagine it's the same in the music industry.
Heesung has gone viral multiple times specifically with non Kpop fans over the past 2 years. This kind of global popularization and the fact that he is the oldest member means that he might have decided to try to use that as leverage. The thing is K-pop idols when they become bigger more popular and they have more eyes on them they can use that as leverage during contract negotiations.
They can be like hey see I have all these people who don't even listen to this genre of music and they're very interested in me and they're becoming very interested in the group. So how about you allow us to do some solo things to have a proper break to not go on tour for 2 years straight right you trying to negotiate shit like that you try to negotiate getting paid if you're not being paid or having a better split with the payment and it not being like 30/70 you try to negotiate better terms and deals for yourself and your group. This is like their last year in the company so they're already talking contract renewals that conversation starts happening a year and a half before the contracts up most of the time sometimes even 2 years before the contracts up.
There's only two members that have consistently gone viral the oldest member and one of the three youngest members Sunoo that Heesung always takes care of the members even if he's not the leader so why would he sit there and put that pressure on one of the younger members when he could leverage his own popularity that he's gaining and that's exactly what I think happened and I think what went down basically was a oh so this is how you feel well let me show you why that's not going to work.
So they separate him from the rest of the group decide he's now going to be a solo artist and then allow for him to experience the one of the worst absolute fucking hate trains you can imagine. Allow for him in the members to see how deeply rooted the company is within the fandom that the fandom is not only fighting each other but some of them are actually turning on the group and turning on him. I've said this before this company has purposely created fandoms that they can control.
HYBE from what I have observed has created a fandoms that I don't even think they realize this but they trust and Believe in the company first and the artist second. Right they have managed to warp the perception of their fandoms so that the fandoms don't even realize because I've had a conversation or two with some of the fans that do defend this shit or are completely oblivious to the fact that they're being played and when you talk to them it is so obvious.
Like very obvious that they're unaware of the fact that they actually trust and like the company before they actually trust or like their artists. And the company did this on purpose so that they can use that as leverage because I definitely believe that there is a 99% possibility that that's what they used as they're scare tactic. That's what they were doing here and now with this group. They basically told them you would be nothing without the company because your fans trust us before they trust you and they've been proven right.
The thing is all of a sudden the fans weren't acting the way they wanted them to right you have to understand the Korean fans have basically not all but a lot of them turn their backs on Heesung to some degree and have been blaming him for everything same with a couple of the other Asian fandoms. Because of this they genuinely believe that that's how all the fans were viewing this but then for the boys to go on tour and to have concerts overseas where people were still saying the ot7 fan Chants it kind of shook them because they were like oh hell no we can't still have y'all not falling in line so instead they decided to have the leader sit there and have this conversation on a live stream out of nowhere at random.
My thing is this I genuinely believe that the members do not want the fandom to fight that's the last thing they want but I also think the reason why they don't want the fandoms to fight is for two reasons. Reason one it would prove to them that the company was correct that their fans care about the company that they're in rather than the group themselves and nobody wants to believe that all of their hard work and sacrifice is basically useless if they leave an abusive company. And the second one is I again still believe that the company is probably putting pressure on them. You have to understand that everything that we've seen about this company has shown us that. They are more willing to put blame on their artists and to throw them under the bus than to actually take accountability for Jack shit. I wouldn't be surprised if they put a lot of the pressure.
In terms of the finances that they have to make to pay back and the records and shit that they probably stupidly projected to their shareholders we're going to happen so they can receive more money onto their artist. They are the only group currently making money for be shit. They have a girl group that they have basically self-sabotage and thrown into the fiery pits of hell for a God who is basically just an overgrown evil pig and The wizard of Oz rolled into one he has no power but he is a consistently on a power trip.
And we are also aware that they are in debt to HYBE and that's something I think people don't talk enough about. K-pop idols have already talked about how bad it is to already be in debt regardless of how big your company is when you debut and then you know you're basically paying half for everything but this company is a whole another level of oh they're really trying to trap all of these artists and companies because they have to pay again a monthly fee. And from what we've seen about the monthly fee it depends on two things one that there is a flat rate fee and two apparently the fee can go up depending on how many artists you have in your company which is why they have so many smaller companies that only have one or two artists because they probably couldn't afford to pay a higher fee it's basically like paying for guests at a wedding it feels like.
BeLift now has two groups meaning that their fee went from whatever the fuck it was for having one group to now however much money they have to pay back for having two groups and for allowing HYBE to be there distributor which is insane because I don't think there are any other distributors that make you pay the monthly so even if they're artists aren't actively working or coming out with an album they have to pay them every month. And I've said it before that's like thinking about having a fucking apartment in New York right one of the fancy apartments that are stupidly amount of money even though it's not like the most spacious sometimes. If they're out here having to pay like a $2500 fee every month and let's say every comeback if they don't do touring because that's where most of the money comes from they only bring in on average about like maybe $3,000 right because they normally lose money going on to the K-pop performance shows I always want to call them like the freaking MTV shows because that's what MTV used to be. So they lose money every time they send them on one of the MTV shows right they lose money technically speaking when they do the fan meets and the fan sites that's more so just so they can keep the fans involved but they're not really making a shit ton of money off of the tickets that they sell there and they have to pay for the venue the staff they have to pay for the makeup and hair the outfit everything right unless they are doing an ambassadorship and using clothing sent to them by a brand.
So they're not making a lot of money and then they decide okay touring we make a shit ton of money off of this every time you send them on tour we are able to make a profit like as soon as the tour is announced we're basically breaking even just with the selling of the tickets. More than enough money to pay the rest of the rent for you know renting out the venues, then the MD that we sell at the concerts on average we sell enough to make a profit after breaking even for how much money we have to pay for the staff members that we have there security guards the whole nine yards. So we do this on a world tour scale we could make about will sit there and say something like they're stopping on almost all the continents and like several cities on each one so let's say like 50 mil right.
Out of that 50 mil they now have to deduct everything so even though they're on tour they still have to pay that monthly fee so that monthly fee has to get paid every month even if they're on tour for basically all 12 months, then they also have to pay for bored and food and that price has gone up because they're on tour so not only are they paying for the dormitory even if they're not using it they also have to pay for all of the hotel rooms food is covered so any food that the company is buying for staff and the idols of room service at the hotel all that. If they go out to eat that's their own money. They also have to now pay for all of the extra backup dancers cuz these are more people than they normally would have because sometimes they actually fly out their backup dancers that's still expensive cuz now you're also paying for all of their tickets and their food and all of that that's covered for by the group and the company. Or they have to pay different fees to have a bunch of different backup dancers for whatever continent they're on and again still paying for transportation still paying for hotels still paying for their food it's a lot of fucking money. It's expensive to go on vacation solo and stay at nice places let alone with so many people like for example say you decide to go to New York and your one is stay at a nice hotel right K-pop idols and their staff are not staying at a cheap motel they're staying at one of the fancier ones.
Whether you're talking the hilton, the Ritz any of those hotels on average a cheap the cheapest room you can get there for one person is like $880 something dollars. The average like nice room that can suit like two people you're looking at around $3,000 and this is per night if you're staying at like the penthouse suite or one of the really nice ones it's somewhere between $5,000 or more per night. Now imagine spending somewhere between like $12,000 per night for like a the small Idol group of like I don't know freaking four or five people. And you also have to pay about that much maybe a little less depending on how cheap you're going for the staff members for all of their rooms too and again it's more money when you're getting a double room like a double bedded room then a single room I just gave you the prices that you can literally find online for a single room like one bed at these fairly nice hotels and mind you a lot of these K-pop idols they're doing these tours in these big cities where yeah it's more expensive.
So you take all that into consideration and 90% of these companies under the yellow corporation are probably barely making any form of a profit. The last thing they need is for the fandom to be pissed off enough that they actually start boycotting them that they actually stop giving them money they cannot afford that.
They're in more debt most likely than the average college student in America and that's saying a lot. So of course they're going to need to do damage control and the easiest way for them to do damage control that makes the most sense because who are the fans going to believe the company or the idols.
So then they have a conversation with the leader or with the whole group and they're like y'all need to convince your fans that this is what y'all wanted that this is perfectly fine. You have to understand we are still in charge of y'all y'all still owe us money. Like Korean entertainment companies are no different than those like really shitty ass debt collectors you see in the k-dramas that is what they are. K-pop idols even when they leave their company unless the company is nice enough to dissolve their debt which most companies aren't even if they leave they still have to pay them back. That's why some idols find it hard to find a new company and they end up just starting their own or they start working other jobs while trying to figure out how to come out with music because they still have to pay back those corporations. Depending on how much money and again they could tack on random ass fees like you have to pay us a $50 fee every time one of y'all flushes the damn toilet.
Because that's not illegal who knows how much debt Enhypen might technically be in with their company. It also one of the reasons why I say yeah I might decide Illit a little bit but I also know that there's no way in hell that those girls aren't in immense debt to that company so like yeah they probably going to do whatever the fuck the company says so the company says you're going to sit here and you're going to personally be a part of this lawsuit then they're going to fucking do it because they already owe the company money that they can't pay back and isn't even their fault because the company again set them the fuck up. But companies also do this on purpose as much as people would like to think oh they would never do that cuz they want profit the thing is they can still make a profit off of a group while keeping them in debt.
They could still technically be making money while still having their sub dairy groups all the money. There's a reason why evil piggy bank is as rich as he is outside of the fraud. If he's sitting there making all this money from all these other smaller companies that are under his bigger distribution company and he's tacking on these fees or he's having the smaller companies put all these fees on to the idols to keep them in the company cuz like where the fuck are you going to go if you owe a company like $100,000 in that that's going to be really hard for you to make back when the only thing you have on your resume is being a fucking K-pop Idol for the past like 7 years and before then again a lot of these not all but a lot of these idols weren't working before because so many of them get scouted when they're like fucking elementary Middle schools kids.
That's going to be really hard to do so instead you can't end up stuck at this company you don't want to be at until you can pay them back if you can ever pay them back. Sometimes your group just stops being popular and then all of a sudden they're like well does off your debt and you can leave because now you won't be competition if you left. Or in some cases which I don't think is ever going to happen again this stopped happening in like 3rd gen it feels like the group gets so big that they're bigger than the company. The company can no longer hold certain things over their heads because they're making so much individually let alone as a group that they genuinely could just up and leave whenever they want.
Enhypen does not have that leverage. If be shit was a regular company right a regular mid to small size company cuz they would fall under the larger small / a small mid-size company. Then Enhypen would definitely have leverage and more say they would actually be able to negotiate things and probably get better treatment but because of the fact that they're just one artist in one company under HYBE they don't have that. Like again when you realize that the BTS members barely had as much leverage as you think they would have when they resigned / extended their contracts what the fuck makes you think that they would allow any of their smaller groups to have leverage.
Anyway on to the next topic.
I think it's funny the media play because they're basically sharing information about shit we already knew.
Friendly reminder the whole like copyright lawsuit for those two songs have been going on right the allegations have been going on and they reported about it since late last year. When this entire court case against new jeans started this was already something that was happening. And it was basically kind of just brushed off and dismissed because no that isn't exactly what happened it was a fucking sample mind you the people who are suing them also sampled that sample from older songs.
But now all of a sudden it's being blown out of proportion and exaggerated for the sake of them being able to be like see the girls themselves were copying people and they also have no originality and it's funny as hell. But what really pisses me off is I noticed there's these three YouTubers specifically one's a white girl once this black older woman and ones this man.
I have never seen them covered Jack diddly fucking shit in K-pop that has happened as much as they've been covering this and they're always on the side of the corporation and I am convinced that they're fucking paid by them. Don't let their janky ass setups fool you don't let their 2000's digicam looking footage fool you don't let their non-crisp audio fool you these people are being paid there's no way in hell that they especially the ones cuz two of them are beyond grown ass adults they're old enough to be my fucking parents and my parents are in their 50s and '60s. Are out here siding with a goddamn Mega corporation over five young girls. And mind you is not even like they're just hating on mhj because at least then I'm like okay I can kind of see you being dumb enough to fall for that propaganda but like no they're like hating all the members of themselves the same as the members are so stupid they don't feel like they were manipulated they had such a good thing at that company not realizing it's not the same company.
That's the one thing I think people who keep talking about the NJZ situation don't seem to understand.Ador fired all of the original staff except for that one chick who decided to stay. Everyone else was either fired they were put on probation or their life was made a living hell like x people who used to work there literally talked about that and said that they had to they just quit because they basically do this all the time right people don't seem to understand in East Asia there is this thing that they do because firing you is actually a hassle for the company. So instead they basically bully you out of the company they'll have everyone else in the company not talk to you they'll tell everyone to isolate you they'll tell them if you walk into a room and they're talking be quiet when they walk by. Be very cold and like to the point when you're talking to them give them mediocre task they'll just have them constantly trying to figure something out that they can't do right it's basically just like busy work until it gets so bad the environment and the hostility that they'll just quit.
Like this is a thing If you ever watched even YouTube channels of people who have worked abroad in Korea or Japan you'll know this is a thing because even they have dealt with it because sometimes they'll hire foreign people because it makes them look good and then when they no longer need them they can't just fire them. That's too much paperwork and you do have to play unemployment in those countries if they are fired so instead of doing that the easiest thing to do is make them want to quit. And as long as you're not blatantly doing something that comes off as like actual workplace harassment it works. If everyone in the workplace is just ignoring you and being cold to you giving you the cold shoulder but they're not like verbally berating you no one's putting hands on you they're just forgetting to tell you about a meeting they're not keeping you updated with things they're purposely giving you a bunch of work that you will never be able to finish. That's not seen as bullying it's just oh now you don't like your job if that's the case then just quit.
So if none of the original staff members are there anymore what makes people think that the girls would be treated the same way they were. They have none of their original producers because they're all being sued by the company too, mhj was their main creative director but outside of her the other senior creative director has been fired they only have that one girl she wasn't even a senior creative director. Their stylists have all been fired from hair to make up they don't even have the same managers anymore their managers were fired so what makes you think that that's not going to be a hostile environment that they're just going to be trapped in until their contracts are over. And then speaking of contracts they might not even be able to leave in 2027 if the company decides to sit there and again give them a bunch of random fucking debt that's what people aren't looking at. Mhj did it to a point where the girls didn't owe her a bunch of debt to the company. Within their first year they were able to not only pay back all of the debt that they owed to their company and to HYBE but they were genuinely making a profit. That's why I think the company ramped Up this hate train against them and decided to go after the girls and mhj because they no longer had the leverage and that's what everyone seems to not be understanding.
Hybe needs to have this leverage over these companies that they can keep making the money that they're making so that they can keep trying to beat their way until the top three companies cuz they still technically have it made more money than the other main three companies I think they're getting pretty close to it or once or twice they have overtaken yg.
But for them to be able to do something that has never been done before which is basically to bully their way into the top three K-pop companies and make a name for themselves solidify that they have to have the talent and the star power they cannot have that on their own. They need to have all of these smaller sub dairy companies. They need to be able to control them so that they can keep having them have these comebacks in these world tours and do all this stuff and the only way to do that is to have them be in debt to them.
So if they can no longer control them with money and them being in debt then they try to control them with fear or will ruin your reputation that backfired because they refuse to just bow down and be like oh where is so sorry we did this that's not what we mean we'll listen to you evil Porky the pig overlord. That's why we are where we're at currently.
And what I think is crazy is the fact that when all of this first started happening there were so many actors actresses idols producers people who showed that they were on the side of new jeans and technically they still are on the side of the girls they just don't talk about it because like it's an ongoing case it's been ongoing for about a fucking year now. But all of a sudden all of those people were wrong and they know nothing about the entertainment industry or how shitty it is or how company's purposely try to keep you in debt or how they manipulate people and all those people who want change in the industry even now they still talk about wanting there to be more fail-saves for the idols things that would protect them because again they don't have a union they have no laws and regulations to protect them they're not considered office workers but they also don't have the same rights as regular contract workers where you can leave your contract for reasonable reasons. So they're kind of stuck in this weird limbo where they really are kind of just seen as property and that sucks. And so you still have all these celebrities fighting for this yet somehow people still think the girls are in the wrong even though again the law has been on their side with the exception of that one judge who clearly had ties to bang PD.
And it's like all of those people are just in the wrong and are consistently in the wrong? Like it don't make no damn sense and like I said getting back to those three people specifically that keep seeing and I keep having to tell YouTube and all my other social medias I don't want to see their faces. I have never seen them cover anything else as intensely as they're covering this and then the way that they're covering it is very biased. And people will be like see this person over there talking and it's like no they don't because they're only looking at it from a biased view of the company is right.
Like I've seen actual good thing pieces and like videos here and there done by non K-pop fans even on Chinese social media people who aren't fans of K-pop who've talked about everything that's going on with this and they're neutral and they can see that the corporation is in the wrong. The only thing they say the girls might have done wrong is not good enough evidence. As in they didn't stay in the company long enough for the company to start doing dumb shit like taunting them or showing that they aren't going to do anything for the girls or purposely trying to sabotage them so they had enough evidence that even with a corrupt judge the judge wouldn't be able to sit there and be like yeah no none of this is like bad. Or if the judge tried to do that they could release the shit publicly because technically you wouldn't be against the law for them to do that and if the public saw that and other lawmakers and it's like this is clearly neglect or abuse or a breach of contract get them the fuck out of there they would have had a higher chance of getting the fuck out of there.
I've seen lawyers both International and from Korea talking about how the girls did everything correct they were not breaking laws like some people are saying with like the giving them 30 days to fix or give them an explanation for things and their contract. Sitting there and breaking the contract the way that they did and lawyering up or any of that so again it's like you have to be extremely ignorant or just really biased to sit there and still think the company's in the right.
And that's not even looking at the facts of how often this company likes to make examples out of people. I was talking with my aunt who's the army the other day. We were talking about that time when JK had his shares in the company low-key stolen and how they were trying to buy properties under the company's name with his money and how weird that was but then we realized that that happened right after the rainbow heart controversy where he showed support for new jeans. V when he sat there and had to talk about not one of his text messages out there but then when you looked into it those text messages that ended up getting late by that journalist was a journalist that has been paid by HYBE on multiple occasions and when you realize that the company had actually asked for a copy of all of mhj's evidence that she handed into the courts and they gave it to them meaning that they were the ones who got that screenshot of the text messages meaning they were the ones who purposely sat there and did this to their own member of one of their own groups. And it makes sense because he was the other BTS member that seemed to have shown solidarity with the girls. SVT when you look at the members who also showed solidarity with the girls and which of those members all ended up in some weird ass scandals that made absolutely zero fucking sense. Manon and her situation. People overlook that she was also one of the only members who talked about new jeans being one of her favorite artists she was one of the only members that showed any form of empathy for the girls she was also one of the only artists who sat there and openly was against the genocide that mind you the company has literal IDF soldiers working for them.
Then all of a sudden she's on hiatus for health reasons even though she publicly went out of her way to let the fans know that she was perfectly fine. This company makes examples out of any of their artists who do not fall in line and do what they say.
This company has one of the biggest PR firms backing them. The only reason why I'm not super worried about everything is because one of their biggest con men have already jumped ship.
If scooter is jumping ship then that means that this company is going down faster than the fucking titanic. We haven't even scratched the iceberg yet. Because you have to understand that man stayed cleaning on to dying companies twice before all the way up until they basically choked as quickly as he made sure to sit there and get demoted and pull all of his money out of the company and has basically almost fully jump ship you know they're fucking screwed because when even the rats and cockroaches are trying to escape there is no hope.