One of the main reasons for warcraft discourse is the “progressives” getting their victimhood mixed up
Admitedly it stems from the intrinsic prejudices of gamer culture and american culture. Do to racism and the popular idea to make victims of abuse into literal monsters the bad guys of warcraft became the tribal “natives” and the murdered forsaken.
But even if the origin of this problem is problematic the fact is the orcs and forsaken ARENT the victims. Its common these days to draw real world parallels and since the forsaken are victims of violence and orcs are EXTREMELY losely based on tribal culture that we want to treat them as the good guys.
But WITHIN the narrative that couldnt be more wrong. Orcs for decades have justified mass murder and genocide based on the idea other cultures are weak and inferior. Old Soldier and A Good War were NOT meant to show the Horde is noble. It was meant to show how evil the horde was being. How Saurfang and ppl like him are willing to commit evil if it makes them feel good. Saurfang and his soldiers GLEEFULLY killed Alliance for “being alliance”. Thats called Genocide Samantha! The ending of the story had saurfang realuze that Sylvannas used his bloodlust and willingness to commit murder if it was a Fair Fight in order to slaughter innocents. “A good war” is ironic because the point of the story is to show there IS no good war.
Similarly the forsaken have been trained by sylvanas to resent the living. The plague was meant to kill living and undead. Ive seen many quote her from cata saying they NEED to make more forsaken…yet no reason why the forsaken as a culture deserves to exist. They are just humans with a condition.
The alliance as a group ISNT prejudiced. Stormwind, lordearon and quelthalas were ALL destroyed by orcs and undead. Ppl want to point at the dead forsaken emissaries as proof but if this were The Walking Dead no one would question killing an undead that showed up when literally 3 kingdoms were destroyed by them.
Sylvanas’s “we have to murder ppl to preserve our own” is the “white genocide "rhetoric.
Orcs arent tribal natives victims of colonialism. They ARE the colonizers. Guldan is christopher columbus and the orcs are the european scourge.
Bias against people who want to wipe out your civilization is NOT prejudice. Its reason
And its blatantly obvious. Via Before the Storm, baine and saurfangs story and other bits that this dxpansion is going to be when the horde casts off its evil elements and becomes actual heroed
Might want to check your alliance bias. No really. The dwarves in the alliance were heavily sexist as just one example.
You’re also getting the orcs of the horde mixed up with each previous horde. Guldan was never a member of the current horde. Here you seem confused. This is the old horde: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Old_Horde And you’ve incorrectly cited the trolls as cannibals in the past. The trolls of the horde aren’t cannibals. And our new allied race? NEVER WAS.
I said to my friends that blizzard’s sloppy attempts at writing something more “grey” would bring out shallow alliance fans who attack horde players with weirdly one sidedv views that look like racist shit.
Blizzard LITERALLY describes the horde as such: The indomitable Horde is driven by unity. They are fervent keepers of freedom and hope, relentlessly opposed to any who threaten these ideals, including the stringent Alliance.
But continue to bash them looking like a racist idiot, by all means. I wouldn’t want you to have to think about the things the alliance does or that neither side is good. That’d mean you couldn’t live in your little heroic defender of azeroth bubble.



















