seeing discourse about veganism and vegetarianism genuinely feels like im on a prank show.
what do you mean you can love animals while paying for them to be stripped of their individuality, tortured, used, and murdered? (research things like piglet thumping, what happens to male chicks, the cages cafos keep animals in, the average ages of animals at slaughter)
what do you mean a can of beans is more expensive than beef? (you can buy a can of chickpeas for less than a dollar. you can get frozen edamame for $2-3, same with tofu. if you have access to grocery stores, frozen edamame can last 6-12 months and its tasty, canned foods can last years. pair beans and rice and you have a complete protein that can last a long time in your pantry.)
what do you mean you cant get necessary nutrients from a vegan diet? (protein comes from plants btw. vitamin b12 is produced by bacteria, not livestock. it is literally supplemented to the animals you eat. foods like tofu, seitan, quinoa, and more are complete proteins. beans, chickpeas, and leafy greens like spinach and kale are rich in iron)
what do you mean plant based diets are a white person thing? (the countries w the most vegans/vegetarians r india and mexico btw)
what do you mean plant farming is worse than animal farming? (in the us, over 60% of crops go to feeding livestock, not humans. if everyone in the world switched to a plant-based diet, we could reduce the amount of land used for crop farming by as much as 75%)
what do you mean feminism and veganism are not connected? (female farm animals are stripped of their individuality and reduced to their organs and how their suffering can benefit humans. cows and pigs are forcefully impregnated, and they have their babies taken from them. mother pigs are forced into small cages with only enough space to lay down on their sides while their piglets nurse. they can’t move, and they can’t choose to stop nursing. dairy cows have to give birth to produce milk. they are selectively bred to produce more milk than necessary to feed their young, and they are in pain when they aren’t milked enough. dairy cows arent “happy to be milked”, they are trying to relieve the intense pressure in their udders because it hurts. female chickens are locked in cramped cages, forced to sit painfully and uncomfortably on metal bars and lay eggs, often ending up with weak, brittle bones due to the lack of calcium.)
these animals are living and conscious individuals with personalities and social lives. their suffering is real and it cannot be justified. educate yourselves and the people around you.