Curt, 'Today' (10.05.2022):
Even after 46 years of working together, I don't know how to describe Roland. He lives in the moment. I think he explained it well when we won the Ivor Novello Award last year: He described me as the brake to his accelerator, which is pretty much how it works.
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Once we get the balance right, it works fantastically. After all, you can't get very far with just a brake. It requires a driving force.
Roland, 'TalkShopLive' Q&A (02.07.2026):
The Saturn principle, the Saturnian archetype is an easy one to understand because if you look at your car, look at the well underneath the driving wheel, there are two pedals generally. There's accelerator and a brake. Saturn is the brake. The brake keeps you driving at the speed limit. Stops you hitting people or crashing the car. If you drive faster than the speed limit, Saturn, you're no longer owning Saturn. The police might catch you. The police are Saturn.
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Saturn amounts to experience, the university of life. It's that 9-to-5 job where you finally get promotion after years with the company. You have become reliable. It is a planet more at ease of age or maturity than youth. It is the planet of age-based hierarchy. Curt and I were young and maybe had to go through that experience if only to toughen us up for what was to come: massive success. As a psychic force, Saturn never feels expansive. You won't feel jubilant, but you can feel satisfied and safe in his predictable world. And what you achieve through those periods should, like bone or teeth, stand the test of time.
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