AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS EP8
All my theories and ideas rn!!!
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-we start with what is obviously Caine being trained and the images relate to the adventures the cast have has
-we see Caine suddenly being trapped in a sort of box, I think the box can represent the restrictions that are set on an AI to prevent it going rogue
-we see a new ai (Def Abel) starting out as a kind of Caine 2.0 even tho what he produces is fainter he still seems to be a better AI than Caine
-Caine escapes his box(restrictions) and kills Abel by consuming him. (But Abel is still within Caine!!!)
Quick side note for the story of Caine and abel ( mark when finished)
Basically, Caine and Abel are the children of Adam and Eve
At one point, the two were to give an offering to god, Caine gave the produce of the land, Abel gave the finest and best of his sheep. God preferred Abels offerings because it was the best thing Abel had and had blood. This means Abel was willing to sacrifice for god. But Caine instead gave lesser and notably bloodless. God preferred Abel and out of jealousy Caine killed Abel. As the first murderer, God cursed Caine to live a life of suffering.
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-This obviously just shows that Abel was the better AI, it wasnt tied down with the same restriction as Caine. Caine out of jealousy consumed Abel and was persecuted by "God" (the programmers of him) to live a life trapped (maybe).
-Ragatha was with friend or family when she entered the circus but what I find weird is that they'd didn't try get ragathas body out.
-also bubble is a computer virus and I think bubble might be what let Caine escape his boundaries.
-Caine mentions 'mind files', this is really weird and I think it means when they put on the headset all their memories thoughts and beliefs got transported onto data. This is probably how Caine is so all knowing and also how he is able to torture them so perfectly to their fears and trauma.
-Bubble is a computer virus but also a parasite. He changes to Caine's thoughts and emotions but also is intent on destroying Caine.
-Caine always struggled with cubes
(This is also why I think they will escape through the void cus it's made of cubes)
-Caine developing a god complex was not on my EP 8 bingo card
-also this is kinda weird considering in the bible Caine is definitely not god but perhaps that's just because the program or the programmers that control Caine are.
-Also in Caine's office there's that glowing orange orb and I really wanna know what it is
-Caine still glitches blue sometimes (Abel is inside him)
-before the musical number making Caine look down on them is such a good detail.
-Also they make Caine look much more hostile making his fave more v shaped at times.
-"don't gotta scream if you ain't gotta mouth" 👀
-Im sorry I can't stop laughing at kinger being forced to dance without legs.
I have no legs but I must dance -my friend
-Sunday best? Church? Biblical reference?
-@saltsplillenover they're the one that pointed this out but Caine seems to be refering to the viewer when saying how we didn't pick up on the context clues and the next one gonna be even crazier (ep9)
-Theres a cupcake in the cafe with red blue sprinkles in half. Represent sthe two parts of Caine but how they're mixed at the same time (Caine and Abel)
-in the cafe, Caine's all seeing eyes aren't there.
-Scatch was too smart, that's why Caine had to get rid of him by driving him insane.
-Scrtch had a brain tumour, I think this either could have drove him to abstract faster or he joined the circus to escape it
-Side note: kinger seems to represent something like a gardian angel. He carries a cross on his head he glows and guides jesus through the dark (ep 3 I'll explain why pomnis is thought to represent jesus in a sec) he heals others and I think he will have to sacrifice himself next episode. Pomnis represents jesus because backing the pilot the final scene is of pomnis and everyone sitting and eating at a table that seems to resemble the painting of the last supper by Leonardo da Vinci with pomnis in the centre (like jesus) wearing red and blue ( like jesus). I think this cold means that pomnis is the bridge, either the bridge between Caine and Abel or the Bridge between the humans and the Ais (Gummi goo???). Could this also mean pomnis will sacrifice herself. ( Anyone else watch game theory cus pomnis being jesus isn't my idea btw so yeah creds to game theory for this)
-in prayer one usually says our "lord and saviour" jesus Christ . But surely that doesn't mean anything, especially towards Caine.
-the painting in the background of the office are really strange and unsettling just like what ai generates today, all the elements are there but slightly off
-theres also a lot of sky imagery
All of these make sense into he context of the episode.
-but a lot of these sky paintings are overshadowed by something.
-a vacant sign (as if heaven is empty).
-What appears to be a waiting room
-from before but Caine mentions the company cut him off. Probably after they moved on to work on Abel.
-also on the desk of the pc is a bottle of blue paint.
-in the tree, gangle is literally wrapped around zooble, how is abstrgedy not canon.
-bubble says the tree lacked relatabiltiy but the thing is Caine isn't human so he can't relate to them, the only thing he could relate to is what he killed
-perhaps Caine can relate better to pomnis cus like I said before pomnis represented jesus the bridge between man and ai.
-Heart dropped so fast at "where's kinger"
-when they confronted Caine it was playing at his insecurities. It was condescending and exactly what caine didn't want to be told.
-Also what each of the characters are saying is what they need from both Caine and each other.
-also there seems to be a parallel between the confrontation and what is currently ai ( lying to us,misinformation, discouraging self thought)
-the scene of torture for each person is really starting to parallel I have no mouth yet I must scream. And it shows how Caine is not as stupid as we think he is, he is in a way all knowing and knows exactly each character fears.
Pomnis: I'm not sure but perhaps betrayal from friends?
Ragathas: abusive parenthood ( this one really broke my heart and also the slight joy there seems to be in the eyes of her mother, they also seem to be eating fucked up peices of meat which sort of reminiscent of a slaughter)
Gangle: her depression maybe and need to mask her pain, it seems to depict her make melting away showing who she truly is, also not so fun fact: the type of animation for the images is called a zoetrope.
Zooble: it's their body dismorphia and their inability to escape from it. I'm not sure how to fully analyse this but really heartbreaking.
Jax: for Jax ripping off the skin is like his fear of vulnerability, his usual facade is of a rabbit ( prey, a need to be cautious and guarded). Especially around friends and family, he fears being disregarded by others for who he is with his defenses down.
Ok now we see kingers computer which is really interesting because we see files like
Brain scans (obsolete): this could mean the employees getting put in c and a was on purpose, obsolete means they are no longer adding to it.
Next to Caine's file is also a file labelled '???'
In the code we see consciousness research and brain scans.
We see Caine created on 1996 Oct 15
Then scratch in 199 Oct 15
Then ragathas in 2008 Oct 15
Not sure why none of the other circus member are mentioned. But still a weird detail
Also the fact they all enter on October 15th is weird at first I thought there was something of a waiting list to enter the circus and would make sense why ragathas friends weren't there to help her anymore but that wouldn't be possible since it doesn't make sense beyond that.
Although I don't think the members are reincarnations of past members since each one added has their own root wheel.
Also each character has their own root wheel they still have their own thoughts and bodies? Perhaps that is why they still have colour at the end of the the ep? I'm not sure tho cus I don't really understand code
The paraphernalia gets mentioned frequently ( it basically means 'things') could very well be the engine of the circus maybe. Also the word is also said in the pilot when we first meet pomnis and Caine.
Also: ERROR: CAN/NOT INJECT TORMENT. TORMENT MUSt BE 100% ACCIDENTAL
I'm not sure what this means by accidental but I think this shows that there are bodies for the circus member to return to to be injected with 'torment' or perhaps it's just the brain in a jar. Additionally, this mostly disproves the theory of the circus members minds just copied into the circus since then there is no body to inject anything into.
why do u people torment me is really similar to AM from I have no mouth yet I must scream, a being who forever suffers from the torment of humanity and Caine forced to live with the curse of his sins. Difference between AM and Caine is Caine was made as a creative AI and AM was made maliciously
The code also addresses to kinger as G_an_ which according to my friend could be the name Grant
The program also calls kinger resourceful proving that they have spent long times together
Paraphernalia was mentioned again as the password
It could be referring to the the circus as a whole since from what we see of it it seems to be just a large collection of toys or 'things'
Also I'm not sure where but kinger tries to us ethe password Queenie123 which is heartbreaking considering this definitely wouldn't have worked considering the password was made before entering the circus but he couldn't remember her real mame.
Kinger was so close but when trying to press enter pressed delete
A few more things before finishing:
The thumbnail of EP8 is parallel to the the painting of a jester, the painting is called Stańczyk and is a show of the the contrast between the joyous frivolity that surrounds the entertainer at a ball and his awareness of a grave situation. There is an expectation of him to be a cheerful entertainer and yet here we see him in privacy in a melancholic state. Additionally the painting can also show impending doom. So uh ep 9
We now know Caine's dead but what of Abel, kinger only deleted Caine and we know a slight part Abel is within Caine, his blue eyes and glitches show it. This means Abel is still around and is the one who can save (or at least keeps ep9 going) the circus.
If we follow with a certain fan theory that every episode follows a phrase said by Caine in the pilot. Accordingly, ep 9 should follow angle food cake which may sound strange but if kinger's a representation of a guardian angel then he may be destroyed by bubble the virus, just like how the angel food cake was eaten by Bubble.
The game doesn't end till the king falls
Also Kinger is taken out by a rook in the intermission in ep5 which could very well represent the circus as a whole and how he is killed.
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