Excerpt from a phone call with my grandmother
(I need to be so clear right now: I do not and will never proactively bring up politics with my āIām not MAGA, Iām Republicanā grandmother, but my dad both forces her to talk about this stuff and is pretty mean about it, so I think she brings it up with me because she knows Iām not going to yell or whatever.)
Grandmother: Your dadās a socialist now.
Me: what? He said that? (Sidenote: my dad is a conspiracy theorist who was MAGA and Iām pretty sure once thought Obama was a lizard person, but he left QAnon, voted for Harris in 2024, and now I understand his politics even less than when he was super right-wing because heās still a dang conspiracy theorist and believes too many racial stereotypes but loves Obama now??? Have no idea if heās just accepted that lizard people are people too or if heās renounced his Reptilian Elite beliefs entirely and Iām too scared to ask.)
G: Next thing you know, heāll be a communist.
Me: He told you heās a socialist? I donāt think heās a socialist, at least not how youāre thinking.
G: thatās what he said. He said heās a Democratic Socialist.
Me: okay, so thatās different than pure socialism. Itās not like what they have in Russia. (I did try to explain a little bit more of what I understand of democratic socialism here as well, but the explanation was brief and apparently lacking as youāll soon see.)
G: Well, I donāt like whatās going on in New York.
Me: You donāt have to. You donāt live there.
G: I just donāt understand why all these people who hate it here so much donāt just leave.
Me: what people? Itās hard to leave even if you want to, but who are you talking about?
G: those people in New York.
Me: ā¦are you talking about the primary winners?
G: yes. I just donāt understand why they stay here if they hate America so much.
Me: what did they say they hate about America? Because Iāve been told I hate America, but I donāt. I have a deep appreciation for our Constitution and the system that was set up, but I also donāt agree with how things are being run now.
G: Well, I donāt know. I donāt like that mayor.
G: yes. If he hates how things are, he should just go back to where heās from instead of making everyone change.
(I need to interject to emphasize that my grandmother has absolutely no ties to New York City. Iām not even confident that sheās ever set foot in New York state and no one she knows lives anywhere near there.)
Me: Well, people voted for him because they liked his ideas and Iāve been hearing a lot of good things from New Yorkers.
G: He doesnāt need to change everything. I donāt like how things are, either, but if you just wait a while, they change eventually.
Me: well, but they change because people who care enough to do something about it actually act to change things. Things donāt just change all on their own.
G: I just think if he wants to be a socialist, he should go back to wherever heās from and be in their government there since he likes that so much.
Me (as I frantically look up what sort of government Uganda has): I mean, he wouldnāt be able to be in a socialist government in Uganda, either. They have a parliamentary system. (At this point, Iāve abandoned trying to explain democratic socialism and am just working from her worldview, which is that the commie-socialists, probably led by Known Socialist Zohran Mamdani or an AU Communist Kamala Harris, are going to take over the US and plunge us into the depths of despair.)
G: he might as well go to Iran.
Me: you think a democratic socialist would be allowed to lead in Iran? Theyāre a religious dictatorship right now.
G: well. I just donāt like him.
Me: again, no one is asking you to.