Hiii I keep seeing this one person on tiktok saying nightwing being romani is inherently racist (and it seems like maybe youāve seen them too š). I understand the arguments I see over how itās written or if heās white/POC or any other kind of nuanced stuff like that, but theyāre not even saying that, theyāre saying that at its core the retcon is racist bc itās a stereotype. Iāve seen and enjoyed a lot of your posts about this topic but I was curious if you think this personās opinion is valid/how you would counter it. Sorry if youāve answered this kind of question before and I havent seen it!
Yeah, Iāve definitely seen themā¦
Spoiler: this is gonna be a vent/rant post lol
Part of me really wants to just reply to their videos with one of my own* and just stand there like š§āāļøāhi.ā Because, surprise, I am a Showman ā my entire cultural identity is literally just defined as being a gypsy/traveller from the fairground/circus. Please, oh omniscient Tiktoker who isnāt even part of our closed culture, tell me all about how my very existence and the existence of the 20,000 other Showmen in the UK alone is nothing but a racist stereotype.
Maybe that sounds harsh, but it is something which does really annoy me. Our culture is closed, and as such, this information is not freely available, so it does make me question why people with no real tangible connection to our culture feel qualified to comment so definitively on the issue.
Iām not saying that the representation of Dickās heritage in canon or in fandom has been perfect. There definitely are times in which certain writers fall back or rely on racist tropes or caricatures in their writing (I hesitate to say āespecially Graysonā, since Dickās heritage is a lot more central to her storytelling than subsequent runs, so thereās gonna be more opportunity to slip up. Generally, I enjoy her run). Similarly, as Iāve posted about before, there are also many in the fandom who have, even if well intentioned, fallen back on racist stereotypes, ironically, in an attempt to undo racist stereotypes. And, yeah, these examples can and should be called out and discussed (especially with the input of someone who is GRT, ideally), but as someone who is ethnically Romani, who grew up speaking the language and part of the culture, on the fairgrounds myself with my family in the circus, the idea that Dickās heritage, even if it is a retcon, is racist is, simply, absolutely ludicrous to me because it is my lived experience! You canāt āsounds fake but okā my literal life story, lol.
Also: something I find really common in those types of TikTok posts is discussion of what % Romani heritage Dick has⦠which 1) is a very American perception of race which really weirds out my European mind, and 2) seems WAY more racist than the supposed racism they claim to be against. So many of these posts/comments try to claim that Dick is āonly 1/4 Romaniā and therefore it doesnāt matter at all, which feels very much like theyāre trying to preserve their perfect WASPy gorja boy, which feels dodgy to me lol. My response here would be that I truly donāt know where theyāre getting that information from in current canon. I presume it comes from a mix of pre-Flashpoint John Grayson being Romani, uses of phrases like āRomani heritageā in canon, the idea that Mary was a dental assistant (and thus could never be Romani because we all know that Romani people canāt have any job other than *checks notes* circus performer, fortune teller, Esmerelda, or thief), and William Cobb as Dickās great-grandfather. And whilst I could argue that, since Rebirth, we could argue that Dick could be 7/8 Romani (if we consider āeverythingās canonā and thus Johnās dad could be a diddakoi, since who is to say if Cobb is Romani or not, and Mary is commonly presented as Romani across multiple runs), I wonāt bother to argue that, because Iād much rather say that unless youāre a real fan of the Nuremberg Laws, it doesnāt even fucking matter what % Romani he is. Iāve got a cousin who is, ethnically, 3/4 Romani and who grew up on the fairgrounds and is fully in the culture ā her mum remarried a gorja man, and so my cousinās half-siblings are only ethnically 1/4 Romani, and guess what ā it doesnāt fucking matter; they are, in the eyes of everyone in the culture, Romani kids who grew up in the culture, speak the language, grew up on fairgrounds, etc etc. So if itās good enough for us, why is it not good enough for random gorjas on the internet?
I also want to point out that I also donāt view the fact that itās a retcon as being a bad thing. Even if youāre somehow a continuity purist and think this came out of nowhere, I think itās totally possible to read a Romani/Showman background into Dickās character, pre-Grayson. Many of Dickās core personality traits are the type of beliefs which parents in our culture set out to instil into their kids, and the fact that itās never brought up before also isnāt a big deal, because, tbh, I donāt really have much reason to talk about my ethnicity in such explicit terms in my real life, either. I personally love the fact that Grayson retconned this in, and that itās gradually become more accepted in subsequent runs, because 1) I donāt think itās too stereotypical, I think itās believable, 2) rep is rep, and itās not something we get a lot of (especially in a positive light), 3) even if she didnāt always get it right, Grayson tried! (Honestly, I think a lot of the fandomās handling of Dickās ethnicity is a lot more problematic than what we see in Graysonās writing).
This ended up being way longer (and perhaps passive-aggressive lol) than I intended, but TLDR: even if Dick being a gypsy from the circus is stereotypical, that doesnāt mean itās wrong, because there are plenty of us for whom that is our exact experience (such as myself!). In fact, I would even argue that the hoops in which these people go through in order to argue that Dick being Romani is racist is often even more racist than the thing theyāre arguing against itself! Anyway, you can pry Romani Dick Grayson from my cold, dead hands lol
*I wonāt, because I donāt like being on camera anyway, but especially not since I work with kids.