I'm inclined to think J (as pred) would only do hard vore I guess because like idk she doesn't have the level of sadism V has, or the animal-esque mannerisms N has, just seems inefficient, and she wouldn't see a point from an intimacy perspective. Also more flavor in chomping stuff to bits. But my mind could be changed, I have rarely seen vore stuff with J I don't have a lot of inspo ๐
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Like it's all the same principles of normal double dates: group of friends, there's two pairs of two, stuff happens like they go to dinner and each pair sits next to each other and across from the other pair, each pair holds hands, all that. It's just that they're all actually in a relationship but in the double date scenario each pair is focusing their attention on their unique dynamic with one another, and otherwise treating the others like platonic friends for the time being. But enjoying each other's company and appreciating how cute the other date pair look together and stuff.
I already like thinking of all ways each pair of drones has their own dynamics and way of loving each other and they spend one on one time. I think it's cute if they do it at the same time too and engage with the opposite couple's dynamics.
Like example, I see Uzi and J as more platonic leaning together, while V and N are very saccharine. Uzi would be like "omg they're so mushy look at them. Let's sneak out and leave them with the bill while they're distracted looking into each other's eyes lol" and J's like "that's so dastardly I love it"
Another is how I see J and N being kinda shy and awkward with each other, J being on the aro spectrum but N (her Person throughout her self improvement journey) stirs up a confusing crush feeling that never fully resolves into something she can label, N knows it and tries to let her call the shots even if he thinks she's really attractive, so even hand holding is always a flustering ordeal for them. Well basically V and Uzi fuck with them by excessively making out and getting handsy where they can see it to make J and N more adorably ansty and sweaty next to each other.
And I guess I may as well give the third example lol obviously N and Uzi radiate best friends in love, J and V I feel also see their relationship a little nebulously, I think V has very strong romantic feelings for J, J is wishy washy similar to N, but her history with V charges it differently. J has this longing to be V's best friend more than anything, while V kind of left that in the past where it broke, leaving this kind of incomplete feeling of wanting J to be her girlfriend specifically without making their friendship deeper. I think the two of them seeing N and Uzi's dynamic from the outside looking in makes V in particular forget her hangups with the past in favor of mimicking N and Uzi's dynamic without realizing (fueled also by her friendly rivalry with Uzi), and it's so natural with J more than V realizes too. I think it's one of the situations that leaves them feeling a little confused after because they're like "was that really us?" And they cant quite flow into it the same when they're alone. I think it's something that lasts a long time, if not indefinitely (like J + N's deal), but I think it's like not a bad thing I think the two of them like who they are when they're in the mindset of being like N and Uzi, maybe that's just the thing maybe the best of them is most easily brought out by the best people they know!
^(That one got more complicated than the other "fucking with each other" ones oops but I guess that's the variety yeah sometimes it's Lots of Feelings! And other times they're all silly dorks.
Spicy n/j thoughts ..๐ซฃ (with a lot of jangst before the spice) (long. Had many pent of thoughts of my own lol..) (never normal about them they fry my brain cells)
So thinking about like. Redemption arc J still in the early piece of shit stage and only starting to try to work on things like still catches herself calling him stupid and stuff sometimes, and N let's those relatively harmless things slide mostly cause of patience and like old habits die hard but also secretly thinks she's really hot and he's not exactly not into mean women being mean to him (just y'know..there's a line)
But imagine..... J having a particularly bad moment of snapping at him more intensely as usual like saying some cutting remarks punctuated with an up close and personal threat, and then she like recoils after realizing she lost control a little there and did a contract violation(tm), N can see in real time the pang of "oh fuck" hit her so before she can get into a panic attack or something he's just like, "hey hey don't get worked up mistakes are bound to happen and the important part is learning from them right?" And she's like, "right... Yeah......I didn't... mean those things..." ("sorry"s still taste too acrid to get out but, baby steps). And N reassures her he's not angry he's not gonna "tell on her", just lets work on holding back the outbursts because it's not really okay to speak to him like that and she knows it.
Later on when J's alone she's dwelling on it, getting frustrated at herself, feeling like N lets her off the hook too easily which she's both incredibly relieved about because it means she doesn't get kicked out, but also like guilty he puts up with her, it can't be pleasant, he's gotta be hiding how he really feels about her behind his everyone's-friend veneer. Maybe out of pity for her maybe cause he's just too nice to say no maybe because he hates himself and being J's "friend" is a self punishment but like surely his patience will run out or he'll gain too much respect for himself.
Meanwhile N is alone thinking back about the moment and how it put butterflies in his stomach because he always had a bit of a Thing for her (just y'know less so than V) even though like.. undoubtedly she did make him feel terrible in the past, but holy cow she always looked gorgeous doing it, she was so hot and dominant, it made getting pushed around sometimes thrilling. So.. her old self showing for a moment after it's been a long time just ignites that arousal. He replays it in his mind (maybe literally since it seems like they have background recording LOL) while jerking off and shamefully kind of wishing she didn't catch herself so quickly, maybe she would've kept reaming him, maybe pushed him down or something... Show him his place below her... He's just a breathy squirmy mess getting off to her.
And he feels bad about this in his own way, she is trying to be a better person, it is a stride in her growth that she did stop herself without having to be told, she knew she did something wrong, she didn't argue. He could surely never ever let her find out he derives any kind of amusement or pleasure from her checkered past or behavioral relapses, nor does he want to send the wrong message and there a lot of potential wrong messages.. one of them being the notion that J's effort is nothing but a joke to him, he doesn't actually care about her or think she's capable of improving, she's just little toy he's playing with until he gets bored.
No it would be terrible if she thought that because he cares SO much about her, has only become more fond of her the more she tries and shows the inner good person she is bit by but. And that's also a shameful drive to the fantasy in a hard to explain way, like he knows these different sides of her and likes both a lot and.. is maybe catching some feelings but dear god she can't find out because she won't believe it's innocuous and hell would freeze over before she felt anything but ... Tolerance for him. "Friendship" even feels like a stretch.
So basically both these goobers are thinking the best the other person does is tolerate the other...... J feels like every time she screws up it's another nail in her work-in-progress coffin, she's going to lose his grace. And N secretly thinks some of her screw ups are really fucking hot and sometimes it compels him to go easy on her and she would be furious or devastated or disgusted or some combo of those things if she knew ๐
...bonus naughty thought (as I love bringing others into complicated horny feelings) .. is N confessing this to Uzi and like bracing himself for disgust (but it just felt wrong to not tell her) but Uzi's like... omg so you do have a thing for her. I kind of had a feeling ๐ I get it man she is kind of hot even though she sucks. I kinda wanna hear more though ๐
N is embarrassed and worried about sharing but he also feels so pent up he wants to get it off his chest... So he asks her to promise whatever he shares about what J did or said, Uzi won't hold it over her or punish her for violation, because he has made his own choice about it not being something he felt needed to be escalated, he has resolved the incident in a satisfactory way with her, PLEASE Uzi promise ๐ฅบ (she promises, she thinks N's protectiveness is charming even if it's towards someone Uzi isn't that fond of, and it would definitely feel wrong to use something so sensitive he confided in her about to do anything to betray his trust)
And with that said he talks about some of the behavior of J's that gets him hot and bothered, the insults he kind of liked.. he gets increasingly turned on and Uzi touches him while encouraging him to keep talking about the way he fantasizes about her following through with her threats, he kind of misses her shoves and smacks but he's rooting for her SO much he doesn't want her to regress he doesn't want her to suffer, god if only he could just ask for her to do it if only it were that simple.
She's doing SO good though oh my goddd so good (throbbingly aroused)(Uzi lovingly holding him from behind and touching him while listening and kissing his shoulder and neck). He's soooo worked up, shuddering, almost crying as he says he wants to be her stress ball again just, give her one night tell her she can do ANYTHING she wants to him, emotionally or literally tear him to pieces, no limit no consequence unleash months of pent up anger. it wouldn't be good for her though for him to ask for it, it would be very confusing and damaging while she's in the volatile state she's in. Uzi praises N for how considerate he is he truly truly is a strong and caring person and it's not bad to have this fantasy, she wishes she could do anything at all to bring it to life between the two of them, alas... But he can at least moan J's name as much as he wants and say whatever he wishes he could say, while Uzi brings him to a VERY much needed intense climax.
And if it's not obvious Uzi finds the whole thing SO cute and hot..... He's way too good for her (in Uzi's mind at least at the time), but.... For how happy it would make him, she kinda hopes he gets his chance with her at some point.
Confirming that is in fact me on my side blog posting in the jenvy thread ๐ (I've had some..weird experiences online with impersonation as harassment not like on this account though, other stuff like years ago but ๐คท)
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How long do u think it will take N and V to realise most of the attitude problems they have with J is not because J hates or dislikes them but because J cannot fathom the idea of giving herself a break
Because in the situation of a envuzi adoption of J (soon to be full company)
It would be the first time N and V are off to the side when it comes to Jโs life obviously they interact but J is basically doing her own thing with supervision and a safety net
This would be the first time they can see her from a different perspective and realise she needs allot of hugs
Her famously foul mode and short fuse?
They thought it was as simple as J hating them but now with having her weekly schedule in hand and seeing J has somehow achieved the ability to work 25 hours a day 7 days a week they realise all those times they thought J was sleeping she was actually putting their stats on a graph with a fake โsleep modeโ on her display
Her losing her shit at the tiniest mistake?
Thought she was aggressively controlling (and while she is controlling) but then they hear Uzi on the phone with her dad who called in a panic because J came into his office ripped her arm off and offered it to him hoping it would please him and give her a softer punishment (her mistake was mistaking a 4 for a 9 so now they have 5 spare door motors)
Her sucking up to people in positions of power?
They thought she was just clambering for power to stroke her ego but after the 2nd month of J doing nothing but running herself ragged they realise she isnโt comfortable resting cuz if she isnโt constantly proving her worth she doesnโt think she has any worth and will be thrown away (for like the 4th time)
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I find it so much fun, just them finally getting to sit on the sidelines and watch J instead of being on the field and dealing with her directly, V getting a chance to spot the little chunks of good N and Tessa saw in J and N being more confident that giving J a second chance was the correct decision as he sees this chunks shine and the darkness that hid them, and Uziโฆโฆ kinda just being there to support the other 2 (maybe seeing the points of weakness cyn abused to keep her loyal and what to tip toe around and what is safe to pester J about)
And J just being completely oblivious to this entire process cuz she needs to go to work or get thrown out
(This has been on my mind for a bit so thatโs why their is all this yappage, I like yapping at you, if u donโt like that lmk and Iโll stop hehe)
Absolutely I feel like living around J in like a Normal circumstance (not on a destroy planets mission just like living in a house going about life) would slowly reveal to everyone what's truly going on with her,
like yes N and V know J was traumatized and abused by the same people and similar circumstances but because J was hiding so much (like, implicitly lying to V saying Tessa was alive, there was some plan to escape Cyn, etc), there's a huge chunk of her trauma completely invisible to them regarding what her relationship with Cyn actually was like, and why J made a lot of the choices she did. Which N and V go no answers or closure for. Because all that really got figured out in the end is that J was deliberately helping Cyn and continued to fight on her side, and maybe those vague words about J admitting she was tricked on some level that went unelaborated.
I think seeing her kind of like doing this inadvertent self harm would be kinda eye opening to the serious damage to her psyche, like even her abrasive attitude being stress induced or distance keeping. And the bending to authority is a big one for sure cause I think the perception really Would kinda be, J wants to stay in good favor because of what it awards (authoritative power over those under her, ego boost, praise) and not the actual reality that it's about avoiding the consequence of losing it (being tossed in the trash).
N being so emotionally perceptive I always imagine him picking up on those things first, that her behavior is self destructive and not serving HER all that well (after all, it's "just survive" mentality). N also just sees the good in others beneath their outward prickliness (gestures to both V and Uzi) and I dont think J is, or necessarily ever was, an exception; certainly seeing her in a very mundane space and stripped of authority there's actually very little to be significantly off put by.
In my mind I see Uzi not just writing J off a lot at first but kinda unconsciously doing the opposite of N where she's only looking for the bad things and assumes any decent behavior is insincere. Uzi is not heartless however, I think letting J stay is more than any claim she might make about it just being for N and V.. because Uzi is a good person, and as antagonistic as her relationship is with J, there's a difference between facing off in a saving the world showdown like alright here I come to kick your ass!! Versus seeing someone very broken down and refusal to be hospitable means they go outside and slowly die of starvation or whatever. The way I see it anywayโUzi's virtue is stronger than any grudge she might hold.
The other thing is I think Uzi might be scared to actually find anything likeable about J or proof she's a good person, because that really complicates things. Like when I see the whole contract deal, for example, I feel like Uzi agreed out of virtue but fully expects J will blow it and then her going back out to die alone in the tundra is her own undoing and not Uzi performing a step in an execution. I don't think she realizes that's how her mind is handling it.
I think a similar thing happens on J's end of it though where she agrees because, well, a real life sounds good, but that's always been too good to be true. So she will agree, and surely the situation will not last, it will suck, everyone will hate her and kick her out and then there it is, proof a better life isn't real and it doesn't matter whether she's mean or nice or what; everything always goes back to the status quo.
Except for when it doesn't and J hits that magic point of realizing she likes her life and doesn't want it to end, which means the proof she was waiting for is her biggest fear, and she thinks the ice is thinner than it is. Because her effort hasn't gone unseen, not just N being all buddy but V has watched that unfold and is so attracted what new J is like it fucks with V's expectation J was a temporary experiment, Uzi having multiple hangups like not wanting to ruin anything for N but feeling wary about J and trying to avoid noticing anything good about her so she can continue feeling wary.
Anyway I think that point of J realizing what she wants to keep is what would manifest that like, self flagellation in front of Khan and stuff and if he were to tell Uzi about that, Uzi would be thinking like.. is she like using my dad to guilt trip me or ??? What the hell?
J just like complicates everything for everyone so much lol
Rambled kinda all over the place just like stream of thought about stuff your ask got me thinking about!
Worm Uzi, DD V and J pinning N down and proceeding to worship/fuck/affection him till until something gives
Taking the affectionate/giving to others one and putting them on the other side and making them recieve affection back. Especially if they're sincere and have been steadfast about supporting the others.
Just the idea of N being on a combined receiving end of the polycule he's loved and supported since day 1.
BIG YAY
I feel like N's so fundamentally inclined to be like servicing to his partners and not like in a doormat way or anything be genuinely loves being in that role! I think it doesn't cross his mind all that much to be on the side of the center of attention like that, and I think it's a little rooted in self esteem and old submissive habits subconsciously. Like no one is doing harm to him now but he just like as a person has his inner insecurities (and he probably sees Uzi as being the bigger catch in the relationship between him and her; ofc she probably thinks the exact opposite), and even if things are all good and nice he spent years and years putting V and J above him. Stuff like that is soooo complicated like when you used to have a very toxic relationship with someone and it flips around completely, old baggage doesn't just disappear even if you're unaware it's still there at all.
I can see the girls wanting to like. Return that big time and just smother him cause the thing is N would probably be like "haha it's okay everyone doesn't need to worry about me", V and J know the roots in that (having planted so many of the seeds), so they're gonna have to like dom him into a worship session (I reckon Uzi in giant worm mode only makes it easier to take control too lol but ofc regular Uzi really good too)where they say soooo much about how good and wonderful he is and ravish him.
I think he'd come undone pretty quickly once it's all on him y'know like probably get teary too and go through some emotional swells of like, thinking he doesn't deserve it, but also actively being aware he wants and likes it, and then just getting lost in the sauce of whimpering and saying he loves them!!
And they do get a lot out of it themselves for sure, he's just so fun to break and just ....deserves all the love >:) Uzi mentally sits on the throne of it I think because she loves him SO much and gets off on seeing him like that. In my mind anyway like sidetracking but I enjoy the idea that after their journey and becoming an item, Uzi conquered her insecurity about losing him to "better" people really well, and when the other people are involved are people she also loves and trusts (J and V in the polycule) it's nothing but rewarding to probably like sic them on him honestly lmao
And it's so nice y'know even the other side of the "used to get treated poorly" like it has its baggage but it also has it's "but now they love me so much I've never been happier in my life" angle and being so proud they've grown as people!
Rambled a lot about the emotional part lol but getting spicy like imagine if wormzi had like a huge freaky monster cock to stuff him with and while she's wearing him like a condom J and V are making out with him and touching him, maybe like stroking Uzi's cock bulge too ๐ yum
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