I: I don't know if there's ever been another songwriter that's had to take than in consideration as much as you have. The public perception, how they're receiving it, what they're interpret- how they're interpreting it. T: Yeah, like anything you say they're like ''Oh, easy for you to say'' I: But how does that not block your creativity? How does that not slow down your process having to think about how it's gonna be interpreted? T: I don't know, sometimes it fuels it. Like, sometimes when people are mocking me it's really fun to mock them back. Sometimes I like to just use words that they have to look up in order to talk shit about. But I go through several processes and coping mechanisms that I've gone through over the years, and one of them is saying 'you chose this, you chose this every day. You could have opted out of this any day before it got unmanageably big'. And I decided not to because I love it that much. And that's just where it begins and where it ends, and everything that comes with this ultimately is worth it as long as I get to still make music.
- Taylor Swift at The Icon Sessions at the Grammy Museum (August 24, 2026)
