Trans In Europe

The back of binder was made of not very elastic material, with a thin elastic band (similar to one in fem underwear) at the bottom, instead of good elastic panel for the whole back. That's what made it loose I think. Moreover, after three months it got even more loose - all was falling out of the bottom, when binder stayed above. I paid almost double the price of sized binder and it went to trash, cause it was unusable. Yet another brand trying to make money off of plus-size and queer people.2/2

It was six weeks where I had it done

From Lithuania there!

I'm a new trans person (FTM)

I was wondering if you knew where i can buy a binder without the shipping costing a lot?

Or just where i could buy a binder!

If possible maybe a little explaining about the sizes and stuff?

Hey! Mod Emil back from the dead due to the Lithuanian anon lol;

My personal favorite is currently Spectrum Outfitters! I recently bought another one and the total cost was €52,90 EUR (including shipping, which was €7,95).

Spectrum Outfitters may be more on the expensive side, but the quality is really good.

Another option is GC2B. They're around the same price range as Spectrum. Last binder I bought cost £45.55 (with a £5.25 discount for Pride Month). There's also costs for the custom's office (muitinė). For some reason, my Spectrum packages never get stuck there though.

There's also BinderMe, they're based in Europe and their binders cost around ~€30 EUR. I haven't personally bought from them, but have a few friends who have and they say the quality is good/binds well.

There's also Underworks, Fytist & TransMissie.

For the sizes, I suggest getting a measuring tape and measuring your chest size & shoulder width. Both GC2B and Spectrum Outfitters have sizing guides: link & link.

Hope this helped!

AFAIK only double incision and keyhole are performed in Denmark. During my communication with surgeons at Riget and at Odense Universitetshospital, only those two procedures were mentioned -- and once they'd measured my breasts, only double incision was offered. Here is Rigets information on top surgery.

Unfortunately I'm fairly sure that if you want another procedure, you'll have to go abroad and pay out of pocket. The public surgeons are only trained in a certain set of procedures so they tend to be slow to adopt new methods and private clinics still aren't allowed to provide gender affirming care.

It's worth noting that some people do regain a significant amount of sensation a while after double incision. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any numbers. Personally one of my nipples has more sensation than the other, which I suspect is due to some factors during the healing process. It is true that it's not at all the same as prior to surgery, although I do think it varies a lot.

-mod siggi

Mit forløb hos CKI København startede med en række samtaler med en af deres behandlere, hvor hun spurgte ind til mit liv, min dysfori, hvordan jeg generelt havde det og hvilke behandling jeg var interesseret i af modtage. I mit tilfælde var det T og top operation.

Jeg kan ikke huske hvor mange samtaler der præcist var tale om, men efter disse samtaler blev min sag taget op i plenum, altså til et møde de forskellige faggrupper på CKI har med hinanden regelmæssigt, hvor de diskutere forskellige patienter og hvorvidt de mener man skal modtage den behandling, man har bedt om.

Dette er ofte hvor der forekommer en del ventetid, da de der fællesmøder enten ikke bliver hodlt så ofte eller de bare har så mange patienter at komme igennem, at det kan tage en del tid.

Jeg fik lov til at komme på T og til at komme på ventelisten til top operation. Det er min opfattelse at hvis de giver en lov til T giver de også en lov til top operation. Det er den samme vurdering der ligger bag begge dele så vidt jeg ved (selvfølgelig medmindre der ligger noge helbredsmæssigt i vejen). Jeg vil derfor ikke tro din ven skal være ekstra bekymret ift at få lov til top operation.

Selvom din ven har fået T gel i Tyskland, vil han nok stadig skulle igennem samme proces som mig, da de danske myndigheder foretrækker at lave deres egen vurdering. Dog vil jeg dog gætte på, at det kommer til at forbedre hans chancer.

Det skal dog også siges, at der er enorm stor forskel på behandlerne på CKI i København. Jeg var heldig at få en af de nyere behandlere, men jeg hører stadig skrækhistorier om nogle af dem fra den gamle skole, som stadig arbejder der. De historier jeg hører i dag kommer dog stortset alle sammen fra transkvinder. Jeg tør ikke fortolke for meget på det, men det er dog mit gæt, at de i dag er mindre stride over for transmænd sammenlignet med transkvinder.

Jeg har dog nogle diagnoser, som jeg tror hos andre behandlere end hende jeg havde, ville have spændt ben for mig. Min behandler nævnte autisme som den eneste diagnose, der ville være relevant, fordi CKI har en mærkelig idé om hvad autisme og specialinteresser er. Hvis din ven er autist eller har mistanke om at være det, ville jeg derfor foreslå at holde lav profil med det.

Hvis der er tale om CKI Aalborg skulle de være betydeligt bedre generelt, da den afdeling er åbnet for nogle år tilbage og altså ikke har nogle af de gamle tudser man finder på CKI København.

Ift top operation var jeg til en forsamtale på Riget og skulle så derefter selv sørger for at benytte det frie sygehusvalg, til at komme på venteliste i Odense i stedet for. Riget laver meget sjældent top operationer, mens ventetiden ved Odense Universitetshospital fra jeg kom på listen til jeg blev opereret vist var omkring halvandet år. Man kan også vælge Aalborg og måske et tredje stede, jeg lagde bare vægt på at Odense var tættere på hvor jeg boede.

Jeg har desværre ret svært ved at huske den præcise ventetid jeg havde i det tidlige forløb, men mener den overordneede tidshorisont er noget i den her stil:

Henvendelse til CKI sent i 2017 eller tidligt i 2018

Samtaler og godkendelse i løbet af 2018

Medicinske undersøgelser Marts 2019

HRT startet September 2019

Top operation November 2021

Tænker det meget vel kan være, at din ven kan få tiden cuttet lidt ned ved f.eks. ikke at skulle undersøges medicinsk forud for T, da han allerede er blevet undersøgt for det i Tyskland, men der sgu meget forhippede på "forsigtighedsprincippet" så hvem ved.

Det skal også siges, at jeg i første omgang var tilknyttet sexologisk klinik, inden CKI København blev oprettet i 2019 og der forekom noget rod fra deres side, der betød jeg mistede en tid og altså måtte vente ydeerligere 3 måneder eller noget i den stil.

Generelt er de tider man får hos dem ikke til at lave om på og der er lang tid i mellem dem.

Håber det hjælper! Hvis din ven gerne vil snakke med nogen om det personligt, har LGBT Danmark vejledning til rådighed.

Reportedly Reformklinniken in Malmö is willing to do top surgery without getting a note from a psychiatrist so they might be worth looking into.

The recommendation for private top surgery for Danes used to be at St. Josef Hospital in Troisdorf, Nothern Germany, but I don't know if that's up to date and I believe they do ask for a note from a psychiatrist.

These are two options close by, but I don't know if it being close by is a priority for you. It's difficult to say what the "best" private surgeon is for you without knowing more. That said, if any followers feel they can recommend a good surgeon, I encourage you all to do so in the notes!

If I were you, anon, I'd also contact the Funen LGBT org Lamda for advice more specific to your situation/where it's easier for you to have a dialogue about it:

Rådgivningen har åbnet hver mandag kl. 19:00 – 21:00

Du kan chatte med os ved at bruge chatfunktionen i højre hjørne, her på siden.

Du kan møde personligt op hos vores frivillige rådgiver i Lambdas lokaler. Indgangen til lokalerne er til venstre for Lambdas bar, gennem opgangen i Brogade 3. Der står Lambda på dørtelefonen og det er hér vi lukker dig ind.

Du kan også ringe til rådgivningen på telefon 32 12 62 45

Alle henvendelser behandles selvfølgelig anonymt.

If you want to do it digitally anyway, LGBT+ Danmark is another option.

You can also check out the links under Region Syddanmark here.

Hi :) Generally, you can use your name anywhere you don't have to confirm your identity with an ID card. So when ordering online you can fill your profile with any name, but the shipping address should contain the name that's on your ID if you're using the Polish Post (chances are you'll have to pick the item yourself and they check your ID). Couriers never check the name as long as someone's home to pick up the parcel and for InPost (paczkomaty) you can use any name. Although some couriers never show up with a parcel, just a note that they missed you and you have to pick up the parcel yourself. If a library is asking for your ID to sign up, I think they'll want your legal name, but maybe it's a case-to-case situation and some libraries may be able to put down your name - not the one from ID. If you're looking for a job you can put your name in CV - deadname will be needed only for signing the contract.

Hi, it's absolutely possible! Most clinics will still want an official diagnosis. Even in Poland we have at least three clinics that do top surgery without requiring patients to be on HRT. It might be the cheapest here, but with varying results.

Followers, please let us know about other countries where you can have top surgery without being on HRT.

the ones I've found so far are iguanatrend and binderme, are these any good?

Hi, the only Polish producent of binders is iguanatrend - binderme gets their binders from iguana. They're generally recommended. I've checked https://www.trans-missie.com/en/ (Amsterdam based) but the shipping to Poland is crazy expensive. I used to buy my binders from gc2b (US). Gc2b and Spectrum outfitters (UK) are in the same price range (including shipping).