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How the hell are all the "play something other than dnd" people finding people to play these games with, especially irl? I have a collection of various indie ttrpgs but finding someone even interested in playing something other than 5e is pulling teeth (and i don't even mind 5e all that much, would just like to explore new systems)
Getting someone to play anything else but D&D5e is usually like pulling teeth yeah, and especially IRL you might be out of luck if you want it to be anything other than a grueling battle of attrition, depending on the pool of people you have access to at least.
I can invite you to the A.N.I.M. TTRPG Book Club where the whole point is to play things that are not D&D5e, but as for how to convince your friends to play other games, I might have a strategy I can offer. Granted, pure logic arguments are not often likely to have immediate effect if these were people you already tried and failed to convince, but that doesn’t mean they won’t work ever. Changing someone’s mind takes a lot of time, sometimes exponentially more time if they don’t know what they’re talking about (like talking TTRPGs with someone who has only played one single TTRPG).
The Two-Pronged Approach to D&D5e Extraction
Which one of these “prongs” should come first is something you’ll have to figure out for yourself based on the friend.
There is also a little mini-spike at the end you could also try but I’m assuming that if you have to come to me with this message that that already hasn’t worked.
The “Appeal to Fun” Prong
Ask them what they like about playing D&D5e. People who stubbornly only play D&D5e will usually have one or more of the following answers, paraphrased.
“I like that you can play a character and be anyone you want and tell a story in a fantasy world.”
As anyone who has played more than one TTRPG will tell you, this describes almost every TTRPG in existence.
Tell them playing a character and playing a game resulting in a story is not something unique to D&D5e, it is the case for just about every TTRPG and certainly the one you’re trying to get them to play.
In fact, different TTRPGs support kinds of characters and stories that D&D5e doesn’t.
The idea that different TTRPGs (and D&D5e as well) has a lot of say over what type of character and story they produce and it is best to make characters tailored to the setting rather than just drop a blorbo in with no consideration for the situations the rules support might be a little bit advanced for them right now but you should try to get there gradually if you want to make sure they have a good time playing other TTRPGs.
“I like that you can problem-solve in creative ways that are not constrained by the limitations of programming like a video game.”
Same answer as above, just about all TTRPGs are like this.
“I like that it is a social activity you can do with friends.”
Same answer is above, just about all TTRPGs are like this.
“I like the tactical combat and character building.”
This is the first one that is not completely universal to all TTRPGs, and something D&D5e actually focuses very hard on. Ordinarily I would say that Pathfinder does the same thing just a little better, but it is absolutely imperative that a stubborn D&D5e holdout not play Pathfinder as their second ever TTRPG.
The fact that Pathfinder is just a tuned up version of modern D&D will often teach people that all TTRPGs are basically the same. They’ll just get stuck in Pathfinder the same way they were stuck in D&D5e and it'll be considerably harder to pull them out the second time.
I’d really strongly suggest a game that has tactical combat to some degree or another but in a very different way and/or setting.
Not all of these are “indie,” nor do they all have a significant focus on tactical combat, but my suggestions off the top of my head are:
Call of Cthulhu
Delta Green
Eureka: Investigative Urban Fantasy (we made this one)
Mothership
Lancer
“I like that it’s a game that is not just combat.”
You and I know that D&D5e actually is almost exclusively just combat because the rules, character abilities, and the situations the combination of these things incentivize are almost entirely consisting of combat, but don’t say this right away, you’ll lose them, because if they’re saying this then they’re probably having a D&D5e experience that at least partially ignoring/avoiding the rules in favor of, like, running a pizza shop or something and don’t realize that this is an at-best inefficient use of a game with such a heavy focus on combat.
What you tell them instead is that many TTRPGs are not just combat and in fact many even have no combat at all or otherwise primarily support scenes/stories/adventures with minimal combat.
I’d recommend off the top of my head:
Delta Green
Eureka: Investigative Urban Fantasy
Silk & Dagger: A Sensible Drow RPG (we also made this one)
Burning Wheel (this one might be a little scary for them actually but I’m still mentioning it)
Monster Hearts
Apocalypse World
HOWEVER, before you make the above argument, make sure you ask them some questions about what exactly they mean by “combat.” Many people, especially people who only play D&D5e, say “combat” not to mean “the PCs engage in physical violence” but to mean “any situation where gameplay directly intersects with any rules at all,” and consider the opposite to be “roleplay,” meaning (to them) “the parts of the gameplay that do not directly intersect with the rules." They learn this false dichotomy because “combat” AKA violence is the main time the rules intersect with gameplay in a combat-focused game like D&D5e and that’s all they know.
If by “combat” they mean “the PCs engage in physical violence,” go with the above argument. If by “combat” they mean “any time the rules directly intersect with gameplay and they gotta start rolling dice,” well, this is a problem and it’s going to often affect their ability to appreciate, well, almost any game, but immediately trying to tell them them engaging with the rules is roleplay will usually lose them.
There’s a few ways to approach this problem while trying to get them to play other games with you. The first is well, again the fact “there are some times where the gameplay directly intersects with rules and you gotta make a bunch of dice rolls but other times where the PCs’ actions do not directly intersect with rules and you don’t roll dice” describes 99% of all TTRPGs.
The other thing is to ask them if they like “combat” or if they actively dislike and dread that part of the game. If they say they like “combat,” you're golden, return to the beginning of this argument.
If they say they don’t like “combat” - well, they probably would like rules-adjudicated gameplay that has rules that adjudicate situations they actually enjoy playing through, in which case return to the top of this section, but that is also just as likely to lose them. If you think it will lose them, I suggest trying to get them into a PbtA game.
I don’t like them myself, and (good) PbtA games are pretty rules-adjudicated in their own way, but in such a way that doesn’t usually feel like it is to the kind of people who have been conditioned by D&D5e to hate rules.
I’d recommend off the top of my head:
Apocalypse World
Monster Hearts
Dungeon Bitches
Monster of the Week
The “Why Not Play Something Else?” Prong
Ask them why they don’t want to play any other TTRPG than D&D5e. They will usually have one of the following answers.
“I can’t afford it.”
D&D5e is actually a uniquely expensive game, but they wouldn’t know that if it’s the only one they've bought into (and that’s one of the reasons WotC wants to keep it like this). Show them that the vast majority of non-D&D5e TTRPGs are less than half the price of D&D5e, and many are even completely free. Those that aren’t free, if they literally can’t afford it, they can usually be easily pirated although I strongly urge you to support TTRPG creators financially whenever possible.
“I don’t want to/have time to learn a whole new game.”
D&D5e is actually a particularly complicated and difficult-to-learn game compared to most others, but they wouldn’t know that if it’s the only one they've played. Whatever you’re trying to get them to play, it will take less time and effort to learn than D&D5e unless it’s, like, Shadowrun or something. I wouldn’t recommend starting them out with anything seriously sparse on rules, though, as this can often cause people to flounder a bit. Try something with a mid level of complexity and a clearly written rulebook.
“D&D5e can already be adapted to anything.”
This is obviously wrong but just saying “nuh-uh” isn't going to cut it unfortunately. I don’t know if I have the time right now to write out an argument against this particularly snarled piece or D&D5e marketing propaganda, but just about any of the “game design is real” type of arguments i or others in the same circles have posted over the years should at least be a start.
“I am attached to the specific setting/characters/campaign my D&D5e group is already playing.”
The great news is that because of the above arguments about other TTRPGs not being designed to consume your entire life and bank account, they don’t have to completely abandon D&D5e or their campaign to try out a few other games! You can play a variety of TTRPGs, you don’t have to stick to just one forever. That would be like only watching one movie or only reading one book.
“I just don’t want to.”
This is what you’ll usually arrive at once you have exhausted all of the above arguments, the admission that they are just refusing to step outside their comfort zone. At least they are finally being honest with you. This is when you hit them with the friendship spike.
The Friendship Spike
You tell them you’re their friend, you really want to play a particular game with them because you think you’d enjoy it and think they might enjoy it too. You would really appreciate it if they would be willing to step outside their comfort zone and approach this activity that their friend wants to do with them with an open mind. If this doesn’t work then, like, I dunno show them a few episodes of a cartoon for babies that has lessons about sharing and sometimes letting other people pick the activities.
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5 hour long video essay detailing the one-sided grudge that minor league gaming streamer Gregory Penis (known for starting his streams by saying "What's up Penis nation,") held on Yvette because he felt that Yvette was snubbing him by refusing to collab with him
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Shadow the Hedgehog: Interesting. It's as if you've been wearing limiters this whole time and you realizing you wanted to live as a woman was what broke the limiters.
Me: Yeah, it's a lot like that.
Shadow the Hedgehog: Hmmm... tell me about this "estrogen."
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We had to move the changelog for the main Eureka rulebook out of the main document and into its own separate document for reasons. You can s
Sorry this is a bit late, I’m supposed to be on vacation.
The biggest thing in this update for Eureka is that we have finished editing and revising the Witch Trait, though we are not strictly done with the Witch Trait. We plan to add a few more elements to it in the next work session that will flesh it out some more, give it some more unique character, and give it more options like the other Monster Traits.
Also, we had to remove the changelog from the main Eureka rulebook document and put it in a separate document. This separate document also includes some of our working notes as a bonus peak at what we’re working on.
The full changelog will still also be posted below in this post.
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If you were on the fence about subscribing then now would be a good time.
Full changelog below
CHANGELOG June 13th 2026
WHOLE BOOK
Copy-editing Progress: Thoroughly copy-edited up to p. 625.
Made a lot of art smaller - this has resulted in some snoops looking a little crunchy with the lines aliasing a little, but that will be fixed in the final release - we just need to convert them all to vectors.
Apparently we hit the character limit for our word processing software, which is something none of us even knew existed. This isn’t the end of the world, we freed up about 30,000 more characters by changing every instance of [off to the side in the final formatting] to [sidebar].
CHAPTER TWO
Fixed that there was no Blood/Gore fear listed for one of the example Tiers of Fears.
Added sidebar in Chapter 2 saying not to share false character sheets or otherwise lie about what is on your investigator’s character sheet.
CHAPTER THREE
Changed Splash Explosives to work with the new (old, but we somehow forgot to freaking put them in in their own section until now) fire damage rules.
CHAPTER FOUR
Better clarified Reactions.
Made “Seizing the Initiative” (the thing where a character who is being attacked as the first attack of an instance of combat can make a Full Success on a Reflexes roll to instead take a turn before their attacker) into a proper keyword and its own heading. Also clarified that it is not a Reaction.
Better clarified Speed and when and why it is calculated.
Added Fire, Hazardous Chemicals, and Damage Over Time to Irregular Forms of Damage, which we somehow did not have in there until now.
CHAPTER SIX
Started working on the Witch Trait.
Changed the name from Fairytale Witch to just Witch.
Better codified Curses.
General cleanup and editing.
Changed Simple Curse to Hex.
Better clarified exactly how curses work.
Multiple witches can participate in casting a curse.
There is now a possibility of a witch curse backfiring on the witch.
Added a roll to identify the curse and certain ‘signatures’ when defending against a curse being cast on the witch.
Altered the default duration of a witch’s curse and how many days they can change it by.
Added a sidebar clarifying that the Curse of Death is not a “natural” death.
Added Curse of Liquification for witches. Fairies do not have access to this curse.
Added donkeys and hares to the options for Curse of Transformation for witches.
Placing a curse on an object can also backfire.
Added Potion of Undoing to Witch Trait. This is exactly the same as the existing rules for curing a curse/effect by making that same potion + a Table 3 Ingredient except we reworded it to make it its own thing for rules clarity.
A Potion of Undoing Petrification can actually now work, it just has to be gotten into the statue’s stomach somehow.
Added Curse of Vermin for Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Insomnia to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Starvation to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Impotence and Infertility to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Faeriedae’s Curse to the Fairy Trait (not the Witch Trait).
Better clarified how mirrors work with the Witch Trait’s special version of the Remote Viewing Mage Power.
Potion ingredients now get locked in per adventure
Witches and fairies can now fine-tine the duration of curses down to number of Ticks not just days.
Potions can now be made into vapors or aerosols
Potions can be made to have multiple doses.
Potions can be bought with WP with multiple alterations.
Removed duration limit on invisibility potion.
Fixed a typo in the Juice that Makes You Explode
Changed the Juice that Makes You Explode to Potion that Makes You Explode to make it slightly less meme-y.
Fixed a few typos in the wolfman trait.
Clarified that witch potions are “safe” to consume.
Added potion of liquifaction.
Added potion of clarity.
Added potion of empowerment.
Reordered the list/table of potions.
Witches can spend 2 Eureka! Points to use two Mage Powers at once for a single Scene.
Better clarified mirrors regarding characters with the Witch Trait using Remote Viewing.
Completely rewrote the flying vehicle rules.
Finished editing the Witch Trait but it is not DONE, we still have the Origins and Traditions ideas we wanted to add to it left to do.
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Eureka: Investigative Urban Fantasy August 13th 2026 Major Public Update
A TTRPG for deep character roleplay, realistic combat, player deduction, and secret monster antics!
This is an absolutely massive update to the public available itchio version of the game that is coming way too long after the last update considering especially I had wanted to start doing more frequent public updates.
This is possibly our largest update ever and there are so many improvements that I’m going to be hard-pressed to figure out which ones to highlight in this post.
Due to issues with our word processor, we had to move some things, including the changelog, to separate documents. You can download them at the same place you download the rulebook they’re just separate documents now.
Please, if you can afford to do so, pay at least a few dollars when you download the latest version of the rulebook. As an independent TTRPG studio we don’t make a lot of money in the first place but it’s been especially dire the past year or so and we’re really counting on this update to get us some attention and income.
Since there’s so much to cover I’m gonna try to pick three things from each chapter of the rulebook to highlight. You can find the full unabridged changelog under the Read More at the end of this post.
CHAPTER ONE
1: Better clarified the Ticking Clock mechanics, again. This time it was to clarify that it isn’t meant to create a timeline so much as it is meant to simplify time into a consumable resource.
2: Added a quote that really resonated with me to the Foreword. I felt this quote was very relevant to a lot of Eureka’s theming. “El con alas lleva al sin alas, y el sin alas bendice al con alas.” - Megalobox 2: Nomad.
3: The What You Need To Read section is now actually functional! If you’re just starting out and have limited time to read the entire rulebook, check this section for a breakdown of what the most important sections are.
CHAPTER TWO
1: We better codified how to determine when an Interpersonal Skill roll is needed in a conversation, based on the way the investigator is dressed, looks, and is acting. This means those things do make a difference!
2: Investigators can be roommates with each other now!
3: It is now generally easier for investigators to get food due to a few small updates here.
CHAPTER THREE
1: Rewrote how flashbangs work even though I don’t think I have ever seen these used it was still a thing that really needed to be written better.
2: We updates Splash Explosions.
3: Better clarified armor.
CHAPTER FOUR
1: Consolidated the firearm attack penalties all into one place so that it’s much easier to reference now.
2: Added explicit rules about how characters can “hold their turn” and also better clarified Reactions for like the fifth time. Reactions are something kinda hard to articulate but hopefully this time the rules text explains it well enough.
3: Overall much better balanced some stuff especially in regards to Knock-out Blow which is an ability that has given us constant trouble when trying to make it not be the very best option in every situation.
CHAPTER FIVE
1: There’s only one change here and it’s that there’s a new adventure module: A Horror New To This World. (Link)
CHAPTER SIX
1: One I am personally really excited about is how we finally made a distinction in the mechanics themselves for how damage reduction works differently for vampires than it does for wolfmen. Vampires now start taking Injury Rolls earlier in their HP track to represent how they aren’t actually any more durable than a normal person. This means that unique Grievous Wounds like decapitations and things like that are able to actually come into play more often.
2: The Witch Trait has been completely overhauled to include a ton of optional features for different origins of where the witch learned her magic and what other witches she has associated with. Each gives slightly different True Natures and different bonuses and penalties to certain things witches can do. Witches also optionally have “agendas” which are additional goals set for them usually by the other witches they know. Completing these gains them Eureka! Points. They are randomly rolled, and the rulebook explicitly gives the Narrator a lot of leeway for contextualizing them within the adventure module being played. The Witch Trait also has a lot of new curses and potions.
3: The Mage Powers have also been totally overhauled with most of them getting a complete rewrite for better codification as well as additional Eureka! Point abilities.
Full changelog below including a lot of stuff I didn’t mention before!
WHOLE BOOK
Copy-editing Progress: Thoroughly copy-edited up to p. 636.
Made a lot of art smaller - this has resulted in some snoops looking a little crunchy with the lines aliasing a little, but that will be fixed in the final release - we just need to convert them all to vectors.
Apparently we hit the character limit for our word processing software, which is something none of us even knew existed. This isn’t the end of the world, we freed up about 30,000 more characters by changing every instance of [off to the side in the final formatting] to [sidebar].
Tightened the formatting on like 99% of sidebars.
Replaced most but not all instances of the word “supernatural” with the word “paranormal” where appropriate. Also at the same time fixed a bunch of small things related to this like making the explanation of the Lovecraft Protagonist Trait say “Magic” instead of “Witchcraft.”
Temporarily removed the headings for examples of play because they aren’t doing anything.
CHAPTER ONE
Better clarified that the Ticking Clock Ticks are not meant to enforce an exact timeline of investigator actions but rather to act as a resource that limits the amount of things they can do within a single day.
Added a quote to the Foreword. Technically the Foreword comes before Chapter One but I am putting this changelog note here anyway.
Added Megalobox to the inspiration list.
Finally redid the whole What Do You Need to Read section, it is no-longer a work-in-progress, at least not any more so than any of the rest of the book.
Added The Love Witch and Kathy Rain 1 & 2 to the inspirations section.
CHAPTER TWO
Better clarified Technology skill
Added a note under Interpersonal Skills that essentially says that Interpersonal Rolls will be required more often if the NPCs that the investigator is talking to thinks that the investigator dresses or acts “like a weirdo.” This was essentially already how it worked in practice, but it is good to codify these things rather than letting certain best-practices for playing the game exist only in oral tradition. It also better helps provide an actual mechanical reason why, say, a vampire might not wear a full sunlight-mitigating outfit 24/7, besides that character just enjoying having more variety in their wardrobe - which would be something we would also not want to harshly penalize as a pure downside with no tradeoffs. These are real people after all, not just mystery-solving automatons.
Added “Roommates” heading/rule which codifies that multiple investigators can live in the same Home and how to handle that with WP.
Better clarified Interpersonal Rolls.
Basically rewrote the way we explain dialogue “branches” and how to do Interpersonal rolls. The rules are essentially the same, but the instructions are way more clear now.
Updated Interpersonal Consequences to say that Interpersonal rolls resulting in “branches” in a conversation should not have Tick cost as a consequence, though that does not mean that Ticks and Interpersonal rolls should NEVER meet.
Fixed that there was no Blood/Gore fear listed for one of the example Tiers of Fears.
Added sidebar in Chapter 2 saying not to share false character sheets or otherwise lie about what is on your investigator’s character sheet.
Added a comma to better clarify the Bite-sized Trait.
Added Private Investigator License to the Item List under Miscellaneous.
Moved a piece of info that was in a sidebar to be in the body text because it was too important and too easily missable to be in a sidebar. This piece of information was that sometimes, when it makes sense, a character can afford an item even on a Failed Wealth roll, but this imposes a Financial Stress Composure roll with an exacerbating factor.
Bolded the part that mentions that Wealth rolls to buy food get a +2 Contextual bonus.
Changed the Wealth roll for getting food at home so that the Property Modifier of a home only applies if that home would not logically be stocked with food, such as a hotel.
Quick Draw can apply when attempting to make Reactions. Also better clarified Quick Draw in general.
Made Motor Scooters have higher Acceleration.
Gave Motor Scooters a +1 Driving bonus for maneuverability.
CHAPTER THREE
Changed Splash Explosives to work with the new (old, but we somehow forgot to freaking put them in in their own section until now) fire damage rules.
Added a temporary emergency sidebar to clarify how body armor and helmets both count as “armor.”
Clarified that flashbangs do not make the character literally blind.
Removed Grievous Wounds from flashbang effects.
Made it so that the attack bonus towards characters who are flashbanged is just for melee attacks not all attacks.
CHAPTER FOUR
Clarified that you round down for number of feet fallen when calculating falling damage.
Added a -1 penalty to use of Athletics for Basic Unarmed Melee Attacks, Knock-out Blows, and Grabs.
Increased the damage that Vehicle Attacks do to targets large enough to have 9 HP, and cause an Injury roll no matter what to targets large enough to have 9 HP.
Copied most of the range penalties section from chapter 3 into “Firearm Attack Penalties” to collect those penalties in the same place.
Better clarified Reactions.
Made “Seizing the Initiative” (the thing where a character who is being attacked as the first attack of an instance of combat can make a Full Success on a Reflexes roll to instead take a turn before their attacker) into a proper keyword and its own heading. Also clarified that it is not a Reaction.
Better clarified Speed and when and why it is calculated.
Added Fire, Hazardous Chemicals, and Damage Over Time to Irregular Forms of Damage, which we somehow did not have in there until now.
Better clarified Reactions even more.
Added explicit rules for characters “holding their Turns” in combat. I thought we already had that but I guess it’s just one of those things that is so engrained that you take it for granted in any turn-based TTRPG.
Better mechanicized Disarms.
Better clarified weapon equipping in combat.
Better clarified Speed and how to handle it when something affects a character’s Speed mid-fight/chase.
A Partial Success on a Knock-out Blow now allows for a Counter-Attack as well as doing half damage.
CHAPTER FIVE
Added A Horror New to This World to the Divergent Tier of the module list in Chapter 5.
CHAPTER SIX
Added an extra -1 penalty to superhuman strength users when using Athletics for basic unarmed melee attacks, Knock-Out Blows, Shoves and Grabs.
Finally started copy-editing Chapter 6 again!
Rephrased introduction to Wolfman Trait to make it more clear.
Rephrased, clarified, and changed several things under the Transformation section of Wolfman Trait, including changing different transformations to take a variable amount of time, that wolfmen can only change to and from human form (unless stated otherwise), and codified a wolfman attempting to break out of confined spaces by transforming.
Worsened the Sunlight penalty for the Vampire Trait to -9 instead of -7, meaning it will be much more difficult for vampires to escape these penalties.
Increased the Sunlight Composure Roll bonus from +7 to +9 for the Vampire Trait.
Slightly better codified “heavy shade” for the Vampire Trait.
Clarified that being inside a car will mean “heavy shade” and “sunlight filtered by a window” for the Vampire Trait.
Better clarified how sunlight coming in through a window should affect a vampire.
Added a tiny mechanic for deciding whether the day is rainy/overcast or not when the module doesn’t specify, for the benefit of vampires and the sunlight penalties.
The normal human form of the Wolfman Trait no-longer causes The Creeps.
Removed the note that wolfman claws require a steel file.
Took away Scent Tracking from the Anime Wolfgirl and then gave it back.
Adjusted Scent Tracking so that it has a -3 penalty for characters that do not have a snout.
Fixed typos in Feral Anime Wolfgirl form.
Better clarified Scent Tracking.
Changed “Scent Tracking” heading in Gorgon Trait to “Jacobson’s Organ,” as well as giving them a +1 Base bonus to Senses rolls involving smell, and an additional +4 if they continually stick out their tongue to taste the air. Also sticking out their tongue like this exempts them from the penalty for not having a snout.
Reduced Feral Anime Wolfgirl Athletics bonus to +2 instead of +3.
Reduced Feral Anime Wolfgirl Senses bonus to Smell to +2.
Human form, Anime Wolfgirl, and Feral Anime Wolfgirl in the Wolfman Trait are no-longer especially vulnerable to irritant weapons.
Made Feral Anime Wolfgirl have 5 HP instead of 9 HP.
Clarified that a wolf”man” does not necessarily have to be male and a wolfman with the Anime Wolf”girl” does not have to be female.
Vampire Bat-like Beast Manifestation now costs 1 Eureka! Point to initiate instead of not costing a Eureka! Point.
Made it so that different Wolfman forms take different numbers of Actions to transform into, which can be sped up by spending a Eureka! Point.
Redescribed the Feral Anime Wolfgirl form.
Redescribed the Buff Anthroform form.
Better clarified the biting grabs for the Vampire Trait’s Wolf and Bat-like Beast manifestations.
Better clarified the biting grabs of the Buff Anthroform, Lupine Anthroform, and Monstrous Anthroform in the Wolfman Trait.
Added tables to Alternate Forms and HP that show all the conversions.
Wrote that the Anime Wolfgirl and Feral Anime Wolfgirl forms can be transformed into and out of by other wolf forms.
Better clarified both the Bat-like Beast and Monstrous Anthroform swallowing victims whole.
Adjusted the amount of damage it causes for a wolfman to transform after eating a person, and also better clarified it.
Better clarified miscellaneous things in Wolfman Trait.
Ordinary Wolf for Wolfman Trait and Wolf Manifestation for Vampire Trait can now also do Shoves.
Better clarified Superhuman Strength and how it interacts with giant monsters.
Adjusted the Vehicle Attack Modifier for Bat-like Beast.
Adjusted the Vehicle Attack Modifier for Even Bigger Wolf, Monstrous Anthroform, and Biggest Baddest Wolf
Changed the Powers Composure roll modifiers for Wolfman Transformations to be harsher.
Removed Scent Tracking heading from Wolfman Trait (they still have Scent Tracking but the rules text about it is in the form descriptions themselves).
Wolfmen now get +2 Investigation Points instead of +1 when doing Investigative rolls involving smell.
Included that a veterinary degree is not necessary to operate on a Feral Anime Wolfgirl.
Added a -1 penalty to any Medicine roll to any Medicine roll that involves cutting or stitching a wolfman’s flesh in any form.
Wolfmen can no-longer re-attach severed body parts, but they are now more resistant to getting Grievous Wounds in the first place.
Removed the unique deadly Wolfman Grievous Wounds because of the above entry.
Moved the unique Vampire Grievous Wounds up into the Vampire Trait itself and also gave them a new “weakness” that represents how their bodies are not actually tougher than normal people’s bodies. They can now start taking Grievous Wounds much “earlier” in their HP tracks, which would be after the same amount of incoming damage (before reduction by damage reduction) that would cause an Injury Roll to a normal person. Also changed the effect of some of the unique Vampire Grievous Wounds.
Changed the way that the Wolfman healing Eureka! Point ability works.
Changed how wolfman reviving works.
Fixed a typo in Superhuman Strength, and also clarified the damage-doubling effects of it.
Reworded some stuff in Wolfman True Nature.
Gave option to bite with Superficial Damage when wolfman has urge to bite; still makes the Composure roll but with Comforting Factor.
Redid how it is determined which form a wolfman rampages in, again.
Redid what Eureka! Point abilities wolfmen have for resisting their rampages. There are many more options now.
Gave rampaging wolfmen different Morale values based on their forms.
Wolfmen rampage until sunrise (or full Composure) instead of for 20 Ticks.
Added a table for guidance to the Narrator about how to handle wolfman rampages.
Since “Fully Incapacitated” is no-longer a thing, instead of being “Fully Incapacitated” being something that can end a wolfman rampage, going unconscious replaces it.
Better/fully codified “Snapping Out of It.”
Codified that wolfmen may have different levels of recollection of their rampages, which is chosen at character creation. There are tradeoffs to each possibility.
After snapping out of a rampage, wolfmen will not rampage again until at least 24 hours later even if they go back to 0 Composure.
Changed Full Moon heading to Moonstruck and moved it to the Wolfman Trait’s Weakness instead of True Nature.
Lots of general cleanup of wording.
Better codified wolfsbane poison.
Wolfmen in human form no longer have reflective eyes.
Slightly changed how Composure rolls for moonlight are done.
Started working on the Witch Trait.
Changed the name from Fairytale Witch to just Witch.
Better codified Curses.
General cleanup and editing.
Changed Simple Curse to Hex.
Better clarified exactly how curses work.
Multiple witches can participate in casting a curse.
There is now a possibility of a witch curse backfiring on the witch.
Added a roll to identify the curse and certain ‘signatures’ when defending against a curse being cast on the witch.
Altered the default duration of a witch’s curse and how many days they can change it by.
Added a sidebar clarifying that the Curse of Death is not a “natural” death.
Added Curse of Liquification for witches. Fairies do not have access to this curse.
Added donkeys and hares to the options for Curse of Transformation for witches.
Placing a curse on an object can also backfire.
Added Potion of Undoing to Witch Trait. This is exactly the same as the existing rules for curing a curse/effect by making that same potion + a Table 3 Ingredient except we reworded it to make it its own thing for rules clarity.
A Potion of Undoing Petrification can actually now work, it just has to be gotten into the statue’s stomach somehow.
Added Curse of Vermin for Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Insomnia to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Starvation to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Curse of Impotence and Infertility to Witch Trait. Fairies do not have the ability to do this curse.
Added Faeriedae’s Curse to the Fairy Trait (not the Witch Trait).
Better clarified how mirrors work with the Witch Trait’s special version of the Remote Viewing Mage Power.
Potion ingredients now get locked in per adventure
Witches and fairies can now fine-tine the duration of curses down to number of Ticks not just days.
Potions can now be made into vapors or aerosols
Potions can be made to have multiple doses.
Potions can be bought with WP with multiple alterations.
Removed duration limit on invisibility potion.
Fixed a typo in the Juice that Makes You Explode
Changed the Juice that Makes You Explode to Potion that Makes You Explode to make it slightly less meme-y.
Fixed a few typos in the wolfman trait.
Clarified that witch potions are “safe” to consume.
Added potion of liquifaction.
Added potion of clarity.
Added potion of empowerment.
Reordered the list/table of potions.
Witches can spend 2 Eureka! Points to use two Mage Powers at once for a single Scene.
Better clarified mirrors regarding characters with the Witch Trait using Remote Viewing.
Completely rewrote the flying vehicle rules.
Finished editing the Witch Trait but it is not DONE, we still have the Origins and Traditions ideas we wanted to add to it left to do.
Magical jewelry now costs 3WP for witches.
Curses slightly more likely to backfire for witches.
Potion of potency and fertility can be used as a cure to the curse of impotency.
Added witch hats and tophats as casting implements for witches.
Moved the mention of TFB-specific Grievous Wounds to the TFB Trait itself instead of being in Unkillable Monsters and Grievous Wounds.
Removed the Unkillable Monsters and Grievous Wounds section from the rulebook since everything that would have been there is either out of date completely or has been moved to the relevant Traits.
Added the ability for witches to use enchanted hats to store things. See “Pulling Rabbits Out of a Hat.”
Removed the separate mostly identical listing for the Android (Metal) and Clockwork (Metal) variants of the Living Doll Trait and incorporated the only differences into being options for the default versions of those rules.
Added familiars for witches.
Temporarily cut “Why Do Monsters Care?” Heading
Moved the “Monster vs Monster” section to its own “FAQ” document to be downloaded separately.
Added Origins and Traditions for the Witch Trait. Origins are how a witch came to learn witchcraft, and Traditions represent the focus of their study as well as their outlook on the practice. When creating a character with the Witch Trait the player chooses one Origin and one Tradition for their witch. There are four Origins and five Traditions to choose from, each with their own unique mechanical benefits and drawbacks.
Added a small note in Chapter 6 directing people to look at the separate Monster vs Monster FAQ document because it might answer their questions about usual interactions between paranormal powers.
Made cursed items purchasable with WP for witches.
Made purchasing potions with WP more expensive.
Wrote a whole bunch of new stuff for the Witch Trait, finally incorporating Agendas into the Witch Trait. Agendas represent additional objectives imposed on the witch with significant rewards for completing them. Witches do not have to have Agendas, but those that do not will miss out on certain benefits of their community.
Started fixing up the Mage Trait. We are jumping from the Witch Trait to the Mage Trait because the Mage Powers interact heavily with the Fairy Trait, the Changeling Trait, and the Witch Trait which we have already edited/overhauled and so we feel to fully finish and edit these three Traits it would be best to hit all the Mage Powers now. The majority of the Mage Powers have not been touched by editing, like, at all in over two years so they really really need it.
Edited/overhauled the Glamour Mage Power. It now has a 1 Eureka! Point option to make the Base bonuses it provides into Contextual bonuses. Also made studying a person to copy them exactly be a Social Cues roll similar to how it works for the TFB Trait.
Temporarily moved the Hunting Tables to a separate document than the main rulebook. They are still part of the game; they are just in a separate document while we work out some formatting and space stuff.
Fixed typo in Pythoness Witch Tradition.
Rewrote the rules text for Healing Touch Mage Power.
Healing Touch Mage Power can now also help with stopping bleeding.
Healing Touch Mage Power now interacts with long-term care.
Reduced the default amount of extra HP healed by the Healing Touch Mage Power to +1. +2 HP is now available by spending a Eureka! Point.
Added 1 Eureka! Point effect to Healing Touch Mage Power that allows the target to ignore the penalties of Injuries and Incapacitation for the duration of the Scene.
Added 2 Eureka! Point power to Healing Touch that allows the healing of targets who are at 0 Penetrative HP under very limited circumstances.
Added 3 Eureka! Point power to Healing Touch that allows the reattachment of severed limbs under very limited circumstances.
Changed Incredible Strength Mage Power to not be “on” all the time by default it is now something that has to be “activated” on a per-Scene basis similar to the Glamour Mage Power.
Added a 1 Eureka! Point ability to the Incredible Strength Mage Power to increase the Athletics Bonus from +2 Base to +4 Base.
Fully codified the Invisibility Mage Power. It is no-longer up to like, interpretation the way it was. (This was a leftover fossil from EXTREMELY early in Eureka’s development.)
The codification of the Invisibility Mage Power also added several Eureka! Point abilities to it.
Started working on rewriting the Lightning Powers Mage Power. It’s a major rewrite.
Replaced the Invisibility Mage Power’s +10 Base Stealth Bonus with a +3 Base Stealth Bonus and instead better guidelines in general for how to handle invisibility. It also now has hard mechanical bonuses and penalties involved with fighting.
Finished the rewrite of Lightning Powers.
Fully rewrote the Manifest Weaponry power like completely.
Fixed typos in Pyrokinesis Mage Power.
Better codified Pyrokinesis Mage Power.
Added +1 to Pyrokinesis fires.
Pyrokinesis can now also produce a consistent candle flame on the fingertip.
Rewrote Remote Viewing Mage Power.
Rewrote Telekinesis Mage Power.
Rewrote Teleportation Mage Power.
Rewrote Superhuman Speed Mage Power. We actually managed to make it work instead of outright removing it! Woo!
Tweaked/updated Werewolf Mage Power.
Removed leftover old paragraphs from the Manifest Weaponry Mage Power.
Better clarified Telekinesis Mage Power.
Telekinesis Mage Power can no-longer be used with Knock-out Blow.
Changed the way that Superhuman Speed works so that it is more clear and also cooler.
Added a reminder to Superhuman Speed Mage Power for how changing Speed mid-fight works.
Changed the Superficial Damage applied to the attacker when using the enhanced version of Superhuman Speed
Fairies with the Healing Touch Mage Power can reattach limbs at a lower Eureka! Point cost compared to other users of the power.
Witches can use the Invisibility Mage Power to turn other people invisible.
Updated the Fairies and Remote Viewing section to be more like the Witches and Remote Viewing section. Fairies can’t use crystal balls or create the relevant enchanted items themselves mid-adventure. They can still hear things if they have Pointed Ears.
Changed Superhuman Strength so that when damage is increased for melee attacks, it is a choice between swapping Superficial to Penetrative damage or doubling the damage. Superficial damage cannot be swapped to Penetrative damage and then doubled, but damage that is already Penetrative can be doubled. For a Submission, damage cannot be doubled, only swapped to Penetrative.
Stated that the claws of vampires, wolfmen, and gorgons cannot be used for Knock-out Blows.
[talking in private to a tgirl I saw being pulled around on a leash by an older woman] many moons ago I slew my master, and now I am beholden to no one. I would do the same for you, my friend.
I think an important part of the "D&D is easy to learn" argument is that a lot of those people don't actually know how to play D&D. They know they need to roll a d20 and add some numbers and sometimes they need to roll another type of die for damage. A part of it is the culture of basically fucking around and letting the GM sort it out. Players don't actually feel the need to learn the rules.
Now I don't think the above actually counts as knowing the rules. D&D is a relatively crunchy game that actually rewards system mastery and actually learning how to play D&D well, as in to make mechanically informed tactical decisions and utilizing the mechanics to your advantage, is actually a skill that needs to be learned and cultivated. None of that is to say that you need to be a perfectly tuned CharOp machine to know how to play D&D. But to actually start to make the sorts of decisions D&D as a game rewards you kind of need to know the rules.
And like, a lot of people don't seem to know the rules. They know how to play D&D in the most abstract sense of knowing that they need to say things and sometimes the person scowling at them from behind the screen will ask them to roll a die. But that's hardly engaging with the mechanics of the game, like the actual game part.
And to paraphrase @prokopetz this also contributes to the impression that other games are hard to learn: because a lot of other games don't have the same culture of play of D&D so like instead of letting new players coast by with a shallow understanding of the rules and letting the GM do all the work, they ask players to start making mechanically informed decisions right away. Sure, it can suck for onboarding, but learning from your mistakes can often be a great way to learn.
When you have people that have actually done some reading on the rules vs. people that just coast and foist the majority of the game onto the GM, it makes it appear like the more knowledgeable players are sweaty power-gamers or rules-laywers.
Best example I've got with asking players to make informed decisions was when I ran the Wilderfeast Quick Start. The GM has the info about what ingredients can be gathered in any of the regions, but the party then has to cook it. They know what the ingredient does and just have to make the decision on how they want to combine their ingredients as a party.
#i just wanna play a silly game#i feel like. gatekept. while reading this#i don’t have the drive to read a several hundred pg game manual i just wanna play a game w my friends#like. it’s a game. play it how u want#jeeze
My point is not to say that people who don't want to learn the rules shouldn't play, only that people who don't actually know the rules aren't necessarily engaging with the game to its fullest, especially in the case of a relatively rules-heavy game like D&D, and that as the previous poster mentioned it can actually result in a bad rules dynamic where the DM needs to do more work due to player unwillingness to learn the rules as well as casting players who actually know the rules and can engage with them in unfavorable light. All of these are negative elements of the culture of play surrounding.
Like, there isn't anything meaningfully gatekeepy about saying "players who don't know the rules of the game aren't as good at playing the game as the people who know the rules of the game." Because playing games is a skill that can be cultivated and knowledge of the rules is an important part of that skill.
And respectfully, if the idea of learning the rules of D&D seems like an insurmountable task, you don't have to learn them, but you might actually gain something out of actually making an effort because it can make engaging with the game more rewarding for you. Or if the idea of learning the rules of a game that has hundreds of pages is an insurmountable obstacle, there are lots of games with much more modest page counts! D&D is actually relatively heavy as far as RPGs go but it's not the only RPG, and you can get rewarding mechanical engagement combined with cool stories for a much smaller time investment.
I actually want to dial in on the phrasing here, which seems - insidious isn't quite the right word - but really weasely to me.
There's this reflexive attempt to position the writer as the victim, from the way things are phrased to the actual sentiment.
"I feel gatekept" (note that its not "I have been gatekept") is a pretty transparent attempt to claim victimhood, and gain the reader's sympathies. Likewise "I just wanna" and such.
But then you have the sentiment of "I just want to play a silly game" and this carries this, like, baggage that game design is *not worth* taking seriously. Same with 'play it how u want', it's working to undermine the idea that you could *care* about this stuff, and it positions taking the artform seriously as an act of aggression against the poor victim who just wants to *not think about things.*
Which is to say its classic anti-intillectualism. "It's just a [song/tv show/book/game] don't take it seriously" is like classic anti-intellectualism, and generally comes from a fairly regressive infantalised place.
Which is a long way of saying fuck this person and fuck their slimy lowest-common-denominator bullshit.
D&D is easy to learn because people expect the GM to know all the rules. They don't need to learn anything, just let one person be the sacrificial scapegoat who heads into the DMG and figures out how fall damage works and whether encumbrance would be annoying.
They can set up the scenarios and build the maps and run the world. They already know the rest of the rules, so why not? They also know the stats for all the NPCs too, so might as well let them play everyone else
It's kinda their world and their game, too. So they can handle scheduling. My schedule is crazy, but they can figure it out.
What do you mean "learn a new game?" I don't have the time to learn a new game. I'm busy and D&D is so easy. We can play it how we want to.
I really don't have patience to the whole way of thinking the whole argument is based on. I'm just going to leave here this video by Matt Colville about the book Ellusive Shift
The gits of it is - no one EVER knew how to play this fucking game, people had arguments before the official first edition, the white booklets era. Most people played based on their own interpretation, then arguet about it in zines. All the crunch in the AD&D onward was Gary Gygax's attempt to make the rule for everything because he grew greedy and wished to kill the competition that built careers on explaining his crappy rules better than he did (also, he made AD&D to screw Dave Arneson of his due money).
In any other context I would agree with the proposed argument, but in D&D calling in question anyone's merit as conversation participant because they didn't memorize the useless numbers for useless rule that is only in this game to appease people waxing nostalgic over Gary's horrible, spite and greed-fueled design, is not only anti-intelelctual, it is openly spitting i nthe face of the history of the hobby to declare yourself as only one who knows better. Fuck that.
LBB D&D is only like that because it isn't a complete game: it assumes you already have and know Chainmail and Outdoor Survival at a bare minimum. Spiders LBB is an statistical outlier adn should not have been counted.
The first complete game - the Greyhawk supplement - is entirely straightforward and easy to pick up, and significantly simpler than modern D&D.
None of the early editions of D&D are hard to learn or obscure like you seem to think, so I assume you either have pudding for brains or are going entirely on hearsay rather than direct experience.
it is also fucking ridiculous for your argument to be "expecting people to read the source material is anti-intellectual".
Yeah, that response is a mess. Like, the initial thesis of this post was "people don't engage meaningfully with the rules of D&D and thus fail to cultivate important player skills," and people have since elaborated on how this is an issue with D&D's culture of play, and even articulated that framing this conversation as "gatekeeping" not only lets that culture fester but it's also extremely anti-intellectual. To try and frame the conversation that says "engaging with game texts is good and not bad actually" as anti-intellectual is such a clumsy rhetorical trick it's baffling.
Magic the Gathering is a game whose comprehensive rulebook is far, far, faaaaaaarrrrrrr bigger and more complex than the Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition Player's Handbook.
I'd wager nobody in the entire world has ever read the full comprehensive rules of MtG as they exist today.
And nobody expects you to! If you go to a Friday Night Magic with a random deck you bought in a toy store, no idea what the rules are like, I'm sure you'll find people willing to teach you, even explain how to properly play your deck in particular.
If, however, you keep coming to FNM for weeks, if not months, and you keep asking basic questions, like what "Flying" means, or what a "+1/+1 counter" does, or how any of the cards in the deck you've been playing for months does, if you call someone who tells you you can't block with that creature because it's already tapped that they're a "rules lawyer" who's "gatekeeping your fun", if it becomes apparent that you're not making any effort to actually learn the rules of the game... nobody will want to play with you anymore. You'll be labeled annoying at best, an asshole at worst.
And that's the case in any dedicated gaming space. As an avid board gamer, there's nothing more infuriating to me than having to re-explain basic rules because someone doesn't listen, or explaining what certain cards/characters/units/items/whatever do because someone is too lazy to simply read.
And yet, somehow, in D&D, behavior like this is apparently not just accepted, but expected, nay, encouraged(!) by the player base!
"I just want to play a silly game" is such an insidious way to phrase a statement about a game that requires so much effort from the DM. You might as well say "I just want to have a hot dinner waiting for me when I get home, is that so much to ask? I feel like I'm being gatekept from eating dinner."
You may not like cooking dinner—I certainly don't—but I do know how to make cooking dinner easier for my partner. I can chop onions or grate cheese, I can grab things for them while their hands are busy, I can make a simple side salad, I can put away ingredients as they're used, I can set the table and pour the water, I can clean up the dishes after the meal is over. I'm aware enough of what's involved in making dinner happen that I know how to help even if I don't do the most difficult central activity.
Plus, if asked what I want for dinner, I don't respond 'ooh, let's have filet mignon! I want filet mignon!' when there's no steak in the house, because I maintain at least basic working knowledge of the ingredients we typically have on hand and I know filets are not among them.
I don't expect my partner to handle 100% of everything to do with dinner just because I don't like cooking. Why? Because having somebody make me hot dinners is better than the alternative, and I'm not an asshole who's going to take advantage of the fact that my partner would probably cook for us even if I didn't help. I can help, so even though I would rather have an extra 30-40 minutes of fanfic time, I get up and help.
This is the attitude you are being asked to bring to D&D. You don't have to have cooking skills or meal planning skills or hosting skills, but you do have to accept that those skills are important to making dinner. You don't magically become qualified to pronounce "making dinner is easy!" just because you know how to eat it.
Sorry, this is maybe more of a rant, but I hope it showcases how the attitude discussed above makes the game annoying to dm or be a part of as a player.
The refusal to learn the rules or at the least the ones that are relevant to your character is not gatekeeping it's the bare minimum.
In my now basically defunct dnd group there was one player, that didn't remember their character skills or how those worked. We had played almost a year at that point, mostly once a month, yet they never learned how to use them and had to be taught during the first combat encounter every session.
Another case was the last time I was a player and not a dm. There was a warlock player that simply refused to learn how warlocks work. We almost got TPK'ed couple of times, because they didn't know how to use spells or what spells their character had. It made playing with the group so annoying that I eventually started hating our games. The warlock player enjoyed the game but the dm and everyone else at the table had to teach the basics to them every single session all the basics, no matter how often we played.
The crazy part is what this thread is discussing. Everyone else at both of those groups, except me, was fine with the fact those two players never learned the rules. The game where I dm'ed wasn't as bad, mainly because the other players took care of the teaching. It still irked me, because of the wasted time but they learned how things worked with one explanation.
The warlock player however was beyond saving. The dm and us players had to all teach every single session and sometimes multiple times a session, how initiative worked, how spells worked and where to find the spells. It genuinely made me quit the group mentally. Every combat encounter took twice the time it needed and sometimes we needed to also play their character for them. This wouldn't have been bad, if not for the fact that they still stopped tactically good plays "because it's not what the warlock character would do".
Why should the dm also be the teacher, when they are essentially the game engine and the npc's of the game? Not learning the basics of the game rules is like the dude who couldn't clear Cupheads tutorial, you can't excel at a game if you refuse to learn.
It also is disrespectful to everyone else at the table. It wastes time of others and shows that you don't appreciate it or the efforts of the dm
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The 'hyperspecific situations' polls are really once again highlighting that native English speakers tend to forget that 'foreign' doesn't mean 'non-English' or 'non-American'
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9 out of 10 times I see people on here celebrating a new "landmark piece of anti-AI legislation" the legislation in question is inevitably some variation of "we propose making IP laws more restrictive but presented through the language of opposing AI". But that one from germany about holding google liable for the words of its AI overview feature is legitimately good I think. If they actively choose to shove that thing in everyone's face as the first thing they're going to see when they make a google search then they shouldn't be able to dodge accountability for the information it provides with a little "gemini AI can be inaccurate, please remember to double-check information teeheehee" disclaimer.
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