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won't lie sometimes i do want to bust down the door and go "well i trust everything odysseus says during the apologoi implicitly" just because i have to be different. just to feel alive

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catalogue of ships? no thanks, i'm asexual

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catalogue of women? i would never buy a woman

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catalogue of ships? no thanks, i'm asexual

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Orphée ramenant Eurydice des enfers (Orpheus Leading Eurydice from the Underworld) (1861) by Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot (French, 1796 – 1875), oil on canvas, 112.3 cm (44.2 in) x 137.1 cm (53.9 in), Museum of Fine Arts, Houston

#orpheus #eurydike #art #jean baptiste camille corot

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Clytemnestra for @dykeganseythethird bc she’s so 🤌

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Hello :) I'd be curious to see the flow chart you've developed to guide translational selections of the Odyssey if you're happy to share it! Both for using it for my next read and for guiding my friends/family into the book who are looking for recommendations after watching the Nodyssey. Thanks 💙

i formalized it just for you. and @ilions-end. but mostly you

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i can only vouch for what i've read myself, but being as i am obsessive, i've added alternative paths based on comments by @finelythreadedsky and @doloneia! mwah

#translation talk #the odyssey

Hello :) I'd be curious to see the flow chart you've developed to guide translational selections of the Odyssey if you're happy to share it! Both for using it for my next read and for guiding my friends/family into the book who are looking for recommendations after watching the Nodyssey. Thanks 💙

i formalized it just for you. and @ilions-end. but mostly you

#pegasusdrawnchariots #ask #translation talk #the odyssey #*OK I DID MODIFY IT 30 MINUTES LATER BUT JUST A LITTLE.#as mentioned in the comments. these are just the ones i've read #there are of course many many more

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Do you have any article related to the odyssey you'd reccommend as complementary to the source?

sorry i've been sitting on your ask for so long! i am not and never have been a classics student; i came across most of these articles incidentally or here on tumblr:

"the odysseys within the odyssey" by italo calvino

"a note on memory and reciprocity in homer's odyssey" by anita nikkanen

"penelope and the poetics of remembering" by melissa mueller

"a glossary of haunting" by eve tuck and c. ree (this is mostly about horror fiction and settler-colonialism but it has a gloss on the cyclops that i think everyone, certainly everyone american, should read)

silence in the land of logos by silvia montiglio chapter 8: "silence, ruse, and endurance: odysseus and beyond"

"the name of odysseus" by g.e. dimock, jr.

also ok it's very much not "good" but there's an article by w.b. stanford called "personal relationships" that just lists all his hot takes about the relationships in the odyssey for 25 pages. it reads just like scrolling the blog of a mutual twice removed. they let men publish ANYTHING in the 60s. i love this essay. i would read this essay out loud over discord right now if someone asked me.

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anyone remember ages and ages ago when i said i would scan the stanford hot takes... yeah me neither

#it should be available to anyone through the link #w.b. stanford

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you know what ELSE i am Thinking About

athena to odysseus in book 15

odysseus to penelope in book 23

#they are insane people ❤️

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Finally, I have access to my scanner again, so, resharing these. Especially as one of the original posts was hidden as a potentially mature content and doesn't seem to be able to get out of the Content Label review. ( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ) And the originals are once again being sold HERE ✨

#athena #selene #the maenads #zephyr #icarus #psyche #thalia #melpomene #the graeae #polyphemus #hekate #art

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Eric Bana as Hector Troy (2004)

#hektor #f: troy 2004 #i do love him is the thing

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Shooting through some axes like that guy in that film.

a commentator in the discussion of odyssey books 1-4 (new york review seminars) referred to the domesticity of the odyssey, contrasted with the iliad, as being "in the world of hector" ... may become obsessed with this

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i have this fantasy of making a quiz for suggesting english translations to people who want to read the iliad or odyssey for the first time. whenever i see a "which translation should i read??" post i'm always like "well that depends on what kind of reading experience you'd like"

some questions i imagine are "how used are you to reading older literature"; "how likely are you to look up annotations in the back if there are names and concepts you're unfamiliar with"; "prose or poetic"; "would you prefer if the language feels older/more formal" as well as the typical "which translation of this passage appeals to you"

what stops me is that i don't know what online quiz template could handle the calculations i'd want for a quiz like this (i fear it ought to have those repetitive "how significant is this question to you" things) (also preferably the results would show multiple ranked suggestions), but most of all i am absolutely NOT an authority on iliad/odyssey translations

#translation talk #no literally this is why i have a flow chart.#tags also!

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I've been moving so I'm late to the Nolan Odyssey train and only just got to see it but that person who said your posts are the best part of the new movie is so right. You've inspired me to go back and re-read The Odyssey (probably The Illaid as well?) And idk thank you for your analysis of greek myth, it's such a breath of fresh air

that's very kind, thank you! i've been here (gestures at sandbox of choice) for awhile, but it's exciting to be In It right now with so many other people. i hope you enjoy your reread!

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I really enjoyed your review of Nolan's Odyssey! A little bit I enjoyed that I haven't seen people talking about is making Mentes a beggar instead of a foreign king, which kind of foreshadows that Odysseus, much like Athena, will disguise himself as one (speaking of which, I think that the weirdest decision of the movie was turning Irus into an assassin; not bad, just kinda funny that his context is changed but he still fights Odysseus).

I wanted to ask you, what did you think of the removal of Eurymachus and Amphinomus? At first I thought it was very reasonable considering the movie's length, but then I realized Eurymachus sort of has a replacement (named after his father Polybus apparently) who acts in the same way as sort of a second-in-command to the suitors but doesn't have Eurymachus' silver tongue. Do you think Eurymachus could fit somewhere?

oh my god. i'll be so for real, i did not put together that that was irus. auditory processing disorder got me again. what the fuck

i didn't think a lot of the removal of eurymachus (et al) at the time; nolan is definitely not the first to streamline down to antinous as the main villain, and it's probably one of the least controversial decisions that film adaptations of the odyssey can make. i don't really see the logic of putting eurymachus' father in his place, but polybus also had pretty minimal characterization, so it doesn't end up mattering in the film as is.

and fwiw, despite all the controversy, i still don't think most of what nolan cut or changed is wrong or unreasonable for the medium he's working in. whether the cuts and changes are interesting, aesthetically pleasing, regressive, in conversation with the odyssey, or ultimately thematically successful are all different subjects. but in terms of adapting the odyssey to a standalone film, as a discrete unit where 3 hours is usually the maximum length, i don't think that will ever be suited to exploring the odyssey's entire supporting cast. supporting casts, really, because it's not just the suitors; it's odysseus' crew, his old war buddies, the monster encounters, and the gods, too. so like, i think eurymachus has a place distinct from antinous' that could fit into an adaptation of the odyssey—but not necessarily on film.

#jabutipiranga #ask

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