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Hello :) I'd be curious to see the flow chart you've developed to guide translational selections of the Odyssey if you're happy to share it! Both for using it for my next read and for guiding my friends/family into the book who are looking for recommendations after watching the Nodyssey. Thanks 💙
i formalized it just for you. and @ilions-end. but mostly you
i can only vouch for what i've read myself, but being as i am obsessive, i've added alternative paths based on comments by @finelythreadedsky and @doloneia! mwah
Hello :) I'd be curious to see the flow chart you've developed to guide translational selections of the Odyssey if you're happy to share it! Both for using it for my next read and for guiding my friends/family into the book who are looking for recommendations after watching the Nodyssey. Thanks 💙
i formalized it just for you. and @ilions-end. but mostly you
Do you have any article related to the odyssey you'd reccommend as complementary to the source?
sorry i've been sitting on your ask for so long! i am not and never have been a classics student; i came across most of these articles incidentally or here on tumblr:
"the odysseys within the odyssey" by italo calvino
"a note on memory and reciprocity in homer's odyssey" by anita nikkanen
"penelope and the poetics of remembering" by melissa mueller
"a glossary of haunting" by eve tuck and c. ree (this is mostly about horror fiction and settler-colonialism but it has a gloss on the cyclops that i think everyone, certainly everyone american, should read)
silence in the land of logos by silvia montiglio chapter 8: "silence, ruse, and endurance: odysseus and beyond"
"the name of odysseus" by g.e. dimock, jr.
also ok it's very much not "good" but there's an article by w.b. stanford called "personal relationships" that just lists all his hot takes about the relationships in the odyssey for 25 pages. it reads just like scrolling the blog of a mutual twice removed. they let men publish ANYTHING in the 60s. i love this essay. i would read this essay out loud over discord right now if someone asked me.
anyone remember ages and ages ago when i said i would scan the stanford hot takes... yeah me neither

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athena to odysseus in book 15
odysseus to penelope in book 23
Finally, I have access to my scanner again, so, resharing these. Especially as one of the original posts was hidden as a potentially mature content and doesn't seem to be able to get out of the Content Label review. ( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ) And the originals are once again being sold HERE ✨
Eric Bana as Hector Troy (2004)
Shooting through some axes like that guy in that film.
a commentator in the discussion of odyssey books 1-4 (new york review seminars) referred to the domesticity of the odyssey, contrasted with the iliad, as being "in the world of hector" ... may become obsessed with this

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i have this fantasy of making a quiz for suggesting english translations to people who want to read the iliad or odyssey for the first time. whenever i see a "which translation should i read??" post i'm always like "well that depends on what kind of reading experience you'd like"
some questions i imagine are "how used are you to reading older literature"; "how likely are you to look up annotations in the back if there are names and concepts you're unfamiliar with"; "prose or poetic"; "would you prefer if the language feels older/more formal" as well as the typical "which translation of this passage appeals to you"
what stops me is that i don't know what online quiz template could handle the calculations i'd want for a quiz like this (i fear it ought to have those repetitive "how significant is this question to you" things) (also preferably the results would show multiple ranked suggestions), but most of all i am absolutely NOT an authority on iliad/odyssey translations
I've been moving so I'm late to the Nolan Odyssey train and only just got to see it but that person who said your posts are the best part of the new movie is so right. You've inspired me to go back and re-read The Odyssey (probably The Illaid as well?) And idk thank you for your analysis of greek myth, it's such a breath of fresh air
that's very kind, thank you! i've been here (gestures at sandbox of choice) for awhile, but it's exciting to be In It right now with so many other people. i hope you enjoy your reread!
I really enjoyed your review of Nolan's Odyssey! A little bit I enjoyed that I haven't seen people talking about is making Mentes a beggar instead of a foreign king, which kind of foreshadows that Odysseus, much like Athena, will disguise himself as one (speaking of which, I think that the weirdest decision of the movie was turning Irus into an assassin; not bad, just kinda funny that his context is changed but he still fights Odysseus).
I wanted to ask you, what did you think of the removal of Eurymachus and Amphinomus? At first I thought it was very reasonable considering the movie's length, but then I realized Eurymachus sort of has a replacement (named after his father Polybus apparently) who acts in the same way as sort of a second-in-command to the suitors but doesn't have Eurymachus' silver tongue. Do you think Eurymachus could fit somewhere?
oh my god. i'll be so for real, i did not put together that that was irus. auditory processing disorder got me again. what the fuck
i didn't think a lot of the removal of eurymachus (et al) at the time; nolan is definitely not the first to streamline down to antinous as the main villain, and it's probably one of the least controversial decisions that film adaptations of the odyssey can make. i don't really see the logic of putting eurymachus' father in his place, but polybus also had pretty minimal characterization, so it doesn't end up mattering in the film as is.
and fwiw, despite all the controversy, i still don't think most of what nolan cut or changed is wrong or unreasonable for the medium he's working in. whether the cuts and changes are interesting, aesthetically pleasing, regressive, in conversation with the odyssey, or ultimately thematically successful are all different subjects. but in terms of adapting the odyssey to a standalone film, as a discrete unit where 3 hours is usually the maximum length, i don't think that will ever be suited to exploring the odyssey's entire supporting cast. supporting casts, really, because it's not just the suitors; it's odysseus' crew, his old war buddies, the monster encounters, and the gods, too. so like, i think eurymachus has a place distinct from antinous' that could fit into an adaptation of the odyssey—but not necessarily on film.
people like to lump circe and calypso together and i see why, i’ve done it too, but i think maybe calypso is better matched with nausicaa, because it’s actually nausicaa who is calypso but stronger
circe lets odysseus go freely, but the thing is, circe doesn’t care about odysseus. circe has her fun with him and his men and teaches him to tie knots and gives devastating news like “you have to go to the underworld,” but when he leaves her life is unchanged; she doesn’t care what odysseus does. she doesn’t care enough to try to keep him.
calypso cares. calypso saves his life and cares for him. she “loves” odysseus, wants to keep him, marry him, make him immortal. for seven years, she does keep him, she certainly doesn’t let him go freely, and her goodbye is wheedling and desperate and graceless.
nausicaa cares. he throws himself on her mercy, and she cares for him. she’s too young to love him, maybe (and dodged a bullet, certainly) but she wants to marry him, admires him. nausicaa could keep him if she wanted to — and she wants to.
but she doesn’t, and in her goodbye, charges him only to remember her.
i feel like nausicaa kind of walks into the odyssey out of a different genre. a fairy tale. odysseus knows what kind of story he’s in, and it’s not that. but nausicaa is tossing a ball with her friends when she throws it too far and loses it. when she goes after it she finds a cursed man. she doesn’t run away because she’s brave. she gives him her laundry to clothe himself because she’s kind. she sneaks him into her palace. if this were a fairy tale he would marry her! but when he doesn’t, she doesn’t turn into a witch or a monster. she’s still just kind to him. idk. i love her.
(in an interrogation about why i didn't even notice achilles was missing from nolan odyssey's underworld until an hour after i left the movie theater) i'm sure achilles is good to the people who like him

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misc odyssey things 🐎 ino + circe
+nausicaa wip
‘Poseidon left a party in Ethiopia because the sea vibes went rancid after Odysseus set sail’ feels like a bit I would make up, but no. That actually happened.