Kyra, she/her, aro/ace, queer in general. I have a lot of Loki feelings. I write fanfic sometimes, mostly about Loki. I like stupid jokes and I play games on easy because I'm an adult and I can do that if I want to. I also dabble in customizing action figures, and I have an Etsy shop for simple Funko Pop! customs and a few other things. Formerly visions-and-revisions. I also run the Hope Jar and Alaska Gothic. Ace Inquisitor icon by doriansbutt--go commission them!
because Iâd love to have a fancier pinned post but realistically itâll be years before I get around to making one and Iâd like something useful in the meantime, Iâm just going to make a list of potentially interesting/relevant links...
Archive of Our Own (also I have several invites)
Twitter, Instagram, Bluesky, Mastodon grudgingly and I havenât actually used it yet
Discord: 100indecisions
Grouvee but I mostly just use it for obsessively listing games Iâve played or want to play rather than talking about themÂ
GoodReads and Storygraph, ditto, although I do occasionally write book reviews on GoodReads, especially about Loki-related books (I have a whole shelf for this...and another shelf of Hiddleston-related books)
my tiny Etsy shop
my carrd, with a few other links
a scattershot guide to shopping with Xianyu and SuperbuyÂ
and tags:
occasionally I write things: my writing tag (all finished stuff is on AO3 though)
adventures in customizing: customized action figures (well, mostly Funko figures) and other craft-type things sometimes
my meta: my meta/headcanon posts, which sometimes means original posts and sometimes just means I reblogged something and added a little in the tags; primarily but not exclusively about Loki (one in particular is my attempt at a comprehensive list of evidence that Loki was tortured on Sanctuary)
the adventures of tiny Loki and Thor: silly action figure photos
loki show: well thatâs my tag for the Loki show. itâs also the one to blacklist if you really hated it, because I mostly really liked it, so nearly everything I post about it is positive
I have an army...of Loki figures: my collection of Loki figures, plushies, pins, etc. Iâve been building it since at least 2014. itâs, uh, large
my kids: my fuzzy children (one dog, one cat)...and characters I make in games, because they are also my children
kyra plays: posts about games Iâm playing
fic rec: fic recs
queer stuff: self-explanatory
this whole thing smacks of gender: apparently I might not be 100% cis after all, which is news to me (Iâm like. still mostly cis but also a tiny bit agender, but specifically in a âmy tag about this is based on a dril tweetâ way?)Â
plagueblogging: started out as personal pandemic-related stuff, kinda expanded to 2020 in general, kinda went back to being specifically pandemic-related when 2020 ended and everything that came with it...didnât (as of April 2022, includes my own experiences with covid, yaaaay)
cool stuff people made me: commissions and art requests mostly
the-hope-jar: my sideblog for just like...hopeful/encouraging/happy things
alaska-gothic: my sideblog for what it says on the tin (includes some of my own photography, although not a lot, and I keep meaning to post more)
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The Autistic Allegory of Loki: Trauma, Acceptance & Survival
Prefacing this by stating that this is my own interpretation and commentary as an autistic individual myself. I am not claiming Loki is autistic, nor am I trying to take away the relatability for others who relate to his character/story who arenât autistic. This is solely a personal piece.
For many, Loki is a symbol of difference, of the outsider, of the âdifficultâ and âmisunderstoodâ, so it is hardly surprising that a lot of neurodivergent individuals â specifically autistic â love his character and relate to him.
Long before I was diagnosed as autistic, I remember watching âThorâ and getting to the scene in which Loki finds out about his true heritage. At the age of 13, I remember feeling so deeply empathetic for Loki, for relating so much to that specific scene, yet I couldnât understand why â or I didnât know why yet. Years later, and I had my own âit all makes sense nowâ revelationâŚ
Iâm autistic. Late diagnosed. I went through the majority of my life feeling I was different, an outsider, broken⌠I didnât know why. And then, one day, just like Loki, I had it confirmedâŚ
I was different.
And everything began to make sense. It made sense as to why I felt different, why I was treated differently.
Loki is also a character that famously wears masks, who casts illusions to try and hide his vulnerabilities and weaknesses. Iâd also argue that Loki mirrors and takes pieces of others around him and incorporates it into these masks â Odin and Thanos are the most prominent two figures he has tried to emulate. Of course, autistic individuals also mask. Both forms of masking comes from a similar, if not the same, placeâŚ
Trauma, acceptance and survival.
Loki struggles with his identity and his sense of self. He seems to adapt and shift to his surroundings and those who occupy it, which is something that can arguably make it difficult for a person to know themselves when theyâre busy being so many different people. Tom Hiddleston even said that Loki is a character that âplays all the keys on the pianoâ. From a young age, Loki likely had to read the room, to observe and learn and work out what the situation called for. For example, at the start of âThorâ, Loki seems reserved and quiet, keenly observing rather than speaking, choosing to let the situation play out before he makes any more moves of his own.
Loki also grew up with the weight of expectations considering he was a Prince of Asgard. Loki had been given a role to fill, a box to remain inside. This is explored further in the âLokiâ series with the introduction of the TVA, the Time Keepers (He Who Remains) and the ârolesâ that each variant plays within the Sacred Timeline. Unbeknownst to Loki, he was boxed even further by them. According to Mobius, Lokiâs role was to âhelp others achieve the best versions of themselvesâ â Loki was always destined to lose on the Sacred Timeline.
Many autistic people can relate to this feeling, the weight of expectations, the invisible box that you âshouldâ fit nicely into to make others comfortable and happy⌠And you mask to do so, because itâs easier.
Loki believes that making people believe in the illusion is easier â safer.
Thereâs the assumption people make about autistic people that they are selfish and lack emotion/empathy, when it isnât always true. Autism isnât a âone size fits allâ, itâs a spectrum. People around Loki often assume he is selfish or lacks empathy for others. Whilst he definitely displays selfish tendencies, it is an act of self-preservation, not always out of true malice. Loki does care about others, this is evidenced by his actions towards his family, his home and friends. Loki is often misunderstood â some of it is his own doing, whilst other times itâs an unfortunate thing.
Loki bases his sense of self on those around him. Without people around him, Loki struggles to know where he fits.
This is highly relatable for me personally as an autistic individual. I often struggle with my identity and understanding of myself, often feeling somehow on the outside of social circles but needing them to fulfil âmy roleâ.
In âThor Ragnarokâ, Thor told Loki that he âwill always be the God of Mischiefâ but that he âcould be moreâ, once again confirming that Loki tends to âstay inside his roleâ and expectations instead of trying to change things â because change is scary. Even in the series, Mobius tells Loki: âYou can be whoever, whatever you wanna be.â It makes me believe that Loki feels like he cannot be anything else except what others expect, which I know is something I struggle with personally too as an autistic person. Insecurities, doubt and past experiences shape our choices and how âsafeâ we feel trying to let go of masks.
It is scientifically proven that autistic people are more likely to experience trauma than the average person. Research also shows that autistic people are more likely to experience toxic or abusive relationships than neurotypicals are (but of course, sadly they can happen to anyone regardless of gender, neurotype, sexuality, ethnicity, age etc).
Loki is a character that seems to constantly find himself in cycles with toxic and/or abusive relationships.
Lokiâs relationship with Odin is unhealthy and toxic, with Loki constantly striving to be seen as Thorâs equal in the eyes of the All-Father. Itâs a dynamic that is wrapped in misunderstandings and mistakes. Loki was competing with Thor, feeling like Thor was favoured, and Odinâs words/actions always seemed to back up the narrative that Loki believed, in his mind proving that he was right all along - that he would never be enough for his father. These thoughts are so deeply ingrained into Lokiâs psyche, they shaped his own perception of himself and it is wise to come to the conclusion there is trauma tied to this fact.
With Loki, he began to see Odinâs love is conditional and comes with strings attached. Even if this was simply Odin losing his temper with Loki, it is a cruel and harsh thing to say to your adopted son. Especially, as in Lokiâs mind he had already been cast out again by Odin at the end of âThorâ, taking Odinâs âno, Lokiâ as rejection, solidifying once more his internal beliefs and feelings about his place amongst his family.
Of course, then we have Thanos. And whilst this dynamic isnât directly really shown on screen much (especially not during âAvengersâ), from what we know about both characters, we can paint a pretty good picture of their relationship. If Loki thought Odinâs acceptance and approval was conditional, then he knew Thanosâ certainly was. Loki fell from the Bifrost in his lowest moment and stumbled into another toxic/abusive dynamic. Loki is acting out of fear/desperation, necessity and survival.
Then in âThor Ragnarokâ, we see Loki under the âruleâ of the Grandmaster â another very powerful being who could discard of Loki if he does something he doesnât approve of. And then even in the âLokiâ series, Loki falls into the TVAâs hands, meeting Mobius; who whilst isnât inherently cruel, evil or abusive, he is Lokiâs âwardenâ. There is a power imbalance there, and he has the ability to have Loki erased from existence.
I wonât go into too much more detail about this topic of trauma, abuse and cycles for the sake of keeping the post not too long, but I wrote a whole paper about âLoki and his humanityâ and I explore this topic a lot more in that â if youâre interested.
But my point is, that Loki finds himself in cycles â whether it be his actions, his relationships, his masks, his ambitions⌠This is something that happens to people who have experienced trauma.
Loki is constantly fighting to survive.
Autistic people live in a world that wasnât made for them. You could argue that Loki lives in a world that wasnât made for him either. He was taken from his birthplace, his appearance altered with magic by Odin, lived in a realm that likely treated him differently due to an inherent âunknown feelingâ they got from himâŚ
To me, Lokiâs entire existence feels like a metaphor for autism and all the intricacies/struggles that come with not being neurotypical. For me, Loki is a character that I will always see myself in. Iâm able to look at his actions and choices and relate them to my own experiences and thoughts, and I think that goes to show just how special of a character he is.
Yes this is an excellent post! I think Loki is for sure neurodivergent in one way or another, because he demonstrates a lot of ADHD behaviors in the show, and the fact that he doesn't as much in the films could just be because he got used to masking in Asgard. Autism also seems like a completely reasonable interpretation. Either way, I love the way that the Frost Giant revelation becomes an amazing metaphor for late-diagnosed neurodivergence, because it really does work perfectly--everybody else knows he's different even if they can't exactly say why and they treat him accordingly, and everything makes sense when Loki finally understands that yes, he actually is different, and it was never anything he could change.
Hazy's energy is normal today, which is always good to see, but her breathing seems a little pained or at least like it takes a little effort when she's resting, so that makes me nervous...and I was thinking that maybe I told the vet the wrong side for the lump, but no, I've confirmed she actually has one on each side, so now I'm doubly annoyed they couldn't find anything at all. like yes her physical positioning does make a difference for how easily I can find it but also it's just not that hard and I really want to get this checked out as soon as possible!
why be radically exclusionary abt queerness when you could be radically inclusionary instead. let's inflate the numbers. let's become the majority. the sky's the limit
"we can't let just ANYONE call themselves queer!!" what are you talking about. I'm steepling my fingers and gleefully cackling every time we Get Another One and you should be too. lock in.
Fuck yeah, let's make this little raft we're surviving on big as hell. If I bring my bit of driftwood and you bring yours and we let as many people join in as want to, we might end up with a functional boat.
Back when I was active on AVEN (I have no idea what it's like now), we had two definitions of asexual -- an external definition and an internal definition. The external definition, the one that's on the wiki and the press material and that everyone uses when talking about asexuality, was of course "an asexual is someone who does not experience sexual attraction". The internal definition, the one we kept in mind when talking to each other, was "an asexual is someone who calls themself asexual".
The reason for this was very simple and very practical. In the very early AVEN and immediately pre-AVEN days, back before my time when the disparate ace communities were first finding each other and creating a public online network, there was a fair lot of exclusionist discourse. There are a lot of ways to be asexual, and the early community of course fell prey to the usual infighting about whether someone with a libido counts as asexual, whether someone who chooses to have sex can be asexual (usual tiring Purity Brigade Bullshit), whether someone without a libido counts as asexual (after all, if you have no sex drive, are you sure it's a matter of sexual orientation?), whether ace people count as lgbtq, all the usual nonsense. This worked out the way it pretty much always does -- the inclusionists "win", because exclusionists always break off into smaller and smaller communities so the largest group is, of course, the one where all different kinds of people stick together and welcome each other. And that was AVEN.
And when you're trying to have a strong community and somebody shows up at the gates saying, "hi, I think I'm asexual", it's a fucking horrible idea to start doubting their credentials. They saw the public definition and started calling themselves asexual; they're here, and now they're under the internal definition. An asexual is somebody who calls themself asexual. Sometimes, these people would be frustrated allosexuals, or people choosing to swear off sex, who might not fit the external definition of the term. We made sure that everyone knew the external definition, and there were always conversations about asexuality and how it affected our lives, if they asked us directly what we thought then we'd say "only you can know for sure" and then give our thoughts on the matter for as long as they asked for them, and other than that it wasn't anyone else's fucking business or anyone's place to judge. If people weren't nasty and didn't create problems, they could stay and call themselves whatever they wanted.
Many of these people who didn't fit the strict definition eventually left after receiving support and discovering more about themselves. Some stopped IDing as ace but became allies to the community. Some people who came in with the most "I'm a heterosexual girl who is angry at my boyfriend" intro posts you've ever seen in your life discovered that they were in fact ace and that the messages that society had taught them about sex and romance were simply not for them -- these are people who, in a gatekept community, would have been incorrectly ousted immediately.
And then there were people -- a LOT of people -- who found themselves in grey areas. People who said "okay, this community makes sense to me and is useful to me and I have so much in common with a lot of you, but not EXACTLY like you. However, what I experience may not be the strict default definition but it's an awful lot like these other members on the forum." And they formed sub-communities. The grey aces. The demisexuals. The aromantics and greyromantics. Through these dialogues, between subgroups who in a more exclusionary community would be arguing about who the "real" asexuals are and splintering off into their own communities away from all those stupid cishet fakers, we developed language to describe our similarities and differences. The sexual/romantic/aesthetic attraction model came out of these dialogues and it became so massively important to our understanding of asexuality that basically everyone in the ace/aro community describes themselves by it, as do a large number of people outside the community. The community made massive leaps ahead in just a decade or two by, well, being a community. By being a place where anybody who called the place home, and didn't bully other people in the home, was right. By being somewhere where anybody who saw "asexual: someone who doesn't experience sexual attraction" and thought "that sounds like a term with some use for me" was allowed to use it.
An asexual is somebody who does not experience sexual attraction.
An asexual is somebody who calls themselves asexual.
These definitions are not in conflict -- they are both, in concert, fundamentally necessary for a safe and vibrant community where we can protect, support, and learn about each other and ourselves.
And that is absolutely not exclusive to asexual communities.
because I don't have a better place to put them, here is my sort-of-ongoing collection of myself with Tom Hiddleston movie posters at various theaters. it is, sadly, very small. I can't remember if there was a Crimson Peak poster when I saw that or if I just didn't think to get a picture with it; ditto for Kong: Skull Island, although the main poster didn't have him on it anyway. I didn't think to check for a Life of Chuck poster. and I'm pretty sure I didn't see the first Thor film in theaters. can't remember about Avengers. yes, I'm annoyed at Past Me for all of those.
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I bring you: custom Funko Quantum Suit Loki, something we wouldâve gotten from canon in Endgame if there were any justice in the world! Imagine an AU where Loki doesnât immediately die in IW, right, so heâs there to help out on the Time Heist, instead of or alongside Thor? Yes, it wouldâve been great. (Arguably, this is Loki from one of @bedlamsbard's AUs!)
Somewhat embarrassed to admit this is my first finished custom figure in quite a while and itâs pretty damn simple, just Ragnarok Lokiâs head and daggers and Quantum Suit Ant-Manâs body, and the reason it took me so long to get around to it despite this being little more than a head swap is those stupid daggers. I thought they might be a problem and they were. They didnât want to stay glued to the fists in the first place and even when I got them to attach, they still wouldnât stick very solidly, so theyâll break back off without much effort. You might notice one of them is braced on his leg because there was no other way to make it stay at all. And even then they look a little wonky, although you mostly canât tell from this angle.
The important thing though is that heâs done and heâs cute. (Also if I hadnât insisted on giving him daggers I wouldâve done this at least 6 years ago.)
Please send good vibes Hazyâs way, or somethingâshe has a dental cleaning tomorrow, which is always kind of a big deal because it involves full anesthesia, but thereâs also a small lump under the skin on her side I want them to check out while sheâs under, so Iâm nervous about that. I'm not even sure how thoroughly they'll be able to check it out at this point, so the likeliest outcome is a "yeah we should take a closer look at that" and I'll just have to worry about it even longer until they can
poor baby had ten teeth removed, pretty much everything on the bottom I think, and I don't know how inevitable that was at this point for a little dog but I sure feel like a horrible mother for not trying hard enough to brush her teeth. Scully just kind of lost teeth steadily with each cleaning until they were all gone, but until now Hazy's only had to get one pulled, so she was doing really well until now. :( she's not feeling great from a combination of extraction pain and coming off anesthesia.
and they couldn't find the lump. apparently three different people tried. it can't be that hard...but now I'm suddenly wondering if I got confused and told them the wrong side of her body? anyway I guess we're going to have to go through more stress for another sedated appointment to get that checked out. somehow. obviously it would be a lot easier if she would let the vets touch her without being sedated.
"Kill your darlings" means "if something is holding you back, get rid of it, even if it sounds pretty."
That's it! That's all it means! It means if you're stuck and stalled out on your story and you could fix the whole block by removing something but you're avoiding removing that thing because it's good, you remove that thing. That's the darling.
It does NOT mean
That you have to get rid of your self-indulgent writing
That you should delete something just because you like it (?wtf?)
That you need to kill off characters (??? what)
That you have to pare your story down to the absolute bare bones
That you have to delete anything whatsoever if you don't want to
The POINT is that you STOP FEELING GUILTY for throwing out good writing that isn't SERVING THE STORY.
The POINT is that you don't get so HUNG UP on the details that you lose sight of the BIG PICTURE.
The way people have twisted âkill your darlingsâ into âanything you really love has to go, because you love it and for no other reasonâ is something Iâm very comfortable blaming on Protestantism because that kind of thing is millimeters away from â[x] has become an idol in your lifeâ where [x] is the most innocuous thing imaginable but the sin is that you like it
Please send good vibes Hazyâs way, or somethingâshe has a dental cleaning tomorrow, which is always kind of a big deal because it involves full anesthesia, but thereâs also a small lump under the skin on her side I want them to check out while sheâs under, so Iâm nervous about that. I'm not even sure how thoroughly they'll be able to check it out at this point, so the likeliest outcome is a "yeah we should take a closer look at that" and I'll just have to worry about it even longer until they can
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everyone in the notes we are all holding hands. everyone who hasnt worked on a wip in weeks or months or years, its okay. we are going slow but we are going
If Ratatouille mechanics were real, there would be a whole market of businesses offering the services of operating rats to people who want them, and it'd be like how bees produce honey. People in the rat business would be so exhausted of having to explain over and over again that no, the rats aren't being exploited. If the rats didn't like how they're being treated, they would simply not return. There's no goddamn way to force a rat to be so passionate about playing the saxophone that they'll figure out how to puppeteer a human to do it for them. All that the business does is finding a way to put that specific rat in the hair of someone who's about to go on stage.
A rat manager who is a rat and deals on their end of the deal is exhausted of having to explain over and over again that look, an average fully grown adult human being is like 200 times your weight, their hands are very fast and they can throw things better than you want to imagine. If one of them things didn't want you in their hair, you're not going to stay there for long. You'd be yote out the window in two seconds flat.
THE HUMANITY OF LOKI - AN ANALYSIS OF THE GOD OF MISCHIEF AND HIS KINDREDNESS WITH MORTALS
THE HUMANITY OF LOKI - AN ANALYSIS OF THE GOD OF MISCHIEF AND HIS KINDREDNESS WITH MORTALS Abstract: Loki, The God of Mischief, has played
Being brave and posting my paper! Please keep in mind this is just a âcompleteâ first draft and will not be perfect! Itâs been around 8-9 years since I wrote anything like this lmao (media studies in school was probably the last time!)
It focuses on (MCU) Lokiâs relationships with other âmore powerfulâ characters and how his trauma affects this, his identity, how he finds himself in the same cycles and why he (in my opinion) is closer to mortals than other gods for his struggles and vulnerabilities.
This piece is subjective and my interpretation of the texts Marvel Studios provided with the films & series with some references to external sources such as interviews/quotes.
Word count: 6920
Abstract below the cut!
Loki, The God of Mischief, has played many roles within Marvelâs Cinematic Universe; from trickster to villain, a harbinger of chaos and of order, antagonist and hero⌠However, beneath all the illusions and masks, Loki is a character that at his core is far more mortal than some, even himself, may realise. Despite being a God, Loki is far closer to the humans he sought to rule with his vulnerabilities, sharing in similar conflicts like identity and his sense of self, insecurity, trauma, his need for acceptance, power and the search for purpose in his life. Loki is beloved by many, appealing to those in the audience who have in their own ways faced similar struggles; thereâs a humanity to him that draws viewers in, a sense of recognition and reflection. However, this isnât only present outside of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it also exists within said universe, despite the characters insistence that he is above such sentimentality, mortality and weakness.
In this paper, I will explore this subject by analysing Lokiâs actions, traits and his words. Using his infamous âkneel before meâ speech from âThe Avengers (2012)â, I will demonstrate how his words directed towards the mortals are actually a reflection of his own feelings and experiences; diving into the ways in which Loki has a kindredness with mortals and how his desire to rule over them was an attempt to bring some order to his own chaotic existence. I will be using and referencing the cinematic releases from Marvel featuring Loki along with the Disney+ series âLokiâ, exploring his origin, his relationship with powerful figures and how it has affected him, the self-sabotaging cycles he finds himself stuck in, why he makes the choices he does, how he views himself and how he is often paralleled by mortal characters like âHe Who Remainsâ.
Loki once believed there were no men like him, that he was above the mortals, that he could be a saviour to the people of Earth, but in his struggle for power and control, for recognition, he was diminishing his own lifeâs joy. Does Lokiâs quest for power represent his natural state? Does Loki in some way crave subjugation? Does Lokiâs repetitive behaviour and relationships with more powerful beings indicate he was made to be ruled? In my analysis, I hope to draw some conclusions to these questions and delve deeper into the heart of the God of Mischief and why in the end, he will always kneel.
Today (Wednesday 5th Aug 2026) the UK has brought into force a trans segregationist policy stating that single sex spaces must be defined by sex assigned at birth, effectively a trans bathroom ban the same as many of the most right wing states of the US. On top of this, the guidance now in force mandates that trans people be outed non-consensually at their workplace and asked to use the incorrect bathroom by their employers, which will drive higher unemployment in an already disproportionately unemployed and unemployable population.
Today is a deeply horrible and dark day in British democracy as a policy pushed by a select few fascists engaging in a campaign of bullying, sexual harassment, lawfare and institutional capture have pushed through a policy that the vast majority disagree with oriented around harming a tiny minority of the population.
The only solution that will create change is that trans people need to organise. When this guidance was first proposed I wrote the following essay, outlining the specifics of how someone can set up a trans assembly from which harm reduction structures can be formed and clear directions from the trans community can be given to our cis allies, strengthening our political position and creating a pathway back towards being recognised as human beings while protecting the most vulnerable amongst us in the meantime.
I am aware of half a dozen locations where people have started organising towards a trans assembly since I made this, although none of them are in the UK. We desperately need this kind of organising here. We need trans assemblies and we need community formed and focused harm reduction structures.
I have made myself available to people who have started holding regular assemblies in other places to review their constitutions and organising structures and consult with them to get them off the ground, and I may at some point write a followup comparing the results. I am more than happy to help anyone who is putting together a project like this.
Please share this and organise like our lives depend on it.
I know I keep mentioning this damn paper but I still canât find the finished 6000 words and itâs doing my nut inâ BUT ANYWAYâ I wanted to talk about a specific part I wrote aboutâ
(Mentions of trauma.)
The rantings of a ex-media studies girly about the psychology behind Loki and his tendency to form imbalanced/unhealthy relationships:
In the MCU, Loki has the habit of forming/falling into âimbalanced relationshipsâ and this is very common for people who have been through trauma regarding a prominent figure in their life (partner, parent, friend, sibling etc). It isnât a conscious decision, nor is it so they put themselves in another bad position, but it is something that unfortunately occurs.
I believe that this is what happens to Loki, over and over. His own self admitted fear of âbeing aloneâ and insecurities regarding his identity and sense of self exasperates his need for something familiar - even if it is toxic or unhealthy. Lokiâs whole life is rooted in lies and deception, half-truths and uncertainty, and all he knows is his âown roleâ (so to speak) amongst his adoptive family. On Asgard, as an Odinson, he perceived himself (and was likely perceived by others) as the âlesser sonâ, âthe outsiderâ, âa shadow living in the shade of Thorâs greatnessâ. He was seen as âthe silver tongueâ, âthe prince of liesâ, âthe God of Mischiefâ, so all he had was these perceptions to go off, he couldnât trust himself when it came to his own identity - especially not after he found out his true heritage.
Loki finds himself falling into similar/adjacent dynamics that he had on Asgard with Odin and Thor. With Thanos, Loki is once again being used as a pawn in a wider (arguably political) game, just as Odin had originally planned for him as a baby. However, there is no love or affection from Thanos, the dynamic is different at its core, but it shares the same ideology. I donât doubt Odin did love Loki and come to see him as his own, however, he was still a bad father and caused a lot of deep rooted issues for Loki.
Then Loki finds himself on Sakaar with the Grandmaster, and whilst the film does a bit of a naff job showing it, he is dangerous. He is the âall powerful rulerâ, and Loki is immediately drawn to him, under the guise of overthrowing him. Perhaps in a way, Loki sees this as a way to prove his own capability, to show that he makes his own choices etc - but it also traps him in the other cycle he finds himself in of âbetrayingâ others and acting selfishly/in a self-sabotaging manner.
Even in the series, Loki bonds with Mobius. Now, whilst this dynamic is different and more genuine, Mobius is still technically the one with all the power (especially in S1/within the TVA walls). Mobius literally could have Loki reset at any moment, and yet, Loki sort of finds himself drawn to him in spite of that. Obviously, as I said, they do form a more genuine bond, but once again it is born from a place of imbalance and bargaining.
I think Loki is drawn to these types of relationships and people because of two reasons: 1). He strives to be the one to outwit them, to turn the tables and end up being the one who holds the power and 2). Because he subconsciously finds it familiar territory and in a âcomfortableâ, twisted way. (Now, donât get my use of âcomfortableâ confused, I use it loosely. I use it in terms of âI know this dynamic, Iâve been here before, itâs familiarâ not that he is content with it).
Itâs a similar premise as someone who has been in a toxic relationship/situation/home. Unfortunately, these psychological cycles can be common amongst victims - and that isnât their fault at all (been there bestie). Itâs something manipulators are able to detect in them and use to their advantage. This is something Loki even does himself because he too is a manipulator. Loki is equipped with everything from what he has been through. His traits were learnt/honed over centuries of observing, enduring, analysing and internalising.
Loki mirrors people that have influenced him in some way, which I also think is a survival instinct. Hela said to Loki in regard to Odin: âYou sound like him.â Whilst it couldâve been a jab, which I think is unlikely considering Hela had no clue who Loki was, I see this as an astute observation. Even in Thor 1, Loki declares that Thor isnât ready to be King, stating the same issues Odin has with his son: âHeâs arrogant, heâs reckless, heâs dangerous! Is that what Asgard needs from its King?â The way he speaks here sounds incredibly wise and knowledgeable, even when he himself isnât exactly âreadyâ to be King either - although, I would argue that he was the better choice even at this stage of his arc if he hadnât had found out the truth about his heritage and had guidance from Frigga. Loki knows diplomacy, strategy and logic are important when being a ruler. How? Because of what he has seen from Odin.
In âAvengersâ, Loki sounds more like a dictator, more like Thanos (and arguable perhaps how Odin sounded once upon a time too). He sounds like he believes what he says is right, that his word is law - just as Thanos did. However, it is far more nuanced and âroyalâ, still showcasing those traits he took from Odin. He sees his attempt to rule over Midgard as a kindness, a way to give mortals a purpose - maybe in turn attempting to find his own too. His whole speech in Germany, to me, is a reflection of his character and his story. Itâs projection at its finest.
Loki both detests and looks up to these figures. They are what he believes he should be for whatever reasons he has - insecurity, identity, the need for power and control. Iâm not saying that I think he actively wants to be like Odin or Thanos or The Grandmaster, but I think he knows how much control people like them have, and he feels if he achieves that same level of power, he can find some semblance of control in a life where he has quite often felt like he didnât have much of it.
Loki is both simultaneously trying to break the cycle whilst finding himself continuously trapped in it. Thereâs a constant tug of war within him with his desires and his needs. He unintentionally sets himself up to fail, because he knows deep down he doesnât want to be like them. In the series, we see this far more clearly with He Who Remains. HWR, to me, is Loki looking at a mirror of what he couldâve become: older than he looks, tired, alone, thinking he was the good guy but also knowing he was the villain in others storiesâŚ
It hit me specifically with this quote from He Who Remains: âOh, Iâve been dubbed many names by many people⌠A ruler, a conquerer, He Who Remains⌠a jerk. But itâs not as simple as a name.â
On the sacred timeline, Loki had been many of those things - successfully or not. Even in S1 EP2 Miss Minutes specifically called Loki âa jerkâ. Seeing HWR is what truly made TVA Loki change his trajectory, it was the last nail in the coffin from everything he had felt and learnt from Sylvie, Mobius and the experience with the TVA.
By the end of Thor Ragnarok, Loki chose to break the cycle, just as he broke the cycle in the series. However, on the scared timeline, that Loki didnât get the chance to fully embrace this newfound âfreedomâ. And even in the series, Lokiâs freedom ended up trapping him once again regardless, but this time for good - for something far greater than himself.
Lokiâs story is very reflective of those who have gone through traumatic events, his traits can be seen through the lens of survival instincts and, of course, self-preservation: âI donât enjoy hurting people. I do it because I have to- because Iâve had to.â Loki is very self-aware, but I donât think even he fully understands just how deep the issues and trauma he carries goes. He had a very âget them before they get youâ mentality for most of the movies arc.
âThey fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had. And add some extra, just for you.â
Anywaysâ Yeah, this was probably all over the place cause it really was just a rant. đ But yaâll get what Iâm trying to say lmao. This is all just my own take/opinion. I doubt Iâm the first to ever point this out either, just wanted to rant about it bc I find it fascinating. Also yes, speaking from experience here too with the dynamics talk!
I like this a lot, and I suspect Thanos actually saw this tendency in Loki right away and used it to his benefit. We don't actually know what their dealings together were like, as much fannish speculation as there's been over the years, but we know Thanos had Loki scared shitless, and he also--at least through the Other--mocked Loki's stated goal to conquer Midgard: "Your ambition is little, born of childish need." To me, that has a bit of a disapproving-father tone to it. I also see it as somewhat relevant that he has that whole Children of Thanos thing going on with the Black Order, Gamora, and Nebula--there is no particular reason to think he genuinely contemplated adopting Loki, but I think it's fair to say Thanos has a whole weird abusive-father thing going on with the people he uses as children and pawns and some of that may well have affected his treatment of Loki.
There's also a really interesting bit in the Legends episode about Loki where they overlay Loki's IW death scene with Ebony Maw's monologue to the Asgardians from slightly earlier, such that you can actually watch Loki's neck break to Ebony Maw saying "Even in death you have become Children of Thanos," which probably does not actually mean anything but I do think it's extremely interesting.
I also think the mention of Mobius here is pretty important, and it bothers me that people are so willing to gloss over this aspect of their relationship just because, like, they're cute together. I don't ship them, although that's because of some of the shippers rather than a problem with the ship itself, and I feel like it makes their dynamics a lot crunchier and more interesting to recognize these difficult parts than to ignore them.
Anyway yes this is cool meta about cycles of toxicity and abuse, and Odin is lucky that he got to peace out and never deal with how he fucked up his kids.
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Turning this into its own post because it took too long not to, the general question being "why does Loki look that bad when he comes through the portal in Avengers?" and my general interpretation, formed in part due to a lot of other Tumblr posts, is that it's because of things done to him shortly before he went through the portal, but the more general-audience interpretation seems to be that it's from the portal travel itself.
so I scoured other sources trying to figure out what, exactly, the intent was with these opening Loki scenes and for the most part they don't say anything. The screenplay I found doesn't say a thing about how haggard he looks:
The newer Avengers novelization, adapted by Alex Irvine, similarly doesn't say anything about Loki looking sick, although it does have one interesting detail:
Something overloaded, and a wave of energy rolled out from it, flashing across the skin of Fury, Hawkeye, and the assembled scientists. They flinched, but they also wanted to see what was going on...
When the energy faded, a man was left on the platform. He was on one knee with his head tucked into his chest, as if riding out a storm [emphasis mine]. In the silence, they approached him. The energy blast had scattered equipment and materials across the floor. The man looked up at them and smiled as he stood. He was not a large man, not remarkable in any particular way. He had long black hair and wore black leather clothing, similar to what Fury was wearing. However, he wasn't a SHIELD agent. Fury didn't know where he had come from.
Also, the stranger held a kind of spear in his right hand. Set into its head, a gem glowed the same icy blue as the energy that had spilled from the Tesseract.
"Sir," Fury called as armed SHIELD agents closed nearer, "please put down the spear."
The man looked at the scepter as if he had only just noticed he had it. Then, slowly, he looked back up at Fury, and a vicious smile spread across his face.
The art book describes the scene like this:
And it shows this concept art of Loki looking even nastier, alongside a frame from the film of Loki looking...still pretty sick:
The art book does actually reference the scene I was initially reblogging:
So in the art book we have Loki's "voice betraying audible strain" although that could be from unease/impatience considering the rest of that sentence is "as dark energy continues to build in the chamber," and then we actually do get "Barton helps a visibly weakened Loki into the back of the truck," which I think shows up literally nowhere except the film itself and this one description here. The thing that bugs me is that nowhere do they actually say why Loki is visibly weakened (it sure wasn't from very easily fighting off a few humans) or why concept art and the finished film both showed Loki looking pretty awful, although in different ways and to different degrees, when he first came through the portal.
There's maybe a clue here in the reference to dark energy, but you'd need another book entirely to get more info on that. Loki does say something to Thor about how Odin must have had to conjure an incredible amount of dark energy to send him to Earth, and the TDW prelude comic, which I think is still canon, adds that doing so took a massive physical toll on both Odin and Thor, such that Thor arrived unconscious. So if we're supposed to assume that Loki's use of the Tesseract also involved dark energy, then that maybe sort of implies he's so worn out purely from the journey--but it seems pretty ridiculous that you need, like, one and a half sources outside the actual film to know about that.
(interestingly, the art book also refers to dark energy in relation to Loki's possession of Clint, implying at the time that the scepter and Tesseract were meant to be related and nobody had any idea about the Infinity Stones, because that was retconned later...so it's also safe to say dark energy is just kinda whatever you want it to be.)
the art book has a couple other interesting things to say: "Loki is a pawn in a much larger game, manipulated by forces far more interested in the Tesseract's vast and heretofore untapped potential." some of what Tom's said in interviews about Loki's missing time between movies is echoed here too:
The original Avengers novelization, which I'm pretty sure is not technically considered canon, explicitly takes the stance that Loki is wrecked from portal travel:
(If you're thinking, hey, this looks interesting, perhaps it is a more nuanced take on Loki's motivations? It is not. Loki gets this one instance of mild sympathy from the narrator and then he's just a smirking, mustache-twirling Bad Guy.)
So all that to say...there is not a lot explaining what was meant by these scenes of Loki seeming genuinely ill after coming out of the portal, at least not from what I would consider to be truly reliable sources, but I have to very grudgingly admit that it does seem like the intent was probably just that he was in terrible shape because, somehow, the journey there by Tesseract through an unstable portal was that hard, because of reasons.
but here's the thing, the other interpretation makes at least as much sense, especially considering we actually have the one scene of the Other threatening and hurting him onscreen, which these extratextual sources all either skip over entirely or misrepresent. And--okay, I know I'm reaching here, because I could rant for days about how the What If writers don't know shit about canon, so it's hardly fair of me to use a What If plot point to back up an interpretation, but, Captain Carter somehow came through the same portal into the PEGASUS facility in a different timeline and she was completely fine. so there is also that. I would be perfectly, spitefully happy to use the What If writers' sloppiness as my own loophole in finding evidence for the interpretation I like.
The Politics of Loki: The Revolutionary vs The Reformist and the Corrupt System
In this post, I will breakdown the politics of the âLokiâ show, touching on the systemic issues of the TVA, the political ideologies and a general analysis of the narrative and its characters. Please note that this is my own personal interpretation and analysis.
âThe TVA is the problem. It's broken, it's rotten.â - Sylvie
âBurn it down, easy. Annihilating is easy. Razing things to the ground is easy. Trying to fix what's broken is hard. Hope is hard.â - Loki
âThe system is violenceâ is a common phrase when it comes to the sociological concept of structural violence. In our world, itâs most commonly used in reference to racism, classism and sexism, but also in war and policing (and many other forms of violence). Within the world of the MCU and the âLokiâ show⌠It is used to explore the morals and ethics of the TVA, He Who Remains and Sylvie & Loki.
The TVA are portrayed as a fascist organisation, and its agents are operating under a lie from their dictator â He Who Remains. The people who live and breathe the TVA and its mission are victims. They were stolen from their lives, had their memories wiped blank and were put in a system that engaged in violence under the guise of âfor the greater goodâ⌠Arguably, they were groomed. Anyone who discovered the truth or had doubts were punished â asking questions was heavily discouraged and viewed as a form of blasphemy against the Time Keepers. Hunter C-20 was an example of this corruption. The workers are fed propaganda, and are lead to believe that they are âthe good guysâ.
Even when we take a look at the material the agents saw daily within the TVA, we see rules that are there to discourage them from âchit chattingâ and âless meetings, more productivityâ (because talking creates discussion and discussion can create questions), and limiting their breaks/pie to â1 slice per weekâ and how âbartering for extra tokens is forbiddenâ. Itâs small forms of control, to keep them in line.
The âverify through deletionâ and âalways watchingâ tells us the most about how the TVA operates.
The TVA uses surveillance as a form of control, monitoring its agents, the timelines and variants to maintain power. It encourages the agents to âstay in lineâ and self-police themselves, also creating an environment in which people are less likely to question the system/the Time Keepers. There are many forms of surveillance, from literal CCTV and data to the concepts of religion.
The TVA uses both.
The Time Keepers are seen as these âall-seeingâ Gods, saviours of the multiverse and looked up to by the agents â Ravonna Renslayer is an example of this belief, and even when the truth of the Time Keepers is revealed, she still remains staunch in the mission the represented. Renslayer reminds Mobius that the Time Keepers are âalways watchingâ. Knowing you are being watched is not an inherently comfortable feeling for most people, so when Renslayer says this, it isnât a comfort, itâs a warning â a reminder to Mobius of his place in the system. The agents even believe that the Time Keepers created them! The Time Keepers are their âGodâ/âCreatorâ. Even calling the main timeline âThe Sacred Timelineâ is a religious allegory. The story told to the agents (and variants) about why the TVA was created is there to instil fear and cooperation. But also, the TVA/Time Keepers make the agents feel special, like they are saving and protecting the Sacred Timeline â they give the agents a God Complex.
The TVA treats variants as criminals. It mirrors how the real world treats prisoners/criminals (innocent or guilty). When Loki is arrested for his âcrimes against the Sacred Timelineâ, B-15 even says something that is reminiscent of what a police officer would say to a detainee: âOn behalf of the Time Variance Authority, I hereby arrest you for crimes against the Sacred Timeline. Hands up. Youâre coming with us.â When Loki questions them, B-15 tells him: âLast chance variant.â As soon as the Minutemen step through the time door, they have their weapons raised, and when Loki tries to evade, he is immediately met with violence and collared like an animal.
In Season 2, we are introduced to the fact that the TVA has literal torture devices⌠We learn in Season 1 about the Void and how itâs essentially just a giant, free-roaming, (mostly) inescapable prison that banks on a giant cloud monster called âAliothâ, that is described as a âguard-dogâ, to eat them⌠(Or that the variants will likely kill each other.)
Variants are just living their lives, unaware of the system and its influence, yet they are treated like criminals/problems that need to be dealt with â by erasure from existence.
Loki is then brought in, no one answers his questions, offers him any personable explanation⌠They simply log him, strip him (removing any visual evidence of his identity and to give him a lack of autonomy) and process him. Once he is processed, he is given a trial. He has a chance to âplead his caseâ, despite no one telling him what exactly his crime was. Judge Renslayer âhears him outâ and rules to reset him. It had nothing to do with the fact Lokiâs defence was weak or unprepared, it has everything to do with the fact that this is how they operate at the TVA. Everyone is âverified through deletionâ, the trial is set up so every variant that comes through those halls is ruled âguiltyâ. The trial is a farce, smoke and mirrors, to give the illusion to the agents that what they are doing is just and âprotecting societyâ â a mock court. The justice system within the TVA is set up to fail the variants. Itâs similar to how the automat is filled with only keylime pie. It gives the illusion of choice to the agents.
Mobius âsavesâ Loki from being reset, wanting to ârecruitâ him to track down one of his variants (which we later find out is Sylvie). Mobius interrogates Loki, his goal is to break him down and get him to a point where he agrees to help the TVA â itâs a similar fashion to police interrogations that last hours to try and get a confession out of suspects, except Mobius here is using Lokiâs file and role on the Sacred Timeline (according to the Time Keepers) to strip him down and make him more agreeable. (Since I began writing this, another blog has made a post that goes into more detail about this scene, so Iâll save my breath and encourage you to read @khapikat222âs own analysis of this scene!)
Mobius holds Lokiâs life in his hands, he can have him reset at any moment⌠Of course Loki is going to agree to help them â and, of course, use the situation to his advantage by trying to gain the upper hand against his captors⌠But thatâs another topic that Iâve discussed here and here!
âThe first and most oppressive lie ever uttered was the song of freedom. For nearly every living thing, choice breeds shame and uncertainty and regret.â - Loki
Then we have Sylvie. Sylvie is a character who is rooted in anti-establishment politics and believes everyone should have free will. Sylvie is another victim of the system. After being captured and taken by the TVA as a child, she decided then she would make it her mission to destroy the organisation that stole her life.
Sylvie isnât a hero, she isnât a villain, sheâs a revolutionary.
Sylvie grew up in apocalypses, having to raise, protect and teach herself. She grew up surrounded by death, only ever able to see the destruction of things and that shaped her own belief system. Sylvie believes that the only way to fight violence is with violence, because thatâs what sheâs had to live through and do to survive.
The TVA committed an act of violence on Sylvieâs life when they stole her from her timeline as a child. It wasnât personal. It wasnât targeted. It was systemic. And Sylvie, from her own experience, quickly understood that the only way to defeat violence is with violence.
Loki stated himself that he âdoesnât enjoy hurting peopleâ and does it âbecause he has toâ, to maintain the âillusionâ. This quote can be used as a heavy bit of foreshadowing for the plot and characters of the show. Mobius doesnât enjoy hurting people, but he does it because he has to because thatâs what the Time Keepers (He Who Remains) has demanded of him. Sylvie doesnât enjoy hurting people but does it because she has to, to survive and fight back against a system that was designed to oppress her. We know Sylvie doesnât enjoy hurting people as during Season 2 Episode 3, whilst attempting to kill Victor Timely, Sylvie says: âDo you think I want to do this? Any of this?â And then later says that she âcanât let him liveâ. In the end, Sylvie spares Victor. Itâs clearly a difficult decision for her, going against everything that she believes, but she does it. She holds back.
Loki has used violence in the past as a way to assert control (both over his own life and others around him). For example, trying to destroy Jotunheim, bringing an army to Earth and trying to subjugate its people. Loki is certainly not a âpeaceful protestâ kind of guy. However, Loki has learnt from his past that violence only seems to breed more violence, continuing the cycle. He has heard the (sanitised/biased) stories of Asgard and the wars across the Nine Realms and how the war may have been over, but the effects of it still remain. He has witnessed his own actions and the destruction it caused for a city, himself and his family. Loki was also stuck in a system on the Sacred Timeline, he understands it.
By the time Loki and Sylvie reach He Who Remains, Loki starts having doubts. Loki is willing to believe He Who Remains and factor in his reasoning for the TVAâs creation because Loki has always had to factor in everyone elseâs moves on the chessboard. Sylvie, whilst she did spend years on her plan, is more impulsive when it comes to situations. Now, that isnât to say Loki doesnât have impulses â for example, his attempt to destroy Jotunheim felt more impulsive than planned due to the fact his emotions were erratic after finding out the truth of his heritage. However, Sylvie has such a strong belief that the system must be completely destroyed, and the dictator must be removed, that she is not willing to factor in the consequences. She is headstrong, independent and doesnât trust anyone else but herself. Iâd argue that Loki, whilst claiming to be independent, is very dependant on others, especially when it comes to his sense of self and his identity.
Plus, Loki has tried to be in the role of the dictator, he had ruled Asgard for a short time in âThorâ, and his attempt to subjugate Earth under the guise of liberation during âThe Avengersâ, whereas Sylvie has never had the chance to have the power to be in that position. Loki benefitted from hierarchical rule as a Prince of Asgard with his upbringing being in a palace and the title of âGod of Mischiefâ, and he has been in a position that let him believe he was âaboveâ other beings â like mortals. Unlike Sylvie, Loki has experienced both sides of the coin with privilege and oppression. He benefited from the system, whilst also becoming a victim to it. This contributes as to why Loki can see how the system could be changed rather than simply torn down.
He Who Remains even tells Sylvie and Loki: âYou may hate the dictator, but something... far worse is gonna fill that void if you depose of him.â He frames himself and the TVA as the âlesser of two evilsâ, which is typically something youâll hear a lot when it comes to politics/governments and their leaders. This sort of rhetoric is essentially telling people not to hope or want for more, for something better. It is phrased as an ultimatum, yet, doesnât leave the decider with much choice. Once again, itâs control via fear: fear of the unknown, of something worse, of something new. He Who Remains even tries to tempt the pair into taking over the system, using power as a means of persuasion.
Upon seeing the vastness of the multiverse and the potential consequences that could arise if he or Sylvie make the âwrongâ choice, Loki is hesitant to finish the mission. He entered the TVA as a prisoner, but also an opportunist as he planned to attempt to âoverthrow the Time Keepersâ, and by the end of S1, Loki evolves and takes in the scale of it all â âit isnât about youâ, as Sylvie told him in their first meeting. Sylvie, on the other hand, remained the same and held fast to her own mission. It was about her, yes, but it was also about the billions of people whose lives had been stolen or dictated by the TVA.
Loki is a reformist and Sylvie is a revolutionary. Both share the same goal of change, but want to reach said goal by different means.
Loki would prefer to transform the existing system, and in Season 2 opts for dismantling and rebuilding the TVA, because thatâs what heâs witnessed from Asgard and Odin (or at least, thatâs how it was framed to Asgardâs people in their history). Loki knows how it feels to have been lied to, to have your whole life be a lie, so he can sympathise with the TVA agents in a way that Sylvie struggles with. Sylvie knows the agents were variants, and whilst she can understand that they are victims themselves, she struggles to get past the mental barrier of how she views them being the enemy.
Sylvie told Loki: âit would be easier to burn this place down and start from scratch.â Thatâs revolutionary thinking. This is Sylvie stating her stance on what she thinks should happen to the structure that He Who Remains built. Again later on, she also told Loki âthat sometimes it's okay to destroy something.â Sylvie didnât want to simply âreplace one nightmare with anotherâ, she wanted to do a complete overhaul rather than just swap leaders â she rejects the existing system.
However, Loki tells Sylvie: âSure. Burn it down. Easy. Annihilating is easy. Razing things to the ground is easy. Trying to fix what's broken is hard. Hope is hard.â This falls more in line with reformist ideology. Loki wants to change what already exists, something slower and more gradual with, ideally, little to no violence. Loki has tried using force and violence in the past to achieve his goal and it hasnât worked for him. He even makes a dry comment to Sylvie about her machete, the weapon that killed He Who Remains: âWell, your machete hasn't solved any problems thus far.â
Loki doesnât think violence is the answer. Sylvie does. However, both characters are eventually willing to try and understand each other and form a middle ground. Sylvie is willing to let Loki try and fix the Loom with the help of Victor Timely, and she is willing to put aside her own views for the sake of others. It isnât easy nor is it smooth or without its clashes, but she tries. However, ultimately, she still believes that the TVA is ârottenâ and âbrokenâ, and that it needs to be dismantled.
To Sylvie, Loki is compromising with the system. She met Loki when he was dressed in TVA uniform, and then after the Citadel when he finds her on her branch, he is still wearing the uniform â just no longer with the âvariantâ label on his jacket. Sylvie sees Loki as part of the problem, she sees him as a sympathiser/enabler. Loki is still playing He Who Remainsâ game, existing within the rules of the system he set up, even after Sylvie freed the timelines. Sylvie sees trying to reform the TVA as repackaging the same product and selling it as something brand new and better.
However, by the end of Season 2, Lokiâs stance and approach has shifted. At the start of the series, Loki states he believes that âfreedom is a lieâ, and that âchoice breeds uncertaintyâ, but his actions in the shows finale represents his change in perspective. It can be debated whether Loki originally even truly believed that sentiment or not, but either way, his actions regarding freedom have changed. Loki realises that trying to fix a system that was always set up to fail its victims, a system that exists under He Who Remainsâ rules and logic⌠Itâs never going to work. Thereâs no room for anything other than âright or wrongâ in the system, and that isnât true free will. So⌠Loki does what Sylvie had been telling him from the start⌠He dismantled the system by destroying the Loom.
The TVA was created to keep the âSacred Timelineâ in check, to prune branches, to prevent true choice and free will. The Loom was the last part of He Who Remainsâ structure/system that could lead to the TVA, as an entire organisation, reverting back to their old ways. Loki removed that possibility from the equation. Rogue agents who believed in the original mission may still remain (as shown in Deadpool & Wolverine), but the organisation as a whole cannot revert back so easily to their old practices because the whole reason they were pruning branches to begin with (keeping the Sacred Timeline/Temporal Loom stable) has been taken away.
Whilst the new TVA has changed their mission and now keep the branches safe, allowing people free will and choice, it is still a system that can be weaponised â like any system. However, now it has a better chance at being something better, with the dictator and his rules gone, it can now function as something closer to a true democratic society, not like the illusion He Who Remains created. The people of the TVA are the protectors of the multiverse, taking on the role that they believed the Time Keepers had, focusing on finding actually dangerous variants who threaten it all and appropriately dealing with them â instead of any old variant who created an innocent, tiny deviation unknowingly and treating them like a criminal.
Loki and Sylvie are both complex, nuanced characters that are capable of making wrong and right decisions. They are both capable of doing better and taking time to understand the other, to see both the small and big picture. Their dynamic was never going to be smooth sailing, they are both intrinsically different when it comes to power and control. Loki originally wanted to overthrow the Time Keepers and take their place, whereas Sylvie wanted to kill them and burn down their system. Loki wears his God status with pride, whilst Sylvie denounces her own. Loki accepts the hierarchy and has used it to his advantage in the past, whilst Sylvie challenges it and defies itâŚ
Sylvie: âSounds like, whatever we do, weâre playing God.â
Loki: âWe are Gods.â
In the end, the show isnât asking the audience to pick a side, to choose between reformism or revolutionism, itâs asking the audience to understand the arguments and explore the tension between the two characters â âwhyâ and âhowâ these two characters got to where they are in their respective beliefs. Itâs about change and how no-one is âtruly goodâ or âtruly badâ, but it makes us question the morality and ethics of people and the systems they are a part of. It gives the hope that we can wish for better, and not settle for a system that ultimately harms us.