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I don’t think we can really use this argument (not in this case). Antis know that Larries connect that song to Louis, not Gemma. And therefore they’ll see it as a Larry sign even if they don’t believe the song is about Louis. And even as Larries we must admit, that no Larrie would bring that sign if the song was really about Gemma

Boo. Don’t bring logic into this.

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I cannot not think of that, this whole debate started, because antis also think Sweet Creature is about Louis.

They kept saying for years it's about Gemma, and there was no confused discussion, why Louis could have been angry at a Gemma sign. Everyone came to the conclusion immediately, that it's about Louis. Nobody questioned how and why Gemma sold out MSG. There was no confusion at all.

You are simply blind.

what about together together???

and the pictures with the number 1 award on the same day???

That happened July 8th.

So I guess Harry’s “I love Louis now and forever” set list at his performance at The Meltdown Festival on June 17th means nothing.

And we should ignore June 13 when H interacted with a fan whose sign read “Committed for 16 years. Any advice?” And went out of his way to go back to them and grabbed their Only The Brave pride flag.

Don’t bring up Louis’ outro songs during this tour, that night after night after night, from the beginning of tour until now, clearly reference Harry, Larry, the stunts, etc. Ignore those. Three dozen times isn’t nearly enough to be anything more than a coincidence.

And we should definitely forget the craziness at the end of May with Harry presenting the award to the lead singer of Radiohead, and talking about losing his virginity to Radiohead, and then changing his outro song (after eight shows of being something else) to the piece of music used in The Notebook (his favorite movie) when Noah and Allie have sex for the first time. Oh, and also forget that this exact Chopin piece was the inspiration for the song Exit Music that Radiohead wrote for the film Romeo + Juliet. A film about teen lovers who are kept apart from each other. But, yeah, obviously just coincidence.

Yeah that’s all behind them. Clearly they must have broken up because Louis angrily gestured to someone waving around an open flame in the packed pit at MSG a sign that referenced Larry (which, BTW, I thought you were all so sure Sweet Creature was about Gemma. But, I guess that only counts when larries say it’s about Larry. When antis say it’s about Larry, it’s about Larry. Got it).

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You are simply blind.

what about together together???

and the pictures with the number 1 award on the same day???

The Beaches just did a promo interview that I found interesting where they mentioned they saw Louis on Day 1 of them being on tour with him and haven't been able to talk to him since. https://www.instagram.com/p/DavPbulilQy/

As someone who isn't super in the know on how these things work I just find it fascinating and would love to better understand what tour life is really like. Before I joined the fandom, I naively assumed everyone hung out and it was just this big social thing backstage! All getting to know each other, eating their catered meals together, etc. But the more I follow Louis' tour this time around, I'm not getting that impression at all. I've also noticed every opener only posting one picture with Louis on their last night touring with him. So he obviously has some boundaries in place. We know he's filmed some backstage content with the band lads, which I assume they film between soundcheck and his show time but do we think he just keep to himself or his tight circle outside of the show these days?

I suppose the tl:dr of my curiosity can be summarized as: do artists and their opening acts really not interact all that much behind the scenes?

@hoovesandfloorpaws @louisisalarrie this is yet another question you can answer much better than I can!

a big one is whether they share a dressing room and/or a tourbus or accomodation (hotels). you’d also think the smaller the production, the more the bands/artists hang out, but it really also depends on how social the people on the band are; how busy they are, etc.

i’ve been on tours with the support acts where the main act barely spoke to us at all. i’ve been on tours with main acts where the support acts and the main one became thick as thieves and remain friends to this day.

i’ve been on tour where artists started out as friends and ended the tour on no-speaking terms. or tours where there was no animosity, but the main act just was so busy and overworked, that they literally had no time and energy at all to even talk to their support acts outside of a hello and goodbye.

tours is where friendships can start (and they can also end…) or they don’t.

with a production of Louis’ size, the main act probably only sees the (1st and 2nd) support act in the catering area and maybe when you enter it leave the tour bus and on such occasions. louis’ schedule (time-wise) will differ quite a lot from the other bands’, but obviously he could make an effort to go and talk to them, or they could go watch his soundcheck or talk to him in the catering area — what you usually don’t do as a support act is go into the dressing room of the main act uninvited, that’s a huge no-no and safety/theft/etc. risk. it’s just etiquette in general as a support act to respect the space of the main artist and don’t ‘bother’ them at busy times, such as 10 mins before their show or during soundcheck or right after the show (of course not ALL support acts respect that etiquette, but they should) and wait for the main act to approach them first. it’s honestly a lot about mutual respect and reconising that the main artist is taking you under their wing. i mean the whole touring party of the support acts with that. you’re a guest in their ‘house’ and you should act accordingly.

as for Louis and The Beaches… a big factor: Louis is a world famous closeted man (practically) married to another world famous gay person. that’s all i can say.

another factor is their different schedules. louis often has some promo to do during the day (for example those fan radio interviews) and his backstage get in and soundcheck times are different than those of the support act. often the main act eats while the support act soundchecks, so it the catering area is the only place where those 2 would hang out, you miss each other. IF louis eats in the catering area some artists either take their food into their dressing room or they pick from the menu and their PA (Oli lol) brings it to them to the dressing room. there’s a lot of main artists who don’t leave their dressing room at all aside from soundcheck and their performance. and not every day on tour is the same. some days you’ll feel more sociable than on other days. also as the main artist, louis has the luxury of ordering everyone out of the room if he wants to be alone. his team and band then have to find somewhere else to chill and they will potentially go talk to the support act. Louis doesn’t “have” to.

also Louis is very tight-knit with his travel crew, team, and liveband in general and he seems to really treasure the safe circle of his tour family. to me, it’s understandable that he keeps to himself and his circle most of the time. i’m not saying he definitely has trust issues, i don’t know him personally, but after everything he’s been through i’d understand if he’s very cautious with new people who -for work reasons- have to be where he exists as uninhibited and as much of his true (gay and practically married) self as he gets.

when you’re on tour, you are in your little bubble and a lot of the outer world completely disappears. crew becomes your family. and louis has had the almost same ‘family’ for years now! and louis values his privacy a LOT. the support acts are pleasant visitors, but at the end of the day, they are just that: outsiders.

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The Beaches just did a promo interview that I found interesting where they mentioned they saw Louis on Day 1 of them being on tour with him and haven't been able to talk to him since. https://www.instagram.com/p/DavPbulilQy/

As someone who isn't super in the know on how these things work I just find it fascinating and would love to better understand what tour life is really like. Before I joined the fandom, I naively assumed everyone hung out and it was just this big social thing backstage! All getting to know each other, eating their catered meals together, etc. But the more I follow Louis' tour this time around, I'm not getting that impression at all. I've also noticed every opener only posting one picture with Louis on their last night touring with him. So he obviously has some boundaries in place. We know he's filmed some backstage content with the band lads, which I assume they film between soundcheck and his show time but do we think he just keep to himself or his tight circle outside of the show these days?

I suppose the tl:dr of my curiosity can be summarized as: do artists and their opening acts really not interact all that much behind the scenes?

@hoovesandfloorpaws @louisisalarrie this is yet another question you can answer much better than I can!

a big one is whether they share a dressing room and/or a tourbus or accomodation (hotels). you’d also think the smaller the production, the more the bands/artists hang out, but it really also depends on how social the people on the band are; how busy they are, etc.

i’ve been on tours with the support acts where the main act barely spoke to us at all. i’ve been on tours with main acts where the support acts and the main one became thick as thieves and remain friends to this day.

tours is where friendships can start (and they can also end…) or they don’t.

with a production of Louis’ size, the main act probably only sees the (1st and 2nd) support act in the catering area and maybe when you enter it leave the tour bus and on such occasions. louis’ schedule (time-wise) will differ quite a lot from the other bands’, but obviously he could make an effort to go and talk to them, or they could go watch his soundcheck or talk to him in the catering area — what you usually don’t do as a support act is go into the dressing room of the main act uninvited, that’s a huge no-no and safety/theft/etc. risk. it’s just etiquette in general as a support act to respect the space of the main artist and don’t ‘bother’ them at busy times, such as 10 mins before their show or during soundcheck or right after the show (of course not ALL support acts respect that etiquette, but they should) and wait for the main act to approach them first. it’s honestly a lot about mutual respect and reconising that the main artist is taking you under their wing. i mean the whole touring party of the support acts with that. you’re a guest in their ‘house’ and you should act accordingly.

as for Louis and The Beaches… a big factor: Louis is a world famous closeted man (practically) married to another world famous gay person. that’s all i can say.

another factor is their different schedules. louis often has some promo to do during the day (for example those fan radio interviews) and his backstage get in and soundcheck times are different than those of the support act. often the main act eats while the support act soundchecks, so it the catering area is the only place where those 2 would hang out, you miss each other. IF louis eats in the catering area some artists either take their food into their dressing room or they pick from the menu and their PA (Oli lol) brings it to them to the dressing room. there’s a lot of main artists who don’t leave their dressing room at all aside from soundcheck and their performance. and not every day on tour is the same. some days you’ll feel more sociable than on other days. also as the main artist, louis has the luxury of ordering everyone out of the room if he wants to be alone. his team and band then have to find somewhere else to chill and they will potentially go talk to the support act. Louis doesn’t “have” to.

also Louis is very tight-knit with his travel crew, team, and liveband in general and he seems to really treasure the safe circle of his tour family. to me, it’s understandable that he keeps to himself and his circle most of the time. i’m not saying he definitely has trust issues, i don’t know him personally, but after everything he’s been through i’d understand if he’s very cautious with new people who -for work reasons- have to be where he exists as uninhibited and as much of his true (gay and practically married) self as he gets.

when you’re on tour, you are in your little bubble and a lot of the outer world completely disappears. crew becomes your family. and louis has had the almost same ‘family’ for years now! the support acts are pleasant visitors, but at the end of the day, they are just that: outsiders.

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Anyway any advice to get through the post concert depression? Do you have any advice to try to meet him in Boston?

Oh, I really don’t, love. I barely know Boston. I think fans often wait around the tour buses after the shows and sometimes have luck. I don’t expect Harry to be with him at this point, so you might get lucky that way.

I think focusing on future sadness really steals the joy of your current moments. I don’t have a cure-all for post-concert depression other than to engage with livestreams and people going to future concerts.