English is not my first language, sorry if i make no sense sometimes.
We are The Elysium Collective, a traumagenic + MaDDbased OSDD system of unknown count. Endelic holothere, we are nonhuman in every way possible. Do not refer to us as human in any way. We have psychosis and delusions. Please do not reality check us unless specifically asked /srs
Pro endo, self-diagnosis, contradictory identities. Do what you want as long as it doesn't harm someone unconsentually. Feel free to try to debate us, no promises we'll do it seriously
We have no host and our frequent fronters change quite often
This blog is our personal blog, so don’t expect to have a specific, reoccurring theme. We kinda do whatever most of the time.
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saw a genuinely mega dumbass take so here's a reminder
if you are a traumagenic system/CDD system that supports endos, I love you, you are so appreciated and needed in this community just as much as endos, please NEVER let anti endos tell you that you arent a valid system or that you're harming system communities by loving your plural and system siblings. You are so important and loved here and you are so needed just as much as every other person. Y'all are so strong for dealing with the bullshit thrown at you so often and i feel nobody recognizes it as much as it should be recognized
Happy disability pride month all my fellow alterhumans! I wish a happy disability pride to:
Disabled therians, disabled queer alterhumans, disabled transspecies, disabled holotheres, disabled unlabeled alterhumans, disabled systems, systems, my fellow autistic alterhumans, my fellow physically disabled alterhumans, my fellow mentally ill alterhumans, my fellow alterhumans with stigmatized illnesses both physical and mental, my fellow alterhumans with ME/CFS, and so so so much more.
Unfortunately I ran out of the mental energy to add more to the list rn but if I am missing people from my list please please please lemme know in the comments! Much thanks
Hi everyone, i made this survey in an attempt to take a closer look at the most common syscourse beliefs across different stances. I'd appreciate if you could take this survey and share as well!
Hello! This is my syscourse survey. I am holding this survey in an attempt to compare commonly held beliefs across different syscourse stanc
anyone of any stance can take it, and you don't have to be a system to take it. Even if you don't participate in syscourse and don't use a stance label, i want to hear from you!
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I refuse to allow my identity to be erased by misinformation online.
“Therians don’t actually identify as animals” “Therianthropy is only a spiritual connection” “If you identify as an animal you aren’t an actual Therian”
Some people think that commenting these things are helping our community “find themselves”. They are not. They are actively harming the therian community and its members.
We cannot allow the spread of misinformation like this, unless we want our identities to be watered down and erased to a “connection”.
Hello! I have a question about the plural resources document. Would Elysium happen to know of any services that are similar to Simply Plural's message board? Not the chat feature but the tab on each member where one could leave messages to be read later. It was the main thing we used for in-sys communication because we cannot get in touch with headmates that are away from front. We have been leaving notes for each other but we keep forgetting to check them. It would be very helpful if there was something that could give notifications of unread messages upon front change. A feature that would be helpful but not required would be the ability to mark messages as read only when the headmate they're addressed to is fronting. Many thanks!
hi! thanks for reaching out!
Sadly, i can't find something that can do this :( posting this ask in case someone else would know! the best thing i could reccomend is to put daily reminders to check wherever you put the notes
sorry i can't help!
Fellow MaDD based systems, is your headspace influenced by daydreaming? Do you ever just, daydream into the headspace living the body on some kind of autopilot?
This is a question for Maladaptive Daydreamers.
Yes. That's pretty much just how our system works.
yes, that's pretty much how we work. the main "house" of the headspace is pretty stable, but everything outside of it is everchanging depending on our daydreams.
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it varies a lot depending on who's present and fronting! usually, the fronter is in a room with a couch, pillow fort, and some shelves. that room is in a house where other alters reside. outside of the house, it's free for all! it's usually a forest or mountains, but it changes wildly for some of us. for Arthur, the house is on the bottom of the ocean. for thalos, it's on the top of a frosty mountain, surrounded by clouds.
this exterior is partly influenced by our daydreaming (we have MaDD) and is usually where they take place.
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Hello! Let me try and explain some since you seem to want to understand us. But first yes I will admit putting physical therian tags on this post has been hurtful, as it can come across as going into our space just to say you don't understand us unless it is specified you *want* to learn. I hope this response, and from others can help you understand!/lh /gen /nm
Beware this post will be long, but it is long because I care deeply for this subject. The cut is in place for this reason. So basically welcome to;
On physical alterhumanity, animal-identity lens.
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As implied by said title this is mainly focusing on nonhuman animal identities, it is important to remember that physical fiction-, fact- and fait- identities are also a valid, and real part of the larger alterhuman community. I use animalistic nonhuman language to the focus on physical therians and holotheres (which is mainly composed of animalfolk)
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1) So firstly I think it is important to mention that the confusion between it being a specified mental illness, delusion or neither, *CAN* and frequently *IS* used to disregard *all* alter- and nonhuman experiences. Delusions are not limited to perceptions of "physical reality". Some consider it delusional to have a belief in past lives, to believe in the multiverse, and to be atypically human or nonhuman at all. For example spiritual psychosis is a frequently discussed phenomenon. And that anti-theists exist to begin with.
Thus it is unfair to apply this idea of "reality" to only *one* out of many groups. Also considering *all* beliefs can be misused, it does not make an identity false./ndir
2) A mental illness, by definition *must* be clinically significant and disturb an individuals cognition, emotional regulation or behaviour. They are often distressing and impairing (as in a disability)
Source World Health Organisation (WHO), "Mental disorders", last changed 30th September 2025 : https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mental-disorders
Many physical therians, holotheres and other alterhumans are not inherently hindered by their experiences. Rather, at least in my case, most of my distress surrounding my nonhumanity (physical and not) comes from external individuals not acknowledging it and it not being understood. Especially since many "unconventional" outlets and expressions of nonhumanity is done by physical nonhumans.
3) "Even" if a physical therian or holotheres experience *is* caused by delusion or tied to a mental illness such as clinical zoanthropy, that does not make it invalid nor less real. Therianthropy and species identity can on any level be caused by these factors. For example; an individual whose therianthropy arose from being autistic and "not fitting in".
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Now onto why someone may experience identity as they do, Firstly I'd like to say that just as with emotional, psychological and spiritual therianthropy can physical have literally countless causes and explanations, these are merely a few I've seen frequently.
Another important disclaimer is that physical therianthropy, and alterhuman (identify as/with) terms can generally be divided into two subcategories; metaphorical and literal. Many individuals experience both, some one, some are fluid etc. As you (reader) will see are some explanations used for both group.
And I cannot stretch this enough: This isn't an exhaustive list, and many individuals do not label how or why their identity is. They simply *are*.
Here are some metaphorical/figurative explanations:
1 - An individual perceives or wishes for their body to be perceived as that of their internal identity.
2 - An individual considers their body to be an extension of an internal facet of their identity, for example their soul or mind. Think "I am x psychologically/spiritually and this body is mine, thus this body is also that of x". This fits under the label concothere(source)
3 - An individual feels as if their true body is hidden by some sort of veil, for example that they have their "true" physical form on the astral realm or that their spirit has the shape of their 'type. The terminology "vessel" is common among this experience.
⚠️ Can also be literal, slightly different examples given
4 - An individual experiences a disconnect from one's externally perceived body, and feels that due to something their body is thus not "really theirs".
5 - An individual has or believes to have the genes of an altertype, but that they are not expressed. See methylated(link)
⚠️ Can also be literal
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Here are some "literal" explanations:
1 - An individual believing or feeling they have been experimented on somehow. Whether originally being theriform and then made to look human, or being human but somehow made nonhuman in any way.
2 - An individual feels as if their true body is hidden by some sort of veil, for example that there is a spell overlaying one's body. The terminology "vessel" is common amongst this experience.
⚠️ Can also be metaphorical/figurative, slightly different examples given
3 - An individual experiencing bodily shifts, whether it is a tangible change or something that otherwise affects how one's body is perceived and or experienced. For the former group; physical shifts, whether internal or external. Also may vary in amount of change. For the latter, experiences like sensory shifts can be experienced through a physical lens. For example having bettered senses of smell due to being, in any way, physically canine.
4 - An individual having certain physical experiences that one associates with or thinks to be caused by an altertype. Personal example; I am extremely uncomfortable standing upright (on my hind legs) and easily gets dizzy when standing. I have looked into this time and time again but doctors have found nothing wrong, leading me to associate it with my werewolfhood and being a sanguine vampire.
5 - An individual having physical characteristics considered "abnormal" by humanity but reflects that of an altertype. This is also covered undered deviae(link)
6 - Similar to point 4, An individual having behaviours that materialize in a way that affects one's body, pointing towards physical alterhumanity. For example; experiencing heat cycles, reacting from lack of hibernation or reaction to stimuli/emotions.
7 - An individual being transspecies and going through physical or medical transition. Which alters the appearence to be more nonhuman, hence why someone would "literally" identify as having a body that is in some way and to some extent nonhuman.
8 - An individual having the genes of an altertype, but that they are not expressed. See methylated(link)
⚠️ Can also be literal, slightly different examples given
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Finally, here is some explained by me, as a transspecies, biomorpher holotheric werewolf.
I know I have always been nonhuman, on all levels, hence being a holothere. My mind works differently, my beliefs don't align with that expected of "normal" humans, and specifically my body does not work in a way that is typical. It is not typical by human standards, but makes sense as a werewolf and cat. As a child I awaited for my first shift into a wolf, and while I do not consider myself a wolfblood anymore, it is still important to me as an anteatype.
I experience sensations, itching under my skin, stretching, fur growing. It is by those means literal, and it is werewolfic in nature. My body yearns to fully physically shift. My senses are sensitive, always, but sometimes more so. I'm extremely sensitive to smell which causes physical reactions.
My body craves raw meat, it craves drinking blood. And without it, I feel lightheaded, and more unstable. I am generally wobbly on my hind legs, I long for living as quadrupedally as I can.
Additionally I wish to physically transition at least to some extent, to feel more comfortable in how I am perceived, and to express myself. All my 'kinity is physical to some extent, whether I identify it physically or not. Simply because I am a creature who likes to express myself outwardly, and through my body.
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Ending note; I hope this helped someone, or was at least an interesting read. I apologize if my language was a bit off at any time, or if I sounded to strongly worded as it was not my intention. It is getting late for me (11:15 pm as of posting), but I wanted to get this out. Any revisions will be mentioned here. I may post the information part of this as a separate post as well. If you have anything to add feel free to reblog this, I love hearing more :3
Anyways have a good timezone critters, beings, things and humans alike. Your distant alterhumanity enthusiast is closing his computer!/silly