Hi Panda! I saw a post mention that the reason why MXTX has LWJ and WWX say they are "husband and wife" is because there's not another noun for married couple in Mandarin. Is that really true?
Hi there! Thatās a topic that was the subject of much controversy and misinformation that spread like wildfire... Iāve seen ExR being accused of pushing an agenda for translating 夫妻 (fuqi) as āhusband and wifeā (ch.112, 119) and people claiming that the proper translation is supposedly the gender-neutral āmarried coupleā. Thatās not how Chinese works, thatās not how translation works. One-to-one correspondences between languages do not exist and words come with a linguistic and cultural context, not from a vacuum.
夫 is āhusbandā, 妻 is āwifeā, together they mean bothĀ āhusband and wifeā and āmarried coupleā. It is extremely common in Chinese to form compound words by juxtaposing or opposing two characters to refer to a broader concept encompassing the individual characters. To quote a few examples, ē¶ęÆ (father+mother) refers toĀ āparentsā, å¤§å° (big+small) means āsizeā, č£č¾± (honour+disgrace) is āreputationā, the list goes on and on.
Having āhusband+wifeā as āmarried coupleā and āfather+motherā as āparentsā is of course heteronormative but itās also a reflection of what society was and still is to this day. New words were coined to refer to same-sex couples such as 夫夫 (fufu, husband+husband) but thatās modern terminology. It might be worthwhile to bring up the fact that 夫夫 is used multiple times by MXTX to refer to Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji outside of the novel itself. Itās on the webnovel frontpage as well as several chapter blurbs:
夫夫ååęå±±äø āThe pair of husbands leave the mountainā (chapter blurb 20)
夫夫åē³ę„åøø, āHusbands eating sweets everydayā, eating sweets is internet slang for public displays of affection. (chapter blurb 116)
These are all written in a humorous and light-hearted way as you can see. This kind of tongue-in-cheek author notes donāt make it in physical copies when novels get published but theyāre representative of the very casual tone full of slang allusions on webnovel platforms where novel recaps sort of sound like shitposts. With that said, I would be remiss not to mention that the blurb of chapter 7 is éøéå«å åēēÆē«å°é妻ļ¼ļ¼ļ¼, āThe overbearing Hanguang-Junās crazy runaway wife???ā. This sounds terribly awkward but itās referencing stereotypical characters in het romances such as the pushy CEO and the young woman who is wary at first but then fall madly in love with him. You know the type. There are plenty of those in novels written by Western authors as well.
While Chinese is not outwardly a particularly gendered language (no grammatical gender with distinct masculine and feminine forms as it is common in many Indo-European languages and other language families), it is a language in which social roles and positions are heavily codified as seen through the use of honorifics and this social divide intersects with male/female differentiation. For instance, there is a number of characters that can be used to signify āto marryā, like the gender-specific 娶 or å« depending on whether the subject is a man or woman, the first character is composed of āå take+ 儳 womanā and the second of ā儳 woman + å®¶ home/familyā. As I mentioned here, marriage was not equal in ancient times as the bride was leaving her family and entering her husbandās household. At the end of the novel, Wei Wuxian effectively marries into the Gusu Lan Sect, thus holding the social position that would traditionally be the wifeās part. What is interesting however is that the story and the main characters deconstruct typical gender roles. As I was saying, the Chinese language itself might not ostensibly gendered but Chinese traditional society certainly was. Thereās a saying that goes ē·č儳ē», āMen plough and women weaveā to describe pastoral life. That should remind you of Wei Wuxianās dream (ch.67, 117), he has no qualms imaging himself as the one working the fields and doing outdoor labour while Lan Wangji stays in their little cottage and does the housekeeping.
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Hi! This is a super small detail, but I was rereading chapter 113 of MDZS and I noticed that when WWX's listening to the rumors about JGY, in one translation, he says "the things they said about me were definitely better than what theyāre saying about Jin GuangYao" while in another he says " the rumours that they spread about me were more malicious than Jin Guangyao.ā Since they have opposite meanings, it was kinda bugging me and I was wondering which meaning is more accurate? Thanks!
Hi there! Excellent question, I love scrutinising these kind of small details!
āWell, as it turns out, what they spread about me was [å¼ŗ] than what is being said of Jin Guanyao.ā
Hereās the definition of å¼ŗ according to MDBG:
Iāve mentioned that elsewhere in a reply breaking down some of the nuances of the Chinese language that get lost in translation, all those definitions are valid in a vacuum even if they seem contradictory.
The context is needed to determine the correct meaning of the term. The rumours about Jin Guangyao are that the discovery that he fornicated with his blood-related sister gave him such a fright that he became impotent. Those about Wei Wuxian are that he abducted a thousand maidens to his den in Burial Mounds and that he defiled them in order to cultivate his demonic skills.
å¼ŗ is used here in the comparison to denote a greater intensity. What theyāre saying about Jin Guangyao is bad and ludicrous enough, what they said about Wei Wuxian in the past was worse and outlandish.
Iād translate it like this:
āWell, as it turns out, what they spread about me was more strongly-worded than what is being said of Jin Guanyao.ā
Hey in the three-rings post you mentioned that in chapter 95, there's hints that Lan Zhan sobered up before the heavy petting. Could you possibly expand on that? Thanks!
Hey there, I wrote a follow-up here based on my interpretation of the contextual clues given during the bath scene =)
*lays on the floor staring at the ceiling* damn. oh damn. maybe in the end after thinking abt this from every possible angle i need to say that from these two the one i ship more is maybeā¦ā¦.
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