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Asmodeus strangling MC was a really unpleasant surprise for me. Seeing new sides of Asmo is interesting, but I donât want that new negative side directed at MC. The amount of anger towards MC was really unwarranted.
Yes, the circumstances are dire, but, to me, MC is 99% innocent in this whole situation, especially with the statue part. And everyone, including the MC themself, needs to stop blaming them.
There was no rational reason that the super dangerous statue that causes misfortune wasnât locked up/secured in some way. And there was no rational reason that Mammon didnât warn MC to avoid this super dangerous statue. So, the statue breaking wasnât in any way, shape, or form MCâs fault.
Why was MC even tasked with cleaning this random warehouse all by themself in the first place?
PrettyBusy does this a lot, putting MC into positions that they really shouldnât, and then punishing MC for it. They did the same thing with the butler event, where MC was, for some inexplicable reason, gambling all alone in Abyssos.
MC is an extremely important figure in Hell. Theyâre also very weak/fragile compared to literally everyone else. Logically, there should be either a King or one of the 72 devils with them at all times. Otherwise, itâd be very easy for any angel or even a wayward devil to kill them, which would be very bad for Hell.
So, PrettyBusy having these solitary side quests for MC makes no sense. I know theyâre doing that to quick-start story plots, but surely they could come up with better scenarios that follow actual logic and donât make the devils seem like they could care less if MC gets murdered.
Now, in regards to MC dealing with Azathoth, what else were they supposed to do?
A huge amount of devils were dead. Mammon was dead. Levi was about to die shortly. And Satan was either like Mammon or Levi. Three out of seven Demon Kings extinguished in a single fight would be catastrophic for Hell.
What would have Asmo preferred for MC to do in this situation? Just move on and let them be dead? Because, in that case, then MC wouldnât be MC.
What MC did was completely in line with their character, because if it wasnât, then the entire story of the game wouldnât exist. We saw in MCâs first scene that theyâre self-sacrificing, and that they donât consider consequences at all if it means saving their loved ones. They didnât hesitate to make a deal with Satan, the infamous devil from the bible, whose deals in popculture usually end very badly for the human. That didnât matter to them, because Satan was offering to save Minhyeok.
Itâs not like MC knew that their deal with Azathoth could potentially collapse the world. They thought that the consequences would be placed solely on themself. So, I canât fault MC at all for what they did to save Satan, Mammon, and Leviathan.
In my opinion, the only thing that MC should have done differently was tell everyone immediately what had transpired in that alternate timeline as soon as they woke up. Or, at the very least, tell everyone what happened when the Kings started turning into cats for seemingly no reason.
TLDR: Asmodeus leave MC alone, theyâre trying their best.
Mammon has always described his feelings for you as falling in love at first sight. Heâs never really gave any reasons for that before, which made it feel a little shallow to me unfortunately.
But Iâm happy to say he does end up elaborating during his Pirate card.
I like this explanation. It makes a lot of sense for him as the Devil King of Greed. He should be able to see what will be valuable to him and what wonât be. So if Mammon looks at someone for the first time and sees that their value is higher than anything else before or after, then of course itâs completely natural that heâd fall in love immediately.
Beel (Bloodshed) evolution date story is just- OmG đ„Čđ
I love whenever PB shows that Beelâs usual unserious attitude is mostly just a defence mechanism against his profound care for his people and his deep sorrow for all that heâs lost.
Itâs great whenever they expand on known facts to add character depth. Funerals arenât festive in Abyssos just because the populace likes parties. Theyâre like that since Beel actively encouraged it because he didnât want his people to be overwhelmed by grief due to his death.
I also really like how much emotional intelligence the MC shows throughout this story.
This whole interaction is just perfect. You can feel it in your bones how special MC is to Beel.
Ahhh Beel.. my heartâŠ
This was a great date story. Lore, angst, and heartfelt affection: *Chefâs Kiss*.
The fact that Gamigin can, for some reason, force people to lactate just by having sex with them is hilarious to me.
Iâm really surprised this wasnât a Beel card concept because this is right up his alley. I kept waiting for him to show up (despite that not being the way L cards work) because I just canât see him letting this opportunity pass him by. Heâd be acting like a rabid bloodhound.
I can see how itâd play out now.
Beel senses a disturbance in the force and must respond:
No one can stop him on his noble quest:
Beel and his clones on their way to get that sweet sweet titty milk:
Gamigin realizing the danger heâs in by inadvertently standing in the way of Beelâs goal:
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He seems to be Shackling type yandere, i.e. he needs to keep (shackle) his Darling to himself, with a Self-Imposing subtype of the Dependency variant.
That is, he wants to take care of his Darling in every aspect with the ultimate goal of making his Darling completely dependent on him and unable to leave.
Compilation of moments that may or may not be important to Minhyeokâs future. With some commentary here and there. And a theory at the end. Lots of spoilers from the Halloween event and the main story, especially Chapter 7. Long post.
A comparison to what Gabriel first says to MC and what he first says to Minhyeok. The last two lines potentially could imply that Gabriel knows Minhyeok in some way.
I find it interesting that Minhyeok doesnât question the crazy âcosplayerâ at all. Also, MC specifically wonders how he knew what was going on. He could have just heard the commotion and is too focused on protecting MC to comment on the weird situation, but I think this interaction is something to be aware of.
So, Minhyeok thought that what happened with Gabriel/MC was a dream. Which was also said in the Halloween event.
But this reinforces that Minhyeok died. He sacrificed his life for MC.
Maybe when Minhyeok died he lost his memories relating to angels and heaven, etc. because of the trauma of dying.
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In the Halloween event, Minhyeok meets the three Seraphim. Minhyeok doesnât show any recognition of them, but theyâre acting a bit oddly towards him.
Michael talks about sorrow, attacks Minhyeok, Leviathan saves him, Michael is about to try again, then stares at Minhyeokâs chest where he was cut by Gabriel, and smiles. He says âNow that I see you, I am no longer in sorrowâ. Then he leaves.
Minhyeok sees Raphael, who starts the meeting by saying, âHey, youâre here. Since youâre here, leave that tasty looking head behindâ.
Raphael stomps towards Minhyeok, rips his shirt open, stares at and then places his ear to Minhyeokâs chest. Raphael listens, sniffs and licks at his chest. Then he bursts out laughing and smacks Minhyeok into a wall hard enough to leave a hole. Raphael stares and then leaves.
Gabriel shows up and immediately slashes Minhyeok with his scythe, but Minhyeok was fine. Gabriel stands in front of Minhyeok and says, âAhh? Arenât youâŠ? Why are you alive? Did I say? That weâve met?â
Minhyeok: âYou! The angel I saw in my dream!? Wait⊠that wasnât a dream!"
Gabriel: âDream? Ahh, you consider it to beâŠâ
Satan attacks Gabriel, who recognizes the situation is now unfavourable to him. He relaxes and looks at Minhyeok with something like a smile. Gabriel says âDid I say? That Iâve never said anything like this before. See you againâ. Then he leaves.
Satan explains Gabrielâs scythe and why Minhyeok didnât die from being cut by it for a second time. The scythe is bound by a rule of God. Anything that it cuts dies. No exceptions.
MC made a contract with Satan in exchange for Minhyeok being brought back to life. Which falls under another rule of God. The first promise must be kept because God liked miracles.
These two rules of God clashed and created a loophole. Since Gabrielâs scythe never needs to cut something more than once to kill it, any cut past one isnât included in the rule of God, so it doesnât result in death.
Itâs rare for the Seraphim to show up in Hell, except for Gabriel, and even more rare for all three of them to come at once. So, the fact that they all show up when Minhyeok's there is notable.
So, the question is do the Seraphim know Minhyeok in some way or are they simply reacting to Gabriel's scythe scar on his chest?
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Minhyeok suddenly collapses in Chapter 7. And I find it very notable that it shows whatâs happening to MC at that moment. They donât usually check back in on MC during the Minhyeok side stories. So, the fact that Minhyeok collapsed at the same time MC is being strangled to death is suspicious to me.
Minhyeok seemingly collapsed for no reason. Thereâs nothing physically wrong with him.
The game specifically makes note that Minhyeok touches the back of his neck for some reason.
Minhyeok calls out to his brother and his brother asks who he is, surprising everyone including himself.
Minhyeok is physically fine, and yet he feels heavy.
Minhyeok touches the back of his neck and feels heavy. This could be connected somehow. Something entered through the back of his neck to make him feel fuller? A different soul? Forgotten memories? Angelic energy?
The crucial thing here is that Minhyeokâs brother doesnât remember/recognize him for a moment. This could be for several different reasons. Like something has so fundamentally changed about Minhyeok that now his own brother doesnât recognize him. Or maybe the magic that made Minseok think of Minhyeok as his brother was disrupted for a moment.
Minhyeok is acting much more subdued than usual.
Minhyeok is still acting odd. Sadly mentioning his want for a family and his wish to have grown up faster.
Minhyeok is acting very out of character. He references growing up again, but he seems negative about it this time, not positive.
Minhyeok has a lot he wants to forget. He never discussed anything like this before chapter 7, which leads me to believe that he regained memories or knowledge when he collapsed that he wishes he didn't.
He talks about Fererere being garbage when it's clear he's really talking about himself. So, he has a lot of guilt/regret/self-loathing.
Minhyeok basically flat-out states that he's actually an angel. How exactly he relates to the angelic faction is left for debate. And then, just as Minhyeok is about to open up about himself, he disappears right in front of Ppyong.
MC and their demon comrades have been looking for the Ark of the Covenant, which holds the Tabot in real life (the Ten Commandments inscribed on a stone tablet), but, in WHB, it holds the 'True Seed of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil'. A cursed relic containing the power of the purest good and most chaotic evil, that turns good into evil, evil into good, life into death and death into life. Only God can handle it.
But when they reach the Ark of the Covenant, it's open and nothing's inside. Eventually, they find a human child that resembles Minhyeok in the room that holds the Ark. This happens at the same time Minhyeok disappears from the human world.
The child part is throwing me off. Minhyeok does talk about growing up, but I really don't know how or why he would turn into a child at the same time the Tree Seed went missing. MC didn't open the Ark, someone else did and maybe they did this somehow. But why? And MC is supposed to be the only one who could open the Ark anyways. The only other two should be Solomon and God, and they're gone. So who opened the Ark? The child Minhyeok somehow? Implying the child is somehow related to God?
Maybe this is not the real Minhyeok, but like some kind of manifestation of MC's desires. Or like maybe it's the manifestation of the Tree Seed itself? And the real Minhyeok just got yoinked back to heaven for some reason at the same time.
At the end of the PG13 trailer, Gabriel seems like he's reuniting with a high ranking angel that looks very similar to Minhyeok. The hair is not a one-to-one match, but it is very close, and a specific tuft of hair on the right side of his head is exactly the same. To me, this has to be Minhyeok in some form.
Here's my Minhyeok theory:
Minhyeok is some way related to angels/God, but he also somehow has a human side. I'm not too concerned about the specifics. The important part is that he knows about angels and demons. For some reason, he's near Solomon's Descendant, who he's supposed to hate, but eventually he falls in love with them, and he disguises himself as Minseok's brother to be close to them as a human.
So, Minhyeok saves MC from Gabriel, but when he dies he loses his memories (and maybe angelic powers), so that's why he doesn't know anything about angels or demons in the main story. Something happens when Minhyeok collapses in Chapter 7 and he regains his memories.
Then, at that moment he disappeared, Minhyeok was split in two, his old angel self that despises Solomon's Descendants and his new human self that loves MC, which looks young because it is young compared to his angel self. And the two selves got sent to their most important places respectively: heaven for Angel!Minhyeok and 'wherever MC is' for Human!Minhyeok. Lots of angst ensues!
I don't expect this theory to be true, other than Minhyeok being related to heaven in some way. But I think this concept could be really interesting.
I'm very much looking forward to Chapter 8 and getting some answers.