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Pro tip: if a Jewish, person, even a "white" Jewish person, calls out antisemitism from people of color or people on the left, do not bring up the racism that non-Ashkenazi Jews face from Ashkenazi Jews. Do not scream about how Trump/white supremacists/conservatives are so much worse. And don't even think about mentioning Israel. If you dislike it when people derail other discussions of issues that marginalized groups face, then don't do the same here.
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A good way to tell people bringing up legitimate issues apart from whataboutism is to look at the context. If Person A, say, makes a list of issues specific to women and then Person B goes "B-but what about men?" instead of making their own list, that's whataboutism. If Person A takes issues that aren't gendered and makes them about women exclusively and/or blames men for them, then Person B is in the right for bringing up men's issues.
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Honestly some of the stuff I'm seeing today is so weird.
'Aaron can't compare his prison experience to Robert's because they're both entirely different situations'
Some people: so you hate Aaron and want him to die
Like ?? It's giving the "so you hate waffles" meme lmao
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I’ma let you finish but #harveyweinstein just pulled off the #greatest #womenshistorymonth commemoration of all time. He the real #mvp. . And now let’s hear the #whataboutisms with #cosby and #rkelly now. . Have fun at #rikers. . #blackonblackbk #deconstructtheconstruct #metoo #timesup #speakup #speakout #hollywood (at Brooklyn, New York) https://www.instagram.com/p/B9m1-38JITL/?igshid=86k4fhav28tn
I'm so tired of whenever someone brings up legitimate criticism of trump people start going well what about Obama why didn't you care when Obama was doing this? Cause I'm 25 I didn't care about politics until his second term when I started giving a crap about what he was doing I'm sorry I didn't start a political revolution when I popped out of the womb.
And let's face it, for those of us who are older, the reason that we're not bringing up Obama because Trump is worse. Much worse.
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Sort of on the subject of "whataboutisms" regarding the gun control protests: There a lot of letters in my local paper's Opinion column using the movement to push for nonsecular schools and abortion restriction. Like I get that they want to push for their beliefs, but doing it at the expense of the dead, through a movement that was NEVER about religion/abortion, is one of the most disrespectful things I've seen in a while. I can send some pictures if you want -- they are truly a sight to behold.
That's disgusting.
(via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0nStM2xBkY)
