#vw4

I had this experience where I was in the studio with Kanye in Mexico, and it was so different than anything I'd done: One day Dave Longstreth is there; the next day Big Sean shows up. Sometimes it wasn't people working, just talking about music. I was, like, "I like this atmosphere. I need to loosen up." So I've been working with this 68-year-old guitarist, Greg Leisz, and this 18-year-old guitarist, Steve Lacy. A bunch of other people have been coming in and out. Now we're moving into the final stage where it's about, "How do you take all that energy and reduce it to the sound of the album?" It's tricky.