So I just finished reading your fic "Hearts like Ours" and can I just say that you have impeccable taste in music. I recognized most of the songs from playlist of my own. It was refreshing especially since I listen to other fic writers choices in music and I'm just like...
What a nice thing to say! Iām a little picky with what songs I post with stories, so I always love hearing that other people actually listen to them! Itās just a tradition to include them at this point.Ā
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Your analysis on Golden Kamuy is so in depth and interesting. Being as such what would be your ideal ending for Golden Kamuy considering everything that's happened so far?
I apologize @violentmaiden and Anonimous reader if Iāve placed your two asks together but as theyāre similar I thought it would work better if I were to reply to you both together. Also I apologize for my lateness in answering.
First of all thank you for enjoying my analysis! Iām really happy to hear that.
To be honest itās pretty hard to predict how things will go in the future.
Iāve found pretty peculiar how the whole cast was basically made to converge on Sapporo where there are convict number 22 (Jack) and 23 (Ueji) but we still donāt know the whereabouts of convict 24.
Normally youāve such a situation at the end of the story, but, unless it turns out that convict 24 got missing for some reason (he got killed, he got eaten by a bear or a fish, whatever) or that heās actually present but in disguise (among friends we joked that Vasily was actually a convict who escaped and managed to get back to Russia... which obviously it's extremely unlikely but still fun to think), we arenāt at the end of the gold hunt yet.
The real problem with the Sapporo situation is that Tsurumi is converging with his men there.
Tsurumi carried with himself in Karafuto 16 men but he might have left some on stand by in Wakkanai. Plus he told Tsukishima and Koito to converge on Sapporo as well and they might bring other men in reinforcement.
Considering Tsurumi has 100 men under himself... well, even if Asirpaās group and Hijikataās group join forces theyāre rather outnumbered as they would only be 13 (with Ogata 14 but I doubt heāll join them).
In two days Jack is expected to strike again and by then I think Tsurumi would surely have the numerical advantage. So Iāll say either the Asirpa/Hijikata group find Jack first or theyāre going to have troubles dealing with him and would do better to scatter and try to get convict number 24... or still hunt for Ueji... unless Ogata got him first.
I expect Ariko to be ordered to kidnap Asirpa... and possibly to steal Hijikataās skin.
For a confrontation between Tsurumiās many men and them I would say the Asirpaās group needs to join forces with the Sofiaās group so as to have an equal number of men... otherwise if they come to a fight I really donāt expect them to win, at best they can escape after making some serious damage to Tsurumiās files and probably receiving damage as well... but it sure seems as if Noda is setting up things for the big climax.
Overall, if weāll get a fight it shouldnāt be one to one as weāre talking of men all used to war. In wars back then there were charges and you didnāt really get an opponent just for you but many would try to attack you and you would try to attack many.
I donāt really look forward to a battle Abashiri style exactly due to this, I would prefer things to involve more strategy than just two huge factions fighting each other... but itās kind of hard to predict how things will go.
We talk of groups but actually thereās plenty of interests at play here so people can change sides very easily.
We have:
- Tsurumi who wants to form a military dictatorship
- Hijikata who wants to form the republic of Ezo
- Kikuta who represents Centralās interest and whoās in an allegiance with Ariko even though Ariko is supposed to serve Tsurumi and be in the Hijikata group
- Asirpa who wants to protect the Ainu interests
- Sugimoto who wants the money for Umeko and who doesnāt want Asirpa to be involved in a war
- Sofia who wants to bring change in Russia with the Ainu gold
- Usami whoās technically loyal to Tsurumi but is kind of an unpredictable oddball
- Koito who wants to make sure Tsurumiās goal is one he can accept
- Tsukishima whoās... in between Koito and Tsurumi and might not have truly picked a side yet
- Tanigaki who might come back for... reasons
- Ogata who has his own goal and isnāt sharing it
- Boutarou who wants his island on which to rule
- Nikaido whoās in this just to kill Sugimoto but in the past was in an allegiance with Ogata
And those are just the people with a strong determination to reach their goal to the point they could do something unpredictable.
Then there are the other guys, all with goals but who I donāt expect to switch sides or do unpredictable things.
Itās a lot because each of them is taking care of his own interests and could end up in conflict with those whoāre actually his allies.
Add 3 missing convicts to the mix and what happens next is pure mystery.
So... even if the close future seems hard to predict, how would the story end?
Well, this is equally hard but my wish is for no one to get the gold.
Well, if I were to be honest I wish for the Ainu to get the gold and their own state (yeah, I vote for Wilkās idea in short), but for how the story is set up I think itās extremely unlikely Noda will let this happen. I think heāll probably go for a story that will end resuming the āhistorical continuityā hence the situation in Hokkaido wonāt change.
No military dictatorship, no republic of Ezo but sadly not even a far eastern federation for minorities... which makes sense as to create a new state by freeing a territory from a domination is hellish hard and requires not only money but a lot of support from other states otherwise even if the newborn state managed to free itself it might end up being swallowed by another state.
So, since the Ainu canāt have back their gold or, if they were to have it back it would probably solely to hide it again so as not to create a completely different future... well, at this point I prefer no one to get it, for the gold to either sink or be buried under a mountain or be blasted away or whatever.
I get the boys have fought hard for it but it wasnāt theirs in the first place and overall I donāt think the theme of the story should be they should get rewarded for trying to get the gold to fix their problems instead than facing them and solving them on their own.
Of course i would love it if they could understand the real gold was the friends they made along the way and everyone could have a happy ending because I love them all and want them happy... but Iām not sure Golden Kamuy will go for such a solution.
Among the things foreshadowed there were Nagakura and Hijikataās death, as they were walking on the wrong side of the survival road (Shiraishi managed to escape, good for him)...
...and therefore for Asirpa, Sugimoto, Ushiyama and Ogata to survive.
If itās true that who kills a tiger has to face a life of misfortune and we can consider ātigersā also whoās named as such, Koito, Tsukishima and Tanigaki are all responsible for Kiroās death (Kiroās name Yulbars means ātigerā)... and itās possible that, if Sugimoto had an involvement in Torajiās death (itās suspected he mercy killed him) the same fate will befall on him as well (Toraji was nicknamed āTora-chanā and ātoraā means ātigerā).
Iād like for Shiraishi to find a goal instead, possibly one related to Kiro, maybe helping Kiroās family, or helping Asirpa to protect the Ainu.
Iād like for Asirpa to find her own way to protect Ainu, not through war but through a more pacifical method and maybe a better use of media. The movie idea wasnāt bad but it was very poorly executed.
Itās difficult to figure what would happen to the rest of the cast because I really would love for them all to be happy... but I fear this wonāt be what Golden Kamuy will end with. Some of them will probably die or end up worse than they started or nothing will change for them and itāll be all for nothing. Or maybe not really nothing as they might have gained something but not what they were hoping for.
Still... itās difficult to say what will happen as really, my wish is for them to be happy so Iām probably not impartial enough to view the possibilities with a cold head and for this I apologize.
Hi there! First off I LOVE your Galra Keith and Altean Lance their so pretty! I was wondering if you read the series "Warmth" by Rahar_Moonfire? Because I swear whenever I read it I think to your Galra Keith and Altean Lance art and imagine it to go along with the story!
Wahhh YES Iāve read that fic even before I started my bodyguard au! Itās a great and you remind me that Iāve only finished reading the first part of the series lolĀ Awww thank you for your fondness for my art and design of them! Iām honoredšš
So another question š ...what do you think would have happened if Ogata never escaped after the whole Karafuto Arc? Would Sugimoto just straight up have killed him? Would they have forced Ogata to tag along with them after he was well enough to move? With him going back to Hijikata (but his motives still unknown) I have to wonder what he would do if he couldn't make it back.
Itās an interesting question!
However itās one thatās really hard to answer because there are too many variants to predict.
Letās start with the easiest variant.
If what the doctor has said and Ogata was really about to die..
...yes, I think Sugimoto would have killed him with his bayonet so that Ogataās death wouldnāt rest on Asirpaās shoulders.
Had the doctor said Ogata would recover and had Ogata not made an attempt to escape... well, things become harder to predict.
Sugimoto made clear he wanted to kill Ogata regardless.
Itās not just what he said when he discovered Ogata and Kiro stole Asirpa...
...or how when Enonoka was kidnapped and he tried to kill her kidnapper itās clear in his mind he was seeing Enonoka as Asirpa and the guy as Ogata...
...or how he said he hopes Ogataās motive for doing what he does is greed so he wonāt hesitate when killing him...
...we also have the scene, after Ogataās escape, in which he expresses this wish.
This is relevant because it would be much more advantagious for Sugimoto if Ogata were to never show up again yet he hopes he will so he can kill him. Sugimoto is nursing a grudge toward Ogata thatās starting to look as big as the one Nikaidou nurses for him.
However if Ogata has remained captive in their hands Sugimoto couldnāt just go and stab him or he would have done it on the ice field.
Itās clear he doesnāt want Asirpa to know about his intentions.
In chap 200 Asirpa gets worried when she thinks Sugimoto will try to shoot Ogata and Sugimoto says heāll aim for the horse but Sugimotoās shoots are way too high for someone whoās aiming at the horse and while Sugimotoās aim isnāt good, it isnāt so bad the bullets would all fly that high, especially considering Sugimoto didnāt even try to lower his aim a bit so as not to risk to hit Ogata but focus on hitting the horse.
In fact we can see Ogata is bent over the horse as he escapes, and the first shoot flies around his shoulderās heigh. He then straighten up and spreads his arms and one shoot flies below his right arm (therefore itās probably at the same height of when he was huched over the horse) while the other flies ABOVE OGATAāS ARM.
If anything Sugimoto has raised his aim, not lowered it, probably hoping to hit Ogataās head.
So overall the three shoots are all way too high to be aimed at the horse and show no sign of Sugimoto lowering his aim.
This makes clear he was aiming at Ogata, hoping to hit him and then to tell Asirpa he shoot him by mistake.
Asirpa might not be the only thing thatās stopping Sugimoto from killing Ogata.
As Sugimoto is cooperating with Tsurumi he might be under the impression Tsurumi wants Ogata alive to interrogate him, put him under trial for deserting and then murder him.
Sugimoto is not under a big urge to be Ogataās murderer after all, heās fine if itās Vasily who kills him as long as Ogata is dead.
So, back to the story, if Ogata werenāt to die due to his wound, nor were to try to escape and therefore Sugimoto werenāt to have chances to discreetly murder him, Sugimoto would probably be forced to hold back his murdering wish, unless he were to try and create the circumstances himself.
Tanigaki despises Ogata and Shiraishi is not really happy with what Ogata has done in Abashiri but I donāt know if they would go so far as too cooperate with Sugimoto to create a chance to kill Ogata.
Now... Koito and Tsukishima.
Koito likely wouldnāt mind having Ogata killed but heās clearly under the impression theyāve to bring him back or he would have stomped his foot down, refused to give him any sort of medical aid and killed him on the ice field or attempt to.
Instead he just let Sugimoto take Ogata away and the Nivkh to try to cure him first, and to let the doctor check on him later (albeith he wasnāt really that willing on that last part but more because he thought it was an unnecessary risk than anything else).
In short Koito is under the impression theyāve to keep Ogata alive and take him to Tsurumi to squeeze info out of him... however we donāt really know if this is the plan.
Tsukishima might be under orders to secretly blow Ogataās brains out...
...because Tsurumi might think Ogata wouldnāt talk no matter the torture and he might do more harm than good.
In short itās better to kill him off and be done with him so Tsukishima might have been willing to help Sugimoto to stage Ogataās murder.
But letās assume they were meant to bring him back to Tsurumi.
Tsurumi hadnāt been chasing Ogata as much as Ogata feared he would. Maybe thatās because Tsurumi has an ace to use against Ogata hidden in his sleeve.
In this case then yes, they would have forced Ogata to come back with them, likely keeping him tied and under surveillance so Ogata would have to attempt to escape another time to avoid being handed to Tsurumi and tortured and killed... or, in case Ogata suspects Tsurumi has means to blackmail him into obedience, to just do so.
However youāve to add into the mix Vasily, who this time would attack them to have a rematch with Ogata with Ogata being there.
Itās highly unlikely they would give Ogata a rifle as Ogata would be too dangerous with one but Vasily also wouldnāt let go chasing them until he has his fight with Ogata.
I like to think Vasily wouldnāt content himself with just killing a tied man so that he would be number one again... but this might be just me.
In short Vasily might end up creating the setting in which Ogata could escape... or the situation would force them to either kill Vasily or Ogata in order to stop Vasily from chasing them trying to force Ogata to fight him.
Thereās another thing to consider, that Ogata might know info that would either be very valuable to the point he could force them into doing something... or would create discord in the group and use them... but it would be a very difficult route for him as heās mutually distrusted.
It worked with Koito merely because Ogata gave him hints but didnāt really tell him much, forcing Koito to think things for himself so that in the end itās Koitoās reasoning what Koitoās defend, not Ogataās words.
So... overall I think that if Tsurumi hadnāt issued an order to kill Ogata what they should officially do is try to bring him back with them... and what Ogata should try to do is to escape from them... whcih could however provide them with a chance to try and kill him.
Long story short, I think likely Ogata not escaping right after the doctor fixed his wound would have only meant he would need to do it later.
Ultimately probably Noda handled the mess the best way he could.
He let Ogata escape pretty early on so that the group wouldnāt have to worry about bringing him back or trying to kill him, letting the focus move again on just Sugimoto and Asirpa on one side and Tsukishima and Koito on the other... until their disfunctional group crashes as Asirpa refuses to let herself be handed to Tsurumi.
At least... thatās what I think.
As Iām not Noda I canāt really know what would be of Ogata had he not escaped, just make speculations.
I have 2 more questions for the resident Golden Kamuy expert! Do you think Asirpa is absolutely needed to solve the code? I know its suppose to be a code from her father but its not like Hijikata or the others are dumb. Is there a chance they can solve it? 2nd question, say they never find the last skin. Do you think they need it or can they solve it from having all the others?
Questions are always welcomed!
1) Do you think Asirpa is absolutely needed to solve the code? I know its suppose to be a code from her father but its not like Hijikata or the others are dumb. Is there a chance they can solve it?
I think what should be needed is the info Asirpa hold (the key to the code being her fatherās Ainu name).
As weāre still lacking info I donāt know if Asirpa might hold other memories/knowledge/whatever thatās exclusive to her and needed to have to solve the code.
So far I view the wordĀ āOrkew Oskoniā as the equivalent of a password or of a pin of 8 characters.
We donāt know exactly how it should be used, if it points to a specific skin, to 8 specific sins to the order in which the 24 skins have to be placed but still, this would mean that solving the code without the key Asirpa hold is wouldnāt be just a matter of intelligence, but also of finding the right combination along an amazing amount of combinations.
If Wilk played his cards well, considering they donāt have a pc in which to input the data and that can quickly calculate all the possibilities, figuring out the right combination would require from them either amazing luck or a lifetime.
Now... Tsurumi and Hijikata are highly intelligent but theyāve not te slightest idea of what theĀ āpasswordā could be.
However Ogata is in a slightly different position as he knows Asirpa connected the dots when she heard the story behind her fatherāsĀ name, so he is the only one who has a info, that the password is connected to the nameĀ āWilkā.
Said this he might figure out that the password is actually in Ainu and getĀ āHorkewā... but I donāt think he has any means to know the second part of the password isĀ āOskoniā as there were tons of words that Asirpaās mom could have picked and we donāt evenknow if Ogata has enough Ainu knowledge (or knows someone with enough Ainu knowledge) that can help him fish up candidates for the second word.
As we donāt really know how this ākeywordā has to be used itās hard to say if just having half of it can lead Ogata to figure out the solution to the code.
2) Say they never find the last skin. Do you think they need it or can they solve it from having all the others?
I do expect the code will be solved.
This means either the last skin will be found or theyāll manage to finish solving it without it (for example because the info on it were unnecessary or by using the info about where the gold was previously hidden).
We doāt really know how theĀ ākeywordā has to be used and what itās meant to point out.
Asirpa speculated each skin has at least a kanji that can be read as one of the syllabes of her fatherās name.
A Japanese fan has studied all the skins currently found and had found out some of them actually have more than 1 kanji that can be read as such.
I have my own personal theory about how theĀ ākeywordā is meant to point out that Hijikataās skin is actually the only skin needed and the others are just red herrings... but a previous popular theory was that theĀ ākeywordā is meant to point out only 8 skins are needed.
Alternatively the ākeywordā can point out in which order the skins need to be placed or it can point out to the parts of the skins you need to use (each tattooed skin can be cut in 8 parts).
So... well, as long as we donāt now how theĀ ākeywordā needs to be used itās hard to predict how needed is the 24th skin.
Still, I expect for the code to be solved because it would feel a bit like a waste if Noda had created a riddle he didnāt mean to solve. Anyway weāll see.
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Can I just say that watching your predictions come true in recent chapters is oddly satisfying? Like dang man you were spot on for a lot of them.
*blush*
Thank you for reading my predictions and enjoying when they come true!
I try my best to guess what Noda will do, so I wonāt deny Iām also happy when I guess it right and Iām happy to know thereās someone else thatās happy about it!
This is such a well planned story, I love to analyze it but Noda is also a master at surprising us so Iām never sure I guessed right until he reveals it. Iām actually really curious to see how things will advance further.
Thank you for the much in depth reply and no worries about the grouping of asks! To be honest I also wanted your opinion because I'm writing a fanfic and it takes place after the main story. I was having trouble thinking of a ending since its still unclear and everyone has their own goals. But I was super happy to see what you said lined up with what I was toying with. I thought to that i didn't want anyone to get the gold or at least not the massive amount everyone thinks there is. I was thinking that perhaps someone found it before and most if not all is gone. It would be a sort of bittersweet but best ending and good Segway for my fanfic. If it's alright with you can I use this ask as a sort of organization/help for my fanfic? Credit will be given of course but if you don't want that I completely understand.Ā
Of course you can use my answer to the ask, Iām glad I was of some help!
In regard to everyoneās goal I think at this point in the story everyone is still allowed to be creative in regard to what wasnāt canonically stated. I mean, thereās plnety of theories but thereās also plenty of things that arenāt stated in canon yet, with some theories getting disproved by canon itself as soon as itās revealed... or changed because Noda makes changes in the volumes so...
However in regard to the gold being a massive amount weāve a canon confirmation that it was actually as massive as the cast think it is.
So we know it was a lot.
The old Ainu guy Boutarou is talking about is this one.
...and the āall those years agoā are actually less than 10 years.
Noda originally have Asirpa say the Nopperabou incident in which Asirpaās father died was 5 years before the series start... but by the time they reach Abashiri, in short around 7 months afterward we learn Wilk was in jail by 7 years... which probably means Noda retconned thedate in which the Nopperabou incident took place. almost a year has gone by so it was around 8 years before.
Why is this relevant?
The gold was supposedly still whole when the Nopperabou incident took place.
Afterward Tsurumi was clearly keeping an eye on Hokkaido, if someone had found the gold and had tried to convert it in money Tsurumi would have noticed. We see how the news of Heita managing to make 50 yens managed to spread fast.
Someone converting such a huge amount of gold as the one Boutarou spoke of would end up on all the national newspapers. Even if he were to turn to the Yakuza in order to convert it secretly, unless he were a well guarded guy, they would probably follow him, find where he keeps the gold and kill him to steal it... but again, even if they had better ways to be discreet, they wouldnāt be able to hide getting so rich so fast.
Tsurumi would have figured out.
Thereās also to say that with so many people searching for the Ainu gold someone stumbling on it by mistake would be hilarious but likely unlikely as Wilk probably hid it well.
In a way that huge amount of gold is untouchable exactly because itās too huge to go unnoticed.
For how I see it the only chances for the gold to ādisappearā are:
- tossing it in the Shikotsu volcano. Iām not sure if it was possible but the vulcano was active, its last eruption back then was dated 1894 and the following is dated 1909. So, kind of like in Lord of the Ring ātheir preciousā ends up melted away.
- tossing it in lake Shikotsu which is really deep. Boutarou managed to reach Wilkās boat which capsized but if the boat had actually sunk deeper probably not even Boutarou would have managed to reach it.
- actually, as itās gold dust they might even toss it in the water. Gold panners would probably notice how a river all of sudden became extremely filled with gold but if they toss it in the sea it might disperse more easily.
- let it fall into some ground fracture so extremely deep it just canāt be recovered.
- bury it under a mountain. As in hide it in a deep cave and then cause the cave to completely crumble so that if one really wants to find the gold, not only he has to start digging a new LƦrdal Tunnel but he also has to make sure he knows where to dig or heāll turn the mountain into a gruyĆØre cheese before tracking it down.
- hiding it in an even better place.
- I genuinely doubt they can find enough aqua regia to dissolve it all so they can hide it in bottles and then pour it into the sea but it would be surely an intriguing solution.
- Kiro would suggest using explosive but apparently to destroy gold you need to cause a nuclear reaction so... well, I donāt recommend it.
- melting it and turning it into something else, then covering it with a patina of cheap metal and sell it as something thatās not made of gold. Though I think it would take a lifetime so this too is probably a project that wouldnāt work.
Of course many of the above suggestions would require someone to actively go and try to destroy the gold... which wouldnāt be so weird since the Ainu believed it to be cursed.
So yes, itās possible for them to find the place in which Wilk hid it only to find a note saying:
āIāve disposed of the cursed gold so it wonāt hurt people anymore.
Go back to your life instead than keep on chasing it.
Best regards,
a well meaning person.ā
Still, itās up to you to decide what to do with your story. Donāt let your creativity be stopped by this sort of details and if you feel you can make a better story by bypassing canon, just do it.
I know I know, I'm the person with a thousand questions. This one is a little more personal though, I hope I don't offend! I was just wondering if you spoke Japanese? When you go over chapters and what the characters are saying you always do such a good job of explaining and seem to have a deeper knowledge of the language. So I thought perhaps you did speak Japanese?
Questions are welcome!
I wish I could say I can speak Japanese but no, I donāt.
I just research a lot about the words used in the sentences (sometimes this includes checking for past usages, wordplays or the meaning of all the kanji used to write them) and the grammar involved... and, of course I listen/ask/bother a lot PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK JAPANESEĀ to get even more detailed explanations (by the way thank you to you all who put up with my nagging).
Ultimately, after all this researching I ended up learning something but itās definitely not enough to say I can speak Japanese.