#venti lore

venti was a part of the original thousand winds and escaped when istaroth formed the ad oblivione, which is why that note in the thousand winds temple/nameless island is a thing (ill get the actual sources later, just getting thoughts out 😭) and also why he’s considered the prodigal son

reason i wrote this all is bc i was doing ‘research’ (doing my once in a blue moon scroll on twitter and looking at theories) and later saw this poem abt the brain organoids on tiktok and and ☹️

"fly fly away, like a bird in the sky"' have nothing on this one

"see the world on my behalf"

he sure is, with your appearence and technically your eyes

"to the heavens may you fly"

Just how long has Venti slept over the past 2500~ years? In the Manga we see him waking up, and enough time has passed that the politics of Mondstadt are completely different. That period was only 1000 years ago, and then the next timeline we have is 500 years later, when he wakes up AGAIN. Was he really asleep, and how long was he? 

Only after the cataclysm do we seem to have confirmation on WHY he would sleep--to recover from his actions 500 years ago. And he slept another 500 years after that. It seems he’s barely been awake at all since Venessa’s time. 

In the time before 1000 years ago, we know he visited other archons a lot. Did he need to sleep during that time period at all? Did his sleeping state change over time so that he can barely stay awake now? 

Why is he sleeping in the first place? Are we going to find out more about this? Like, does he actually NEED to sleep? Is he truly that weak? What caused him to go back to sleep after Venessa, before the cataclysm? 

Venti’s proclivity to sleep centuries away... It’s deeply fascinating to me. We don’t seem to have any information on other archons having to do it, either. So why is Venti weird? 

sharing because why not; mostly Khaenri'ahn stuff and a lot of Pierro

-why did the unnamed red-haired man in venti's quest cutscene turn on Venti sometime after Decaribian's fall? Is the red-haired man or Ragnvindr during the rebellion of Vennessa his descendant?

-who is Childe's master aka Skirk? Is she potentially of Khaenri'ahn descent or even a Royal Guard? Based on Childe's description of how strong she is, (it is stated she could literally beat him with one hand) I hope she becomes playable one day (plus points if she'll have purple eyes or white hair).

-who the fck is diluc's mom and why is she not named/ mentioned in any of the lore concerning diluc; are his parents divorced/ annulled? even his dad never talked about her.

-is Pierro and Kaeya somewhat blood-related? If so, is that how crps get a delusion?

-did he get that from taking in his son/grandson/nephew knowing the boy he's taking under his wing would betray him and his nation sometime in the future? Does Pierro have connections (as a fatui harbinger) to Crps beforehand?

-Did crps work for him and was high in the ranks to earn such recognition from the most powerful Harbinger to the point he was used him either as a pawn/ puppet to his schemes? Did he also warn Crps he'll die and he just accepted that because it was part of their agreement?

-was the underground organization Diluc potentially had people of Khaenri'ahn descent? stated in character story 4 that "The network was made up of volunteers, and many of its members had willingly given up their prior positions and reputations to join. Some had even abandoned their names"

-could these mean those of high-ranking guards/ royalties of the past like in Khaenri'ah used this as an opportunity to pursue their own goals and ideas in secrecy considering this is confirmed to be a third party and simply observes the events unfold on two sides of a spectrum? It is also underground, and KHAENRI'AH WAS AN UNDERGROUND NATION. (does dain know about the existence of this place??)

[Edit 13/04/2025: THIS IS OLD AND MESSY. Instead, please check my updated theory, it really goes in-depth and is organized and without inconsistencies. I would have posted it on reddit, but it exceeded the character limit >.< So you can check it on tumblr and twitter]

Not so crack theory: Venti is Phanes and is the androgynous being born of the alchemical marriage between the Primordial One and Istaroth, before she was betrayed by the Sinners

(I should really go to sleep)

Also yes, I also think Istaroth has the ability to create alt looms of fate through those seeds she gives away, those basically grow into trees that are databases not controlled by Celestia

And I am using this lore in my old mondstadt fic, Nameless (actually soon to turn into trilogy, since vol 2 is about venti rewinding time and vol 3 is present time story and I took so long to plan all the lore with all the canon crumbs and theories we had...)

Here is extra stuff I claimed in my fic and repeat in the notes of chapter 14, that basically got confirmed in some of the next videos:

Teyvat is theoretically 2 worlds, the version we know and the mirror world. Not sure if the mirror world is the abyss but I chose to go with that for the fic. But it’s likely, and we can even see similar world structures in Honkai Star Rail, especially in Penacony, where the world there is literally mirrored and a dream too.

Cycle: People die » are absorbed by the roots » are supposed to travel to the top of the world tree (inverted, so top is in abyss) to become Irminsul fruit / stars » said stars form constellations that determine people's fate, or more accurately, since they are all in a dream, are data that allows the tree to predict their fates » it’s because people exist as stars that their fates and presence can be summoned in the form of shooting stars

Dainsleif confirmed that the leylines can be woven to determine Fate / have their records changed. The Loom used to weave them is a Symphony, or in other words, Remus’ Symphony of Fate is very similar or the same thing as the Loom of Fate. Add to that some Penacony’s parallels, and you can infer that the Symphony is controlled in the floating palace , that is actually a Grande Theater, by the Sun(day) (potentially Phanes), and it’s reflected by the moons (Aria, Sonnet and Canon, so the musical associations are fitting). Considering that the 3 moon sisters are also probably the mythological Moirai who weave Fate, yeah, that tracks.

I made up the part about the seeds given by Istaroth being used to create an alternate database that can contradict the information on Irminsul, but who knows, maybe I got it right. I mean, just recently I saw people associate her with Khaenri’ahs soldiers because they used the 8 pointed Ishtar star in their uniforms, so with her, anything is possible. Venti got a badass mom.

Some videos I suggest that basically confirmed some of the ideas I am going for (and that explain several of the reasons I say what I say):, from most recent and relevant to oldest and not so relevant