aprilwitching replied to your post â(2/2) I do think some of the social justice discussions occasionally...â
i really think, a lot of the time, it would be better if people would just say "i dont want to do that". i mean, the spoons bit is useful if you really would like to, but really cant, or might be able and willing to *later* but cant *right now*.  but in internet discussions a lot of the time its, like, âi dont have the spoons to answer this questionâ or w/e. butâŠwell, no one has to answer any questions they dont want to answer, and no one has to participate  in an online conversation that they find upsetting! doesnt/shouldnt matter if its ânow iâll be grumpy all dayâ upsetting or ânow i want to kill myselfâ upsetting. thats not useful to anybody, so they shouldnt, and no one else should get up in their business about it. framing participation in unpleasant/upsetting conversations online as, like, this *obligation* that people have to be seriously impaired or emotional unstable to legitimately âget out ofâ is fucked in a lot of ways. i think it leads to a lot of meanness, and a lot ofâŠpeople maybe perpetuating some of their own problems, yeah. in part bc theres no option in the subculture where you can avoid discussions that bug you unless you deem it really importantâ it has to be a trigger thats beyond your control. which i suspect leads to kind of amping up feelings of fear or disgust in response to things, for some people.
Oh man, I agree with this completely, and Iâve actually been meaning to write a post about this for a really long time. But you pretty much summed up everything I was going to say.
Like, when we express a desire/preference, we need to choose between expressing it as a want and expressing it as a need. And Tumblr culture seems to incentivize people to express their wants as needs.
I mean, there are lots of ordinary situations where we express wants as needs, just based on the norms of polite conversation. If someone says âHey, want to get dinner tonight?â, one might respond with âSorry, I need to get work doneâ instead of âNo, sorry, I donât feel like hanging out with you todayâ. And thatâs just because rejection is unpleasant, and we tend to avoid doing it overtly. So itâs much more polite to say âI canât hang outâ than âI donât want toâ.
But, like you say, Tumblr definitely has this norm where needs always trump wants, and people have a moral obligation to deal with each otherâs needs. Like, I remember some posts that were going around after Ferguson (or some similar event), and their goal was to raise awareness of racial injustice. They had messages like âreblog this post if you believe that black lives matterâ and âif you are not outraged right now, then you donât care about black peopleâ. Basically, they were trying to rally people to sadness and anger over police brutality.
And my response was, âNope, sorry, Iâm too busy to get involved with this right now. I have a job, and other causes that I care even more about. We all have limited time in life, and so we have to choose our battles, and devote ourselves to the things we care about instead of being pulled off-course by every new tragedy.â Or, more simplistically, I could say, âI donât want to read about this stuff, because it will just make me really sad without helping anyone, and itâs not a good use of my time.â
But any time someone said this, Tumblr culture would respond, âYou donât want to read about this stuff because it will make you sad? Well, check your privilege, because the people who are experiencing racial violence canât just walk away from it the way youâre doing. Why should you enjoy yourself and be happy when other people are suffering? They could use your help. If you are a good and moral person, then you will stop what you are doing and focus on this cause.â
Basically, it seems like on Tumblr, the needs of the more marginalized always trump the needs of the less marginalized. And the only way to get out of the exorbitant moral obligations is to invent some kind of marginalization for yourself, to invent some need that gives you an excuse to stop engaging with this stuff. Needs like âIâm triggered by these posts and itâs unsafe for me to read themâ.
And like you say, this incentives people to become more and more upset by things, in order for their needs to be strong enough to matter. Which is basically turning a lot of people into utility monsters. I feel like this happened to me for a while -- I would only be worthy of sympathy and receiving help if I was suffering badly enough, so I subconsciously modified myself to suffer more, so that I could get the help and moral absolution that I sought.
Anyway, I agree with you that the solution to this problem is... to respect peopleâs wants, even when they are not needs.
Iâm not sure why I wrote all this, because I basically said the exact same thing you did, except you said it more concisely. But, uh, I already wrote it, so, uh, oh well.

















