#truscum

oh absolutely its very much an aspect of how people view trans women and femmes on a societal level that people are always looking for trans women and femmes its Okay To Hate and many do it in a very direct way implying that afab transfems dont Get It because of their agab and then go on to say some truly vile stuff that implies that ones lived experiences are inherent to their sex which is unironically trans exclusive (sex essentialist) radical feminism and plays very directly into gendered socialization bs and i think similarly there are many multigender transfems who also face very direct transmisogyny related to their appearance or whatnot gatekeeping the term due to features that many amab transfems literally also have

i also think and this is maybe a bit of a hot take that the dividing lines between what is transmisogyny exorsexism and transandrophobia are ultimately fairly thin and broadly overlapping like for instance a lot of transmisogyny targets trans women based on the assumptions that their assumed sex brings which is misandry and then a lot of transandrophobia is pretty blatant undisguised misogyny based on their assumed sex as is a lot of exorsexism although if youre perceived as having been assigned male at birth you often get a lot of misandry i think terms like transfeminized (the experience of being temporarily treated negatively like how society treats trans women) is useful in some contexts like that but then there are also contexts where the exorsexism people perceived to have been amab experience often has an added layer like you hear people say awful things about "they/thems with a neckbeard" that is both uniquely an aspect of exorsexism but also could be argued to be either transandrophobia or transmisogyny because realistically it could accurately be described as all three

and then there are also many cases where transandrophobia comes with a side of transmisogyny like the idea that trans men shouldnt be trusted around trans women or even that trans women arent safe around trans men because of their gender theres a very gender essentialist form of transandrophobia at play ofc painting trans men as inherently aggressive and dangerous because of their gender as men but then also a secret side of transmisogyny that implies that trans women are frail and innocent naive creatures incapable of protecting themselves

trans people arent immune to being transphobic trans women arent immune to be transmisogynists its very easy for people to hate people that are not themselves that do not have their exact experiences and its often a sign they have not deconstructed the transphobia engrained in them by the cultural hegemony and likely experience a fair amount of internalized transphobia and its even easier for people to hate others when the other person has experiences that are alien to them

I’ve seen the claim a few separate times now, and each time the only support that this claim has behind it is the “logic” that:

1. Truscum were a group of trans people with bad ideology

2. Truscum were almost entirely trans men (citation needed, even though I’m just going to take it as true for the rest of the post)

Who else (to the people making this comparison) are a group of almost entirely trans men with bad ideology? Transandrobros!

Which is… an interesting way to try to make a connection. Because if we look at what the ideology actually is, the fact that it’s just “bad” ideology, or ideology a particular person doesn’t agree with doesn’t exactly marry these two concepts together.

If anything, the people arguing against the idea of transandrophobia employ more of the tactics and follow more of the ideology traced out by truscum.

Truscum ideology was about defining who is trans by way of, basically, if they’re trying hard enough to become a stealthing trans person. If you weren’t trying to pass as a cis looking person of the opposite binary gender as to what you were assigned, then you weren’t really trans by this ideology. Nonbinary? By truscum ideology, that’s just a fake identity made up by cis people who want to feel special.

Where, exactly, does this mesh at all with what people are taking about when we talk about transandrophobia?

In my experience, as a nonbinary transmasc, who in arguing about transandrophobia existing has used my own experiences as counterpoints and counterexamples to people’s assertion that there’s male privilege given to all trans people who were AFAB…

I’ve been called a theyfab (a slur popularized by truscum)

I’ve been called a trender (truscum term)

I’ve been told I’m obviously not trying hard enough to pass (the definition of truscum ideology)

I’ve had my name mocked for being ambiguous instead of masculine (seeing the trend here yet?)

If you don't support pre everything transfem butches you don't support trans people.

If you don't support pre everything transmasc femboys you don't support trans people.