#tomasik

Would the discovery that unimaginable suffering is woven into the fabric of the universe really not faze you?

I mean, if by “suffering” you mean something that I care about, like actual people being in pain, then it would bother me quite a lot.

My problem with the suffering-in-physics argument is that it expands the definition of “suffering” enough that it covers a lot of things I don’t care about.  It really is a form of Scott’s [Worst Argument in the World](http://squid314.livejournal.com/323694.html?nojs=1): “People being in pain is bad; we call that “suffering”; electron repulsion has some traits in common with people being in pain, so we can also call that “suffering”; therefore, since people being in pain is bad, electron repulsion is also bad.”

Though I disagree with several aspects of his post, I think @fatpinocchio calls that one right here.

We have moral intuitions where some things tug at our heartstrings more, and also the intuition that cuteness shouldn’t affect people’s worth.  And we reconcile those in some way and often it involves subjugating the first intuition to the second.

There’s always a little bit of this sort of adjustment going on.  If we discover that two things we believe or value are in tension, we have to resolve that somehow.  We can abandon a value; we can restrict its scope; we can impose a balancing test; we can rationalize how they aren’t actually in conflict (and sometimes be correct).  But this process is continuous.

But you always want to be checking this process and make sure it hasn’t exploded so much that it’s abandoned the core inputs you started with.  And a lot of people who get very invested in ethical consistency lose that step altogether.

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